They have been saying NO to their feelings for this entire season
Sure.
One episode elena is swooning and depressed over steffie, being mos ridiculously stupid by holding out to her stockholm syndrome pairing and next episode she just lets him go and kisses his brother. Real good job with characterizing her...not. . That is just too high school for my taste buds.
and Damon Elena is not? Let's face it. Damon/Elena makes Chuck/Blair look healthy.
Both DE and SE right now are bassically TV versions of Bella/Edward. And thats yuck. Real love happens over time and has ups and downs.
"Real love" is a chemical reaction in our brains that leads to sexual intercourse.
I am seeing some things about Damon and Elena being a "forced" relationship. I feel like people who dislike them are just using any negative word they can find to prove a point. "Forced" does not even work.
Yes because hooking up a does-no-wrong-second-coming-of-jesus mary sue who cares with a serial killer and rapist who banged her mother and her identical ancestor, raped and abused one of her best friends and tried to bite the chunk out of another few times, forced blood down her throat, killed jeremy in front of her eyes, raped and abused that jenna's friend is obviously not forced. They have been slowly building sexual tension since day 1.
First season? sure. Afterward the show has been runing on the actor chemistry alone, with every scene they are in being unfitting and awful.
SnakeTheCritic
January 13th, 2012 10:28 AM
2 ** episode at best!
Once again the Delena kiss gets ignored. After what appeared to be a huge turning point for the characters. Although they did manage to let Stelena say goodbye. Or as Stefan put it , " I lost you the minute I left town with him. You just haven't let yourself, admit that yet. " Can also be seen as a clear message to you Stelena fans. Move on...
Klaus well he was ruined for me the moment he shed that tear. As the big bad, was a pussyboy longing for love. A true sign that the writers don't know the definition of evil. Or that they love that characteristic of both evil + good. That Damon, Katherine, Elijah, Stefan and now Klaus ALL HAVE SHOWN. TVD reminds me of the definition of insanity. What does that say about me ?
The Originals or at least Elijah need to be on this show asap.
Dr Fell bad and not intriguing at all.
Bring on the big bad Witch already !!!
puppybunny1 Rank: Guest Star
January 13th, 2012 10:27 AM
I think that Klaus thinks of Caroline as the sister that he killed, Rebekka. I would love for Klaus and Caroline to get together once and have a hybrid baby.
Lauren
January 13th, 2012 10:23 AM
I am seeing some things about Damon and Elena being a "forced" relationship. I feel like people who dislike them are just using any negative word they can find to prove a point. "Forced" does not even work. They have been slowly building sexual tension since day 1. They have been saying NO to their feelings for this entire season. Elena is STILL saying no out of respect for Stefan. Elena has been in situations of life and death with these two brothers. She has been protected by, loved, and has PROTECTED Damon as well as Stefan. Damon has been her rock through it all and little by little, she is losing sight of why she couldn't love him just as much as Stefan, if not MORE. If you ask me, the only thing that ever felt forced was Stefan and Elena. He was drawn to her because she looked like Katherine and she was drawn to him because he was hot. That is just too high school for my taste buds. Real love happens over time and has ups and downs.
Erica
January 13th, 2012 10:19 AM
Easily the best show of the season, maybe longer. Its sad that the few remaining SE fans are so bias they aren't even watching the same show as the rest of us. Crazy. Anywho, I'm not sure what to make of Care and Klaus. He probably is using her but also needs to take care of someone since Bekah is staked. This could turn into something more but he wont be on forever and she n Steffie have a ton of chemistry....jus sayin. Loved the Delena scene and all Damons worries about his Elena. Love the last
Stelena
January 13th, 2012 9:42 AM
I hated this episode so much! How could Stefan do that to Elena, it's totally not believable and it doesn't make any sense at all. He would never hurt her, as she's the love of his life! The writers are trying to make him bad but it doesn't work at all. I understand he wants revenge but he will always love Elena and would never hurt her. She should totally know that after everything he has done for her! As far as Damon and Elena, they are so forced and stupid and so not getting together. It would be so lame if they did.
