Hawaii Five-0 Review: Shelburne, Revealed! Comments (Page 10)
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Zia Rank: Regular Character
January 26th, 2012 11:39 AM
@Zeo......I don't know how many times I and others have said that it is nothing personal against Lauren German. We agree that the character is flawed which is not all her fault, they introduced her wrong, made it look like she was taking over, and 3 members of the team got very little screen time due to her presence in the first 7-8 episodes. That is why people became angry. Not necessarily at Lauren, but at the character. However, she did not play this person well, she was very stiff and could not show empathy for at least 11 episodes. This may be due to the fact that the writers kept changing who she should be and she was not sure how to play the part.
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jschoi
January 26th, 2012 11:37 AM
@zeo...I've said this before and I'll say it one more time, I don't hate Lori or Lauren German. I don't hate anyone. I don't like Lauren German on this show. She maybe be a wonderful person and very good actress, I don't know, I had never heard of her before H50. So please do not accuse me of hating her.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
January 26th, 2012 11:25 AM
I watched the first season's 1.3 episode. At the end when they are watching Steve's highschool football games, Danny asks why is a quarterback wearing number 50. Steve says "its not 50 its 5-0, my dad called the family that because we were not native hawaiians and he wanted us to feel like we belonged, so 5-0 for the 50th state". Kono said she liked that, and that's what they named the task force.
zeo
January 26th, 2012 11:25 AM
@jschoi- I've done some research about the actress Lauren German and she has a good name or at least had before h5o. This means that she can perform just fine but the writers must improve her character, make her feel comfortable with her role. If the writers improve Lori by giving her a real purpose I definitely prefer Lori staying. The girl is beautiful, I like her physical appearance and if the writers care more about Lori I hope she stays. Just give her something to do, something that is more suitable to her. Even if you disagree, the person Lauren must be respected and not confused with the fictional character.
zeo
January 26th, 2012 11:24 AM
@jschoi- it's not just about money. Lauren German is also human, and this war in my opinion is too much. She is just doing her job. We can like or dislike her character but many believe me included that it has become hate. Whats worse, the hate isn't just for the fictional Lori. Personally I sympathize this girl. This war against the real person is wrong and ugly. Of course the fictional character has flaws and should have been a babysitter. It has no purpose the way it is presented now and needs some change in order to continue. We shouldn't attack the real person so hard though. It's just a show and it's not only her fault. I've read that Lauren is a shy and funny person, she isn't empty, boring. Why hating her?
jschoi
January 26th, 2012 9:50 AM
I'm tired of people feeling sorry for Lauren German. If one cannot take criticism they should not be in show business, sports or politics it goes with the territory. A few days ago some made reference the high unemployment rate and LG being out of a job, ridiculous. I don't know LGs salary for H50 but GP makes 60000 per ep, so if LGs is close to that and she has a movie out this year, I would really be happy with that and most Americans and Canadians would have to work years to make what LG or any of them make in a year. I'm not feeling sorry LG or any of them.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
January 26th, 2012 9:07 AM
@Jeffrey... We were just talking about the promo and what it could mean. Those of us who dont see a use for lori are not responsible for the promo but you do have to admit it is very telling that she is not in it. I dont feel for her cause it is the job and she was not signed on as permanent. I personally will be very happy if she is gone soon but that is no secret. And as others have said 5-0 does not mean 5 team members. To me she has been nothing but a fifth wheel, not necessary and can mess with the vehicle.
@Jeffrey Sean Keith... We don't know what is gonna happen (I confess I will cheer from joy when she leave's) but not being in the promo is not a good signal for the Lori character and like Zia said the reason they call it Five-O is because it was Steve back number when he played football! so there is no need for a 5th team member at all.
Think Lauren German feels fine she knew from the beginning she would stay in the long run she sign. for 12 episode last year she extended it to four more so that make 16 episodes in this season so nothing to feel bad about!
azziria
January 26th, 2012 4:23 AM
We can't know what the original plans for Lori were. It's possible that she was always intended as a red shirt - the way to hurt Steve is through his team, and they obviously couldn't kill off one of the main four, so it's believable that they would introduce a new member, get the fans to buy in to her, and then have Wo Fat harm/kill her to get at Steve. If so then they probably wouldn't go to the expense of altering the main credit sequence for a character who wasn't going to last (originally) beyond 2.13.
