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NCIS Round Table: "A Desperate Man"

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Our NCIS review broke down the latest installment of TV's top-rated show in great detail.

Now, TV Fanatic staff members Steve Marsi, Matt Richenthal and Eric Hochberger have assembled for a weekly Round Table Q&A discussion of events from last Tuesday's episode, "A Desperate Man."

Join in below, as we analyze various aspects of Tony, Ziva, Ray and more ...

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Describe this episode in one word (or two).

Steve: Emotionally complex.

Matt: Excellent.

Eric: Surprising.

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What was your favorite quote or scene?

Steve: Det. Burris telling Tony and Ziva to cherish each other. What a perfect way to end an episode that took so many twists and turns - both emotionally and in terms of the investigation.

Matt: In a Tiva-centric week, any scene with the more mature, supportive Tony. It was fun to watch the conflicted DiNozzo be there for his friend, even as she potentially agrees to marry someone else.

Eric: Ray getting walloped at the end. If there was EVER a dude that had it coming!

Are Tony and Ziva getting too much screen time?

Steve: Abby, McGee and Ducky all have had memorable stories this season, but not as much lately. Gibbs, as the show's focal point and the team's leader, will always command the most attention and I doubt many fans are upset about that. But hopefully after two Tiva-centric episodes we will pivot back to some of the other team members in the coming weeks. We know there's Palmer's wedding, if nothing else. Hopefully there's another episode featuring Abby and her brother in store, as well as another love interest for McGee. Talk about a dry spell!

Matt: Not to me, because the story arc has been so good. Both Cote de Pablo and Michael Weatherly have delivered strong, nuanced performances of late, and their characters' relationship - which I express my opinion on below - has been a treat to watch. After these last two weeks, what's to complain about? Be patient, fans of McGee and Abby. Your time will come!

Eric: Sometimes I wonder if I'm watching The Ziva Show ... and bear in mind I love me some bad ass Ziva, so no real complaints. Still, more Abby writers!

Did you peg Ray as the killer?

Steve: Maybe I'm just naive but I actually did not connect Ray to the case very quickly. I assumed his proposal and whereabouts were simply concurrent with the investigation, not involved. I also believed Ziva would say yes to the proposal, only to second-guess herself and break off the engagement weeks later.

Matt: Yes, Ray was shady even by CIA standards.

Eric: It was reasonably well disguised by the writers, but the way it's been going these days, I half-expected he would be involved even before his name turned up on that slip of paper.

Do the team members get involved with too many murderers?

Steve: As I said in my review, I'd like to see the NCIS team members involved in some more steady relationships - either with each other or outsiders - that don't involve murderers.

Matt: Yes. As Eric said earlier, I almost expect it nowadays. A little stability wouldn't hurt. In Ray's case, though, it worked better than most, given what he does (or did) for a living.

Eric: Are they involved with more people with such inclinations than you or I? Definitely. But it's a TV show (and a great one at that) and these are criminal investigators so I'll buy it.

Do you want Tony and Ziva to get together?

Steve: This may sound like a cop out, but I don't care too much either way as long as the writing quality remains strong and their relationship evolves in a believable manner. That's more important to me than whether their romantic connection develops. And, as I said earlier, my biggest concern is that the other characters not be ignored.

Matt: Personally no. I think of Tiva as friends, or closer than that, but not romantic partners. It's more of a sibling type chemistry to me - nothing more, nothing less - and it's terrific. As is.

Eric: Yes. They don't need to rush it, but yes. How many more guest characters need to comment on the obvious chemistry before they open their eyes! It's gonna happen.

What's your take on these issues of the week on NCIS? Discuss below!

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annie921 - In the "Gibbs Delivers" review is where he directs the "aren't smart" directly at me (one of the last comments, so easy to find). I do agree that fans can have all different points of view and still be fans. That's what makes reading the comments fun -- and I've read many more but have even been involved in a few back and forth opinions of what some episode of one show or another meant at TV Fanatic. I would like to think that the comments are for the sharing of enthusiasms and, yes, the frustrations of our favorite shows as well -- except as a sharing and not an alienation.

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Well I guess I missed the post where Michael accused someone of not being smart for not sharing his views, and I've heard many posters use the - you're not a real fan if . . . . argument. But IMO of those types of comments are inappropriate to me.

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hi editor hows everything with you loved your comment,yes i know we should ignore michael and his lies but i for one cant.anyway loved this episode it had a bit of everything and with over 21million viewers the people at NCIS are doing something right.

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annie921 -- It is Michael who says all the time that if you don't agree with him you "aren't smart." He also says you must agree with him or you aren't a "real fan." Don't ever criticize anyone for responding to his hatred of everyone! The people who comment are not garbage for Michael to stomp on while we lay palm fronds in front of him.

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Is no one here familiar with how these shows go? Bellisario's long-running "JAG"'s main couple, Harm and Mack, were teased continuously throughout the entire series of the show, and were not definitively and "officially" together until the last 5 or so minutes of the last show in the series.
This is how I think Tony and Ziva will come together - in a similar fashion.
And personally, I think that's the best way to do it.

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While I don't always understand Michael's comments, he has a right to have an opinion that differs from others and not be insulted. I too find ZIva's over done super skills and her holier than thou attitude an irritant and a real drag to the show. And there are others who feel this way as well. It's fine with me though if other fans love Ziva. But to me, the focus on this strangely written character diminishes the quality of the show. Personal attacks and bickering by posters don't win arguments or flatter anyone.

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Not only is Michael right he also not a sheep like so many fans and accpted the crap were getting Come on REAL NCIS fans let stand togther and tell The writer to BRING BACK NCIS.....

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KimBrady, Thanks for the whop upside my head. I take every thing back that I wrote earlier, just one of those days! This is the only show I watch. I do want to see more McAbby!!!! (and less of Tiva)

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Lynn - you are a bit like Michael
If you don't like Tony, Ziva and Palmer turn off the damn show and go watch
something you actually like ! Good lord .....

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Yes, stupid Michael is a 'dick' - but I have it on good authority from people in the know who have heard of Michael and his comments since - well, forever, that that "dick" is really a "jane" and has always spouted this hatred How sad - but how clever that everyone realizes just who and what he/she is .... Round Table guys - wonderful reviews - always. You must ACTUALLY watch the show because you can tell! The only thing I disagree with you, STEVE and MATT, is yes, of course Tony and Ziva should get together. All these years have been leading up to it and if it doesn't happen - what a completed let down. I totally loved A Desperate Man. Was glad to see the last of CIRay - that rotten killer - It was also wonderful to see the end of ej the week before. Perhaps now we CAN get some Team interaction for the rest of the season.

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