TVDiva
January 13th, 2012 9:34 AM
I loved the episode for so many reasons! I am glad that your review acknowledged Stefan's broken heart. It was very telling when he told Elena "I lost you the day I left". Yes they are opening the door for DElena so they triangle will live another day. The writers attempt to make Elena bad ass still hasn't work though...she goes from I m tough to scared frequently. How beautiful was Caroline last night and I love Forwood just wish one couple could be happy. I thought the writers said Klaus would be the big bad it seems like he is becoming more human ....expressing his lonliness.
maoi
January 13th, 2012 9:30 AM
just when vampire diaries started getting boring, klaus/caroline came and swept me off my feet!!!! omg!! best couple ever
francine
January 13th, 2012 9:29 AM
it must be the witch that created the hybrids in the locked coffin or the mum....
alejandra
January 13th, 2012 9:20 AM
Klaroline. Good for now but Steroline longterm. Delena foreshadowing big time tonight, unless either party dies they are endgame. Matt has a much needed, defined role! Amazing epi, best of the season for me.
VD
January 13th, 2012 8:20 AM
Wow. I can't believe all the people already jumping on the Caroline/Klaus ship. Does no one remember that Klaus made Tyler bite Caroline? That was obviously all part of a plan, he knew that he was the only one that could save her after she was bitten. Thus, giving him the perfect opportunity to sweet talk her. I'm sure he is planning to somehow get Caroline on his side, either with more diamonds or pretty speeches, and is going to use her to undo his enemies. I love Caroline and I love Klaus...I DO NOT love the idea of them in an actual relationship.
As for Matt/Elena scene? Its another case of telling not showing. "Elena used to be fun" "Elena is so caring" "elena struggles so much".
Where's the actual struggle that defines her character?
How about showing? She is the main character and supposed protagonist. She is supposed to be audience's anchor to the show. The character whose journey it is about. The MAIN character. How about starting to treat her as one, even if its 3 seasons too late?
At this point Caroline has more character struggle and is more like main character of the show than Elena is. This episode pretty much highlighted that.
In fact for quite some time people who have never seen this show just assume "the blonde one" is the lead and get very shocked when they are told that the "brown haired one is". Why? Because Caroline is just so much more interesting, developed, flawed and human character than Elena. Elena literally has no development as character.
The thing is that No one really CONFRONTED her about it.
It was as always: "that is bad...oh well you know better we will go on with it".
The same happened when Elena went on her VERY stupid trip to search for steffie - Alaric and damon confronted her for two seconds and then continued being loyal dogs for no reason at all.
its not exactly realistic reaction. Elena is literally taking away a free will of a person and interrupting Bonnie's and others connection to him. Bonnie says she does not like it and that's it?
Its the major problem with the character of Elena Gilbert(well, the small bits of character she has that is). There's no actual conflict for her. Its as if universe just aligns itself every time for everyone to go on with her way. I guess I just expected this show to be more realistic and coherent in t his situation.
Lord Of Winter Rank: Recurring Character
January 13th, 2012 7:30 AM
This episode was awesome,It funny reading some of the fans comments.Ar first Stefan was boring and not like Klaus or Damon,Also he was one dimensional or too much of saint and a good guy.Now he to much of a monster,villain,Klaus needs to beat him at his own game,Elena needs to move on with Damon.I love with Stefan doing and his resolve,Because until Klaus Is dealt with no ones safe.Also Stefan now evil,But he has become a darker person.Because he has to to defeat Klaus.
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
January 13th, 2012 7:09 AM
@Bored Now: Didn't Bonnie spend a long time calling Elena out on taking away Jeremy's free will? And didn't Elena later talk to Matt about her struggle with this decision?
I know it's your thing to be negative, but don't be so critical that you simply misstate facts.
I just love how fangirls assume that everyone who does not like the forced DE scenes loves SE. Both relationships are forced, messed up and bland.
And yes, both love triangle sides are usually explored in shows, but IN THE WAY THAT IT MAKES SENSE. TVD just threw them together without any build up and now they are trying to pull off same shit with caroline/klaus.
meah
January 13th, 2012 6:05 AM
stelena fans stop worrying so much.in every love triangle both sides are always explored..before it was all about stefan and elena,now its damon and elena...i personally think that stefan and becca should hookup...As for caroline,i think klaus wants to use her later on in the show...Paul wesley was amazing as usual...i think he's the best actor on the CW
smiley01
January 13th, 2012 6:02 AM
Although Klaus was so sweet but I can't buy it..I believe that he planned this moment from the beginning that's why he order Tyler to bite Caroline..His plan is to gain support from the Sheriff , Caroline and turn the table on Stefan
meah
January 13th, 2012 5:58 AM
these stelena fans are funny..in a love triangle,both sides of the triangles would be explored,so stelena fans stop worrying about stefan and elena,cos right now its about damon and elena...since damon and elena would be together,i wanna see stefan and rebecca,they so good together...i also feel klaus wants to gain caroline's trust and use it later on..Paul wesley was once again amazing today,he is the best actor on CW..