Equally, it's possible that they intended her to be permanent but that, after Jenna, they wanted to try her out first. In which case they wouldn't go to the expense of adding her to the main credits until they'd assessed viewer reaction.
So now we wait - is she going, or will there be a character relaunch now that Joe is gone? Surely it has to be one or the other, because at the moment, with her character cut back, it's a waste of CBS's money and Lauren's time.
azziria
January 26th, 2012 4:09 AM
@Jeffrey: We know nothing for sure, everything is just guesswork at this point.
While I would be very happy to see Lori go, I personally won't be crowing if she does. I'm very saddened by the way this whole thing has played out. They introduced her character badly, with all the press stuff about love interest and her being a 'female McGarrett' meaning she started off at a big disadvantage. Lauren herself said at SOTB that she knew she had a big mountain to climb. Then the character was poorly written, and once it became clear she was unpopular they cut her role back so much that I can't see that any actress would have had much luck with it.
Add that the unpleasantness this has caused amongst the fans, and the whole thing has been a sad and sorry affair for everyone concerned. So if she goes I'll be relieved but not rejoicing.
HFO12
January 26th, 2012 3:21 AM
@Jeffery, maybe cos P Lenkov told her at the beginning that she wasnt permanent, or that theyre hesistant to to add such a disliked character. Personally i dont mind Lori as long as shes in the background and working with either danny or Kono, but shes useless in my opinion.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 8:06 PM
@Jeffrey......none of us knows for sure whether Lori is staying or going, and the H50 people are not going to say until we actually see it happen, if it does.
Also, Hawaii 5-0 has nothing to do with the number of people on the team, they explained this in the first season, that it was something senior McG made up to make the non-Hawaiian natives, (Steve and Mary), not feel so bad, and also that's why Steve wore number 50 on his football Jersey.
Kono was the one who suggested that they call the team 5-0.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 8:05 PM
This is a question off of Mega Buzz;TV Guide, I thought you might be interested for those of you who were wondering why Max's name was not Asian.........
Got any intel on Hawaii Five-0? — Kerry
ADAM: What's in a name? Masi Oka's medical examiner Max Bergman is about to find out. "You're going to find out why he was orphaned," executive producer Peter Lenkov teases. "You would never think Masi would be named Max Bergman. So, you're going to find out why and that whole backstory is a very emotional journey."
Jeffrey Sean Keith
January 25th, 2012 7:04 PM
Ok I have been sitting back reading these comments about that fact that Lori is not in the four rasons promo, I admit it does not look good for us Lori fans! I think it is not right, it is not fair if they brought her on she should be part of the team I mean she has been on this long she should be included and she should be in the opening credits I mean I can't imagine how Lauren German feels, I mean it is Hawaii Five-o not Hawaii Four-o! She should be part of the team! I know some of you must feel very happy!
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 2:47 PM
@jschoi - I don't think so. According to Spoiler tv: "Apolo Ohno’s fans have been lobbying Hawaii Five-0 executive producer Peter Lenkov for months in hopes of landing the Olympic Gold Medal winner a role on the CBS show."
jschoi
January 25th, 2012 2:26 PM
Could Shaun White be next? Please!!!
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 2:24 PM
@jschoi - That's all I know at the moment, but I am keeping an eye on this and will post any news on my blog.
jschoi
January 25th, 2012 2:21 PM
@martinelli...I LOOOVE Apolo Ohno, did they say when he would be on, I already can't wait.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 1:41 PM
"Exclusive Casting Alert! Olympic speedskating medalist @ApoloOhno to guest star on #H50. Are there ice rinks in Hawaii?" tweeted @CBSTweet today.
jschoi
January 25th, 2012 1:41 PM
I couldn't bring myself to watch these eps, although I did like the scenes, few and short as they were, between Chin and Kono. I would like to see the relationship between them explored. I estimate them to be about 15 years apart, why is there bond so strong? here is the way I would write the story, of course they won't ask me but. In the Christmas ep last season Chin made ref to Konos mother, but no ref has ever been made to her father. In ep 5 this season Malia talked about her and Chin taking Kono to NSSAs, in my family it was my father who took me to my snowboarding comps. This how I would write it. Konos father was HPD and was klled in the line of duty while Kono very young and Chin became the father figure to Kono making bond more like father daughter than cousins, thus that unbreakable bond.
