I agree with the reviewer.. That's the main reason why I quit this show.. Glad I did. Keep the work up Matt. Great review. This should be a wake up call for them.
4eva Gleek
February 8th, 2012 9:00 AM
Also the problem with the show is not it's big cast, it's ryan murphy, who thinks he's God's gift to Earth. I so wish someone else would take over this show, it still has show much potential. The show isn't as good because the writers don't care about the characters, it was their new plaything, till they got bored.
4eva Gleek
February 8th, 2012 8:55 AM
Guys stop being so harsh on Matt, I've read a lot of his reviews and not just for this show, he just gives his honest opinion. It's not about hating the show at all. On that note, I do think the review may be a tad bit too harsh, that's why everyone is lashing out at you Matt. Some things in this review remind me of Bored Now, who criticizes the same thing week after week, I'm referring to this love triangle. Right now, I don't you'll ever be invested in it, because it's bothered you from the get go and you won't give it that much of a chance.
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 7:22 AM
@AliceB: I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "biased." What am I biased against? Bad television?
I dislike Glee these days - and yes, only these days, to all who claim I haven't watched from the beginning; please go back and read all of my reviews, since day one, before passing judgment. They are all right HERE on the site. - because it's a complete mess of storytelling and logic. So, as I said, what does that make me "biased" against?
The Gleeks are going crazy! I have to say, Matt is absolutely, 100% correct in his review, and the other sites are saying the same thing. The job is not to talk about just good things in every episode. You should always be able to find at least one good thing. But the point is to acknowledge that the quality has dropped and the episode was a bit of a mess. I have been watching Glee from the very beginning and have loved so much of it. But honestly, you have to admit that this episode was not great...at all.
S
February 8th, 2012 6:58 AM
(2/2) Just because a show is silly and you let some things slip by does not mean you cannot notice when an episode is a complete waste. Glee is not meant to be realistic. Agreed. But in the past there was some cohesiveness to the story. And the characters have been so poorly handled! This week I was actually surprised because I had forgotten how fun Sue could be. Remember how she used to be a big part of the show?
And don't blame it on Glee having a big cast. Plenty of shows have big casts and do a decent job. That is no excuse.
Overall, yes, we are all Gleeks and we love the show. Yes, we should be a little lenient because Glee is about the music. But don't push it. The reviewer is right - how are we supposed to care about any of these storylines when they haven't been shown to us? Heck, even a 2-minute scene between Finn and Kurt or Samcedes a couple of episodes back could have done wonders for today's episode.
Let's get real gleeks. We can be lenient, but not idiots.
S
February 8th, 2012 6:57 AM
(1/2) Ok. People need to stop bashing the reviewer.
I'm all for letting a few things slip by for the sake of an hour of good fun (been doing it since Season 1), but this episode was ridiculous.
The storylines came out of nowhere and everything was set up just so they could bring in Ricky Martin. And let me note my utter disappointment because Ricky Martin was so POORLY used. Did they even THINK to use one of his songs? Plus, they were so off on latin culture I didn't know whether to laugh or be offended. I appreciated Santana's speech, but her performance with Ricky Martin also added to latin stereotypes.
And listen - I always know not to take Glee too seriously because I'm in it for the performances. But I have to say, as much as I love Glee and tune in every week - I was very, very disappointed. The performances weren't even that enjoyable. The spark was gone... except for Sexy and I Know It - that was hot.
no vuelvas
February 8th, 2012 6:54 AM
The most bias review i read.. i'll better read review from Eonline or another website. The reviewer obviously did not watched glee from the very start, this reviewer have no passion
Jade
February 8th, 2012 6:38 AM
I actually completely agree with the review of this episode. I don't think the reviewer needs to like the show. I love Glee so much, I never take it too seriously as it's not meant to be serious, even when serious things happen! But tonight I was disappointed. I had been looking forward to this episode, and Ricky Martin certainly delivered, amongst a terrible storyline.I actually sought a bad review out because I felt like I needed to have my feelings justified! That it wasn't just me! I hope they pick up their game next week, HUGE Goldblum fan!!!!!!!!!
AliceB
February 8th, 2012 6:28 AM
Matt, we're not saying that you have to like the show to review it, but you always point out the bad in the show. Even when Glee does something right, you don't put that in your review. Also, you hating the show makes your review bias. And to whoever said Brittany didn't speak @ all, she had one line, actually.
BrazilianGleek
February 8th, 2012 6:07 AM
Honestly, why is the reviewer such a hater?
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 6:02 AM
@Steve: I'm sorry you feel that way. My intention is certainly not to upset Glee fans, but I do fail to understand the argument that a reviewer must love a show and praise it blindly. My job is to write an honest assessment of an episode, that's it; not cater to a show's fans.
I think I point out legitimate flaws each week and, based on the large majority here who agree, along with diminished season 3 ratings, I'm not alone.
It would be one thing if I randomly bashed the show, but I try very hard to back up my points with a detailed explanation. Isn't that the job of a TV critic?
kyi
February 8th, 2012 6:00 AM
Glee is beyond help with its current writers.
Using lame excuse to remove Will from his Spanish teacher position in order to bring Ricky Martin into the show is way too stupid to watch. On top of that, Ricky Martin and his character's personality are just plain boring.