San
January 13th, 2012 5:39 AM
Totally LOVED the episode :) I still think Bonnie's annoying (though it's handy to have her around when you've run out of matches), but I totally liked Matt's part in this week's episode - a normal human friend who's around when the supernatural girls are in trouble ;) Adorable!
I agree with the people who say that Klaus might feel lonely without Rebekah and Caroline is a bit like her. I don't see Klaroline as a couple, but he might actually start to care for her like he cared for his sister. As much as I like badass villains, I prefer characters with a "grey" character, if you know what I mean.
Speaking of badass: I take my hat off to Stefan :D He's a so much more interesting character this season!
As to "what's in the locked coffin?!?" - you just have to watch the promo for next week's episode. Or did I misunderstand something there?
CrAZychicke
January 13th, 2012 5:07 AM
I think also he missed Rebekah and Caroline might remind him of her. Badass Stefan was such a great idea, I still don't know what to expect. Seeing Damon pleading with Klaus was AWESOME. Loved every single, possible friendship that they included, especially the really rare, like Elena/Matt, Damon/Liz, Bonnie/Matt/Elena/Caroline, Elena/Alaric, Elena/Jeremy Beremy. To the main pairings like Delena, Forwood and yes that little bit of Stelena angst was much needed, now Elena can realise it's ok to love Damon back.. my dreams just came true. Great review. Five stars = perfect.
CrAZychicke
January 13th, 2012 5:07 AM
TVD writers are freaking amazing!!!! I got my delena kiss last week, yes there was an i love you from tyler and then the fact that tyler actually can't say no to klaus, siring means he is dangerous because he will do whatever klaus says even if he doesn't want to. Also I got my Klaroline moments!!! and yes, there's definiteyl more going on, butI don't care, i FREAKING LOVE KLAUS and I really hope Caroline brings out more of his humanity.
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
January 13th, 2012 3:50 AM
Forwood or nothing! Stefan will always love Elena. Matt hardly exists as a character anymore. Damon will always love Elena. Klaus would be gross and he's either going to die or go away eventually anyway.
Elena : I just want to kill her. It's that simple.
January 13th, 2012 10:38 AM
They have been saying NO to their feelings for this entire season
Sure.
One episode elena is swooning and depressed over steffie, being mos ridiculously stupid by holding out to her stockholm syndrome pairing and next episode she just lets him go and kisses his brother. Real good job with characterizing her...not.
. That is just too high school for my taste buds.
and Damon Elena is not? Let's face it. Damon/Elena makes Chuck/Blair look healthy.
Both DE and SE right now are bassically TV versions of Bella/Edward. And thats yuck.
Real love happens over time and has ups and downs.
"Real love" is a chemical reaction in our brains that leads to sexual intercourse.
January 13th, 2012 10:38 AM
I am seeing some things about Damon and Elena being a "forced" relationship. I feel like people who dislike them are just using any negative word they can find to prove a point. "Forced" does not even work.
Yes because hooking up a does-no-wrong-second-coming-of-jesus mary sue who cares with a serial killer and rapist who banged her mother and her identical ancestor, raped and abused one of her best friends and tried to bite the chunk out of another few times, forced blood down her throat, killed jeremy in front of her eyes, raped and abused that jenna's friend is obviously not forced.
They have been slowly building sexual tension since day 1.
First season? sure. Afterward the show has been runing on the actor chemistry alone, with every scene they are in being unfitting and awful.
January 13th, 2012 10:28 AM
2 ** episode at best!
Once again the Delena kiss gets ignored. After what appeared to be a huge turning point for the characters. Although they did manage to let Stelena say goodbye. Or as Stefan put it , " I lost you the minute I left town with him. You just haven't let yourself, admit that yet. " Can also be seen as a clear message to you Stelena fans. Move on...
Klaus well he was ruined for me the moment he shed that tear. As the big bad, was a pussyboy longing for love. A true sign that the writers don't know the definition of evil. Or that they love that characteristic of both evil + good. That Damon, Katherine, Elijah, Stefan and now Klaus ALL HAVE SHOWN. TVD reminds me of the definition of insanity. What does that say about me ?
The Originals or at least Elijah need to be on this show asap.
Dr Fell bad and not intriguing at all.
Bring on the big bad Witch already !!!
Rank: Guest Star
January 13th, 2012 10:27 AM
I think that Klaus thinks of Caroline as the sister that he killed, Rebekka. I would love for Klaus and Caroline to get together once and have a hybrid baby.