I am really sad the AOL rocks website go's down I understand why Mizz has to make this choice but for us fans who got or latest news about Alex it's a sad day wish Mizz all the best and Mahalo! for all your great work you have done in the least 3 years! (many hugs your way)
The new promo give's me hope for the rest of the season but still waiting that someone will confirm us that Lori will be gone soon. I hope now that Michelle show is canceled she will become a recurring character. but please we don't not another 5 wheel on the team with only the core 4 it is fine how it is!!
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:56 AM
@zia..she had all the info as fast as it came out. I feel lost now. LOL!! That is kind of sad but I liked her website. Now what???? We will have to try to keep each other informed of anything new that we find out. I am not ashamed to admit I feel a loss, ha ha!
I did not end up watching on monday, my hubby said he would rather continue catching up with season 1 so that is what we watched. Thank goodness!! She did not annoy me in the first few epis either, it took a few epis before that happened but when it did it was full force. And now there is no stopping it!
Zia Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:37 AM
@Amazingalex.....I can't believe it. I got a lot of info from the AOL rocks website on H50. She had stuff on there faster then CBS. There are other websites, but this was the best. Well, there are other things in life, I wish her the best.
I guess we have to wait until next week to get any Promo for the 2.15 episode. Watching 2.2 I remember Lori not bothering me as much at this point, but it took a very bad turn the next 5-6 episodes. Kono hardly not there until 2.5, then pushed aside again. They have been better the last 5-6 episodes. I hope Michelle Borth stays as a recurring character.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:08 AM
@martinelli and azziria..we have reason to be hopeful now. Lets just hope it is not false hope. I have been telling myself to just deal with her cause she is probably here to stay and then they release this promo. I will be crushed all over again if it means nothing. I think it does though.
AOL rocks website is closing down...where am I gonna get my alex info??? She had some sort of insider stuff all the time. SAD!!
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:03 AM
@Amazingalex - I think so too. She's been here almost all season 2 and if they were going to keep her in, they would have put her next to the other 4.
Danny Williams: Sinead O'Connor called, she wants her hairstyle back.
Rank: Regular Character
January 26th, 2012 11:39 AM
@Zeo......I don't know how many times I and others have said that it is nothing personal against Lauren German. We agree that the character is flawed which is not all her fault, they introduced her wrong, made it look like she was taking over, and 3 members of the team got very little screen time due to her presence in the first 7-8 episodes. That is why people became angry. Not necessarily at Lauren, but at the character. However, she did not play this person well, she was very stiff and could not show empathy for at least 11 episodes. This may be due to the fact that the writers kept changing who she should be and she was not sure how to play the part.
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January 26th, 2012 11:37 AM
@zeo...I've said this before and I'll say it one more time, I don't hate Lori or Lauren German. I don't hate anyone. I don't like Lauren German on this show. She maybe be a wonderful person and very good actress, I don't know, I had never heard of her before H50. So please do not accuse me of hating her.
Rank: Regular Character
January 26th, 2012 11:25 AM
I watched the first season's 1.3 episode. At the end when they are watching Steve's highschool football games, Danny asks why is a quarterback wearing number 50. Steve says "its not 50 its 5-0, my dad called the family that because we were not native hawaiians and he wanted us to feel like we belonged, so 5-0 for the 50th state". Kono said she liked that, and that's what they named the task force.
January 26th, 2012 11:25 AM
@jschoi- I've done some research about the actress Lauren German and she has a good name or at least had before h5o. This means that she can perform just fine but the writers must improve her character, make her feel comfortable with her role. If the writers improve Lori by giving her a real purpose I definitely prefer Lori staying. The girl is beautiful, I like her physical appearance and if the writers care more about Lori I hope she stays. Just give her something to do, something that is more suitable to her. Even if you disagree, the person Lauren must be respected and not confused with the fictional character.
January 26th, 2012 11:24 AM
@jschoi- it's not just about money. Lauren German is also human, and this war in my opinion is too much. She is just doing her job. We can like or dislike her character but many believe me included that it has become hate. Whats worse, the hate isn't just for the fictional Lori. Personally I sympathize this girl. This war against the real person is wrong and ugly. Of course the fictional character has flaws and should have been a babysitter. It has no purpose the way it is presented now and needs some change in order to continue. We shouldn't attack the real person so hard though. It's just a show and it's not only her fault. I've read that Lauren is a shy and funny person, she isn't empty, boring. Why hating her?