Sam and Mercedes's fake and dragging triangle also need to go. Most people don't feel whatever the feeling she have for either guys so let's stop pretending that we care.
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 5:57 AM
"But when watching Glee, you have to throw out a lot of things that make a good tv show."
That says it all, @Steve, doesn't it?
K
February 8th, 2012 4:37 AM
I totally agree with the reviewer. Viewers might want to be entertained, but we are not as stupid as the writers want to make us believe.
Zero
February 8th, 2012 4:13 AM
I didn't enjoy the episode it was sorta stupid and random but this reviewer is great at bashing the show, pointing out the bad things about it and he doesn't even waste some of his f*cking time to point out the good things. Whatever, I'm so done with this man.
Zero
February 8th, 2012 4:09 AM
"Nene Leakes is actually fitting in well to her role, too. You might even say she's the best thing about Glee these days." LOL Mr. Richenthal, you are a joke.
lalee
February 8th, 2012 3:19 AM
Ok, so Im from Argentina (South America). Let me just say that this was terrible. Santana cannot even speak spanish, let alone lecture Will on stereotyping after singing La Isla Bonita by Madonna. Thats not even a Spanish song. And let me be clear about something, Latin America, as you call it, and Spain are not the same. Moreover, countries in Latin America have different cultures, traditions, music, clothes and history. I mean, im sitting at home in Buenos Aires 5000 miles away from Mexico D.F, waiting for someone on the show to acknowledge the fact that Latin America is not all Mexico, or even that Spain is in a whole different continent. Even people in Canada are closer to Mexico than most conuntries of South America. Seriously, if this episode was meant to stop the stereotyping of spanish speaking countries it failed completely...
Lilly
February 8th, 2012 1:49 AM
Glee has totally went down down DOWNhill since season 1. The music aint all that great no more, and the storyline is meaningless. It being a SOAP OPERA instead of light funny high school musical.
sploveglee
February 8th, 2012 1:36 AM
For people comparing glee to smash, it is completely unfair to both shows seeing that Glee is in its 3rd season and Smash literally just came out a day ago. Of course the later will see more clear cut because there's only 1 episode out! Secondly, I honestly think people should not take everything that happens in Glee so seriously. Glee is not the kind of show that should be taken literally, but it's been that way since the pilot! In season 1, Do you honestly think a doctor would have ever agreed to show a fake ultra sound? No! But everyone bought into that. So I don't see why all of a sudden people are getting riled up over the things that would not actually happen in real life. Cut the show some slack! Yes, this may have not been Glee's strongest episode ever. But I personally thought it was good because it had enjoyable performances, much-needed confrontations, and promoted the Spanish culture. So lay off people!
Brigit
February 8th, 2012 1:06 AM
This was the worst episode ever; I agree with the reviewer. It's such a shame that it's come to this; soon i'll have one less show to watch. I am surprised it has jumped the shark this early but I guess storylines are hard to come by..
may
February 8th, 2012 12:54 AM
@Jenna um, have you SEEN smash? Right now, even at just the pilot, it is more comprehensive, smart and funny than any of the latest glee episodes. And also, so far, not racist, which is more than i can say for Spanish teacher. Glee is doing very little right these days, including a storyline that tries to make it seem smart that rachel and finn are getting married, because 'lots' of people do it. who? Who does it?! The only good things in this episode- puck saying he'll probably he dead or in jail in 2030, and Kurt pointing out how stupid it is for finn and rachel to get married. I swear you are watching these episodes through the biggest rose-tinted glasses in the world. Quality is way down hill, and it is not the reviewer's job to say, well as long as they're singing, who cares if there is no sensible plot or character development
Jenna
February 8th, 2012 12:31 AM
At this point, I feel like even if Glee does something right, it wwon't be acknowledged by the reviewe because he's staring himself blind at the not so good parts. Also I can't help but wonder if this harsher than usual review was written while continuely comparing GLee to Smash. I think a lot of people need to be reminded that Glee got the same stellar reviews in their first season, comparing the two is a waste. Also I'm not really a pro at doing but I have to say, I know a lot of people who're totally into the Mercedes triangle. I guess Glee can expect anything from us normal people.
Steve
February 8th, 2012 12:17 AM
I agree completely with @AmyGirl.
I'm not saying that a Glee reviewer has to love the show and love every episode for me to enjoy the review, but I just feel like this particular reviewer doesn't understand the show. If I, as a viewer, wanted everything that I got from say, Mad Men, then I would hate hate hate Glee. But when watching Glee, you have to throw out a lot of things that make a good tv show.
I agree that Glee isn't as good as it used to be (the first 13 episodes were phenomenal), but Glee is different.
And to address Sam and Mercedes, they actually had more than just "holding hands for a few seconds" last season. Remember prom? Yeah -- that's where it began.
Please, please find a new reviewer.
tianna
February 7th, 2012 11:39 PM
glee has lost its course this season and after 2 strong episodes i thought it might be finding its footing but im not surprised that it isnt.
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Rank: Extra
February 8th, 2012 9:26 AM
I agree with the reviewer.. That's the main reason why I quit this show.. Glad I did. Keep the work up Matt. Great review. This should be a wake up call for them.
February 8th, 2012 9:00 AM
Also the problem with the show is not it's big cast, it's ryan murphy, who thinks he's God's gift to Earth. I so wish someone else would take over this show, it still has show much potential. The