January 13th, 2012 10:23 AM
I am seeing some things about Damon and Elena being a "forced" relationship. I feel like people who dislike them are just using any negative word they can find to prove a point. "Forced" does not even work. They have been slowly building sexual tension since day 1. They have been saying NO to their feelings for this entire season. Elena is STILL saying no out of respect for Stefan. Elena has been in situations of life and death with these two brothers. She has been protected by, loved, and has PROTECTED Damon as well as Stefan. Damon has been her rock through it all and little by little, she is losing sight of why she couldn't love him just as much as Stefan, if not MORE. If you ask me, the only thing that ever felt forced was Stefan and Elena. He was drawn to her because she looked like Katherine and she was drawn to him because he was hot. That is just too high school for my taste buds. Real love happens over time and has ups and downs.
January 13th, 2012 10:19 AM
Easily the best show of the season, maybe longer. Its sad that the few remaining SE fans are so bias they aren't even watching the same show as the rest of us. Crazy. Anywho, I'm not sure what to make of Care and Klaus. He probably is using her but also needs to take care of someone since Bekah is staked. This could turn into something more but he wont be on forever and she n Steffie have a ton of chemistry....jus sayin. Loved the Delena scene and all Damons worries about his Elena. Love the last
January 13th, 2012 9:42 AM
I hated this episode so much! How could Stefan do that to Elena, it's totally not believable and it doesn't make any sense at all. He would never hurt her, as she's the love of his life! The writers are trying to make him bad but it doesn't work at all. I understand he wants revenge but he will always love Elena and would never hurt her. She should totally know that after everything he has done for her! As far as Damon and Elena, they are so forced and stupid and so not getting together. It would be so lame if they did.
January 13th, 2012 9:34 AM
I loved the episode for so many reasons! I am glad that your review acknowledged Stefan's broken heart. It was very telling when he told Elena "I lost you the day I left". Yes they are opening the door for DElena so they triangle will live another day. The writers attempt to make Elena bad ass still hasn't work though...she goes from I m tough to scared frequently. How beautiful was Caroline last night and I love Forwood just wish one couple could be happy. I thought the writers said Klaus would be the big bad it seems like he is becoming more human ....expressing his lonliness.
January 13th, 2012 9:30 AM
just when vampire diaries started getting boring, klaus/caroline came and swept me off my feet!!!! omg!! best couple ever
January 13th, 2012 9:29 AM
it must be the witch that created the hybrids in the locked coffin or the mum....
January 13th, 2012 9:20 AM
Klaroline. Good for now but Steroline longterm. Delena foreshadowing big time tonight, unless either party dies they are endgame. Matt has a much needed, defined role! Amazing epi, best of the season for me.
January 13th, 2012 8:20 AM
Wow. I can't believe all the people already jumping on the Caroline/Klaus ship. Does no one remember that Klaus made Tyler bite Caroline? That was obviously all part of a plan, he knew that he was the only one that could save her after she was bitten. Thus, giving him the perfect opportunity to sweet talk her. I'm sure he is planning to somehow get Caroline on his side, either with more diamonds or pretty speeches, and is going to use her to undo his enemies. I love Caroline and I love Klaus...I DO NOT love the idea of them in an actual relationship.
January 13th, 2012 7:54 AM
As for Matt/Elena scene? Its another case of telling not showing. "Elena used to be fun" "Elena is so caring" "elena struggles so much".
Where's the actual struggle that defines her character?
How about showing? She is the main character and supposed protagonist. She is supposed to be audience's anchor to the show. The character whose journey it is about. The MAIN character. How about starting to treat her as one, even if its 3 seasons too late?
At this point Caroline has more character struggle and is more like main character of the show than Elena is. This episode pretty much highlighted that.
In fact for quite some time people who have never seen this show just assume "the blonde one" is the lead and get very shocked when they are told that the "brown haired one is". Why? Because Caroline is just so much more interesting, developed, flawed and human character than Elena. Elena literally has no development as character.
Rank: Guest Star
January 13th, 2012 7:51 AM
I can seriously hardly breathe after watching this episode.
January 13th, 2012 7:50 AM
The thing is that No one really CONFRONTED her about it.
It was as always: "that is bad...oh well you know better we will go on with it".
The same happened when Elena went on her VERY stupid trip to search for steffie - Alaric and damon confronted her for two seconds and then continued being loyal dogs for no reason at all.
its not exactly realistic reaction. Elena is literally taking away a free will of a person and interrupting Bonnie's and others connection to him. Bonnie says she does not like it and that's it?
Its the major problem with the character of Elena Gilbert(well, the small bits of character she has that is). There's no actual conflict for her. Its as if universe just aligns itself every time for everyone to go on with her way. I guess I just expected this show to be more realistic and coherent in t his situation.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 13th, 2012 7:30 AM
This episode was awesome,It funny reading some of the fans comments.Ar first Stefan was boring and not like Klaus or Damon,Also he was one dimensional or too much of saint and a good guy.Now he to much of a monster,villain,Klaus needs to beat him at his own game,Elena needs to move on with Damon.I love with Stefan doing and his resolve,Because until Klaus Is dealt with no ones safe.Also Stefan now evil,But he has become a darker person.Because he has to to defeat Klaus.
Rank: Staff Member
January 13th, 2012 7:09 AM
@Bored Now: Didn't Bonnie spend a long time calling Elena out on taking away Jeremy's free will? And didn't Elena later talk to Matt about her struggle with this decision?
I know it's your thing to be negative, but don't be so critical that you simply misstate facts.
January 13th, 2012 6:29 AM
I just love how fangirls assume that everyone who does not like the forced DE scenes loves SE. Both relationships are forced, messed up and bland.
And yes, both love triangle sides are usually explored in shows, but IN THE WAY THAT IT MAKES SENSE. TVD just threw them together without any build up and now they are trying to pull off same shit with caroline/klaus.
January 13th, 2012 6:05 AM
stelena fans stop worrying so much.in every love triangle both sides are always explored..before it was all about stefan and elena,now its damon and elena...i personally think that stefan and becca should hookup...As for caroline,i think klaus wants to use her later on in the show...Paul wesley was amazing as usual...i think he's the best actor on the CW
January 13th, 2012 6:02 AM
Although Klaus was so sweet but I can't buy it..I believe that he planned this moment from the beginning that's why he order Tyler to bite Caroline..His plan is to gain support from the Sheriff , Caroline and turn the table on Stefan
January 13th, 2012 5:58 AM
these stelena fans are funny..in a love triangle,both sides of the triangles would be explored,so stelena fans stop worrying about stefan and elena,cos right now its about damon and elena...since damon and elena would be together,i wanna see stefan and rebecca,they so good together...i also feel klaus wants to gain caroline's trust and use it later on..Paul wesley was once again amazing today,he is the best actor on CW..
January 13th, 2012 5:39 AM
Totally LOVED the episode :) I still think Bonnie's annoying (though it's handy to have her around when you've run out of matches), but I totally liked Matt's part in this week's episode - a normal human friend who's around when the supernatural girls are in trouble ;) Adorable!
I agree with the people who say that Klaus might feel lonely without Rebekah and Caroline is a bit like her. I don't see Klaroline as a couple, but he might actually start to care for her like he cared for his sister. As much as I like badass villains, I prefer characters with a "grey" character, if you know what I mean.
Speaking of badass: I take my hat off to Stefan :D He's a so much more interesting character this season!
As to "what's in the locked coffin?!?" - you just have to watch the promo for next week's episode. Or did I misunderstand something there?
January 13th, 2012 5:07 AM
I think also he missed Rebekah and Caroline might remind him of her. Badass Stefan was such a great idea, I still don't know what to expect. Seeing Damon pleading with Klaus was AWESOME. Loved every single, possible friendship that they included, especially the really rare, like Elena/Matt, Damon/Liz, Bonnie/Matt/Elena/Caroline, Elena/Alaric, Elena/Jeremy Beremy. To the main pairings like Delena, Forwood and yes that little bit of Stelena angst was much needed, now Elena can realise it's ok to love Damon back.. my dreams just came true. Great review. Five stars = perfect.
January 13th, 2012 5:07 AM
TVD writers are freaking amazing!!!! I got my delena kiss last week, yes there was an i love you from tyler and then the fact that tyler actually can't say no to klaus, siring means he is dangerous because he will do whatever klaus says even if he doesn't want to. Also I got my Klaroline moments!!! and yes, there's definiteyl more going on, butI don't care, i FREAKING LOVE KLAUS and I really hope Caroline brings out more of his humanity.
Rank: Regular Character
January 13th, 2012 3:50 AM
Forwood or nothing! Stefan will always love Elena. Matt hardly exists as a character anymore. Damon will always love Elena. Klaus would be gross and he's either going to die or go away eventually anyway.