January 26th, 2012 9:50 AM
I'm tired of people feeling sorry for Lauren German. If one cannot take criticism they should not be in show business, sports or politics it goes with the territory. A few days ago some made reference the high unemployment rate and LG being out of a job, ridiculous. I don't know LGs salary for H50 but GP makes 60000 per ep, so if LGs is close to that and she has a movie out this year, I would really be happy with that and most Americans and Canadians would have to work years to make what LG or any of them make in a year. I'm not feeling sorry LG or any of them.
Rank: Regular Character
January 26th, 2012 9:07 AM
@Jeffrey... We were just talking about the promo and what it could mean. Those of us who dont see a use for lori are not responsible for the promo but you do have to admit it is very telling that she is not in it. I dont feel for her cause it is the job and she was not signed on as permanent. I personally will be very happy if she is gone soon but that is no secret. And as others have said 5-0 does not mean 5 team members. To me she has been nothing but a fifth wheel, not necessary and can mess with the vehicle.
Rank: Guest Star
January 26th, 2012 5:24 AM
@Jeffrey Sean Keith... We don't know what is gonna happen (I confess I will cheer from joy when she leave's) but not being in the promo is not a good signal for the Lori character and like Zia said the reason they call it Five-O is because it was Steve back number when he played football! so there is no need for a 5th team member at all.
Think Lauren German feels fine she knew from the beginning she would stay in the long run she sign. for 12 episode last year she extended it to four more so that make 16 episodes in this season so nothing to feel bad about!
January 26th, 2012 4:23 AM
We can't know what the original plans for Lori were. It's possible that she was always intended as a red shirt - the way to hurt Steve is through his team, and they obviously couldn't kill off one of the main four, so it's believable that they would introduce a new member, get the fans to buy in to her, and then have Wo Fat harm/kill her to get at Steve. If so then they probably wouldn't go to the expense of altering the main credit sequence for a character who wasn't going to last (originally) beyond 2.13.
Equally, it's possible that they intended her to be permanent but that, after Jenna, they wanted to try her out first. In which case they wouldn't go to the expense of adding her to the main credits until they'd assessed viewer reaction.
So now we wait - is she going, or will there be a character relaunch now that Joe is gone? Surely it has to be one or the other, because at the moment, with her character cut back, it's a waste of CBS's money and Lauren's time.
January 26th, 2012 4:09 AM
@Jeffrey: We know nothing for sure, everything is just guesswork at this point.
While I would be very happy to see Lori go, I personally won't be crowing if she does. I'm very saddened by the way this whole thing has played out. They introduced her character badly, with all the press stuff about love interest and her being a 'female McGarrett' meaning she started off at a big disadvantage. Lauren herself said at SOTB that she knew she had a big mountain to climb. Then the character was poorly written, and once it became clear she was unpopular they cut her role back so much that I can't see that any actress would have had much luck with it.
Add that the unpleasantness this has caused amongst the fans, and the whole thing has been a sad and sorry affair for everyone concerned. So if she goes I'll be relieved but not rejoicing.
January 26th, 2012 3:21 AM
@Jeffery, maybe cos P Lenkov told her at the beginning that she wasnt permanent, or that theyre hesistant to to add such a disliked character. Personally i dont mind Lori as long as shes in the background and working with either danny or Kono, but shes useless in my opinion.
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 8:06 PM
@Jeffrey......none of us knows for sure whether Lori is staying or going, and the H50 people are not going to say until we actually see it happen, if it does.
Also, Hawaii 5-0 has nothing to do with the number of people on the team, they explained this in the first season, that it was something senior McG made up to make the non-Hawaiian natives, (Steve and Mary), not feel so bad, and also that's why Steve wore number 50 on his football Jersey.
Kono was the one who suggested that they call the team 5-0.
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 8:05 PM
This is a question off of Mega Buzz;TV Guide, I thought you might be interested for those of you who were wondering why Max's name was not Asian.........
Got any intel on Hawaii Five-0? — Kerry
ADAM: What's in a name? Masi Oka's medical examiner Max Bergman is about to find out. "You're going to find out why he was orphaned," executive producer Peter Lenkov teases. "You would never think Masi would be named Max Bergman. So, you're going to find out why and that whole backstory is a very emotional journey."
January 25th, 2012 7:04 PM
Ok I have been sitting back reading these comments about that fact that Lori is not in the four rasons promo, I admit it does not look good for us Lori fans! I think it is not right, it is not fair if they brought her on she should be part of the team I mean she has been on this long she should be included and she should be in the opening credits I mean I can't imagine how Lauren German feels, I mean it is Hawaii Five-o not Hawaii Four-o! She should be part of the team! I know some of you must feel very happy!
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 2:47 PM
@jschoi - I don't think so. According to Spoiler tv: "Apolo Ohno’s fans have been lobbying Hawaii Five-0 executive producer Peter Lenkov for months in hopes of landing the Olympic Gold Medal winner a role on the CBS show."
January 25th, 2012 2:26 PM
Could Shaun White be next? Please!!!
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 2:24 PM
@jschoi - That's all I know at the moment, but I am keeping an eye on this and will post any news on my blog.
January 25th, 2012 2:21 PM
@martinelli...I LOOOVE Apolo Ohno, did they say when he would be on, I already can't wait.
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 1:41 PM
"Exclusive Casting Alert! Olympic speedskating medalist @ApoloOhno to guest star on #H50. Are there ice rinks in Hawaii?" tweeted @CBSTweet today.
January 25th, 2012 1:41 PM
I couldn't bring myself to watch these eps, although I did like the scenes, few and short as they were, between Chin and Kono. I would like to see the relationship between them explored. I estimate them to be about 15 years apart, why is there bond so strong? here is the way I would write the story, of course they won't ask me but. In the Christmas ep last season Chin made ref to Konos mother, but no ref has ever been made to her father. In ep 5 this season Malia talked about her and Chin taking Kono to NSSAs, in my family it was my father who took me to my snowboarding comps. This how I would write it. Konos father was HPD and was klled in the line of duty while Kono very young and Chin became the father figure to Kono making bond more like father daughter than cousins, thus that unbreakable bond.
Rank: Guest Star
January 25th, 2012 1:29 PM
I am really sad the AOL rocks website go's down I understand why Mizz has to make this choice but for us fans who got or latest news about Alex it's a sad day wish Mizz all the best and Mahalo! for all your great work you have done in the least 3 years! (many hugs your way)
The new promo give's me hope for the rest of the season but still waiting that someone will confirm us that Lori will be gone soon. I hope now that Michelle show is canceled she will become a recurring character. but please we don't not another 5 wheel on the team with only the core 4 it is fine how it is!!
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:56 AM
@zia..she had all the info as fast as it came out. I feel lost now. LOL!! That is kind of sad but I liked her website. Now what???? We will have to try to keep each other informed of anything new that we find out. I am not ashamed to admit I feel a loss, ha ha!
I did not end up watching on monday, my hubby said he would rather continue catching up with season 1 so that is what we watched. Thank goodness!! She did not annoy me in the first few epis either, it took a few epis before that happened but when it did it was full force. And now there is no stopping it!
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:37 AM
@Amazingalex.....I can't believe it. I got a lot of info from the AOL rocks website on H50. She had stuff on there faster then CBS. There are other websites, but this was the best. Well, there are other things in life, I wish her the best.
I guess we have to wait until next week to get any Promo for the 2.15 episode. Watching 2.2 I remember Lori not bothering me as much at this point, but it took a very bad turn the next 5-6 episodes. Kono hardly not there until 2.5, then pushed aside again. They have been better the last 5-6 episodes. I hope Michelle Borth stays as a recurring character.
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:08 AM
@martinelli and azziria..we have reason to be hopeful now. Lets just hope it is not false hope. I have been telling myself to just deal with her cause she is probably here to stay and then they release this promo. I will be crushed all over again if it means nothing. I think it does though.
AOL rocks website is closing down...where am I gonna get my alex info??? She had some sort of insider stuff all the time. SAD!!
Rank: Regular Character
January 25th, 2012 11:03 AM
@Amazingalex - I think so too. She's been here almost all season 2 and if they were going to keep her in, they would have put her next to the other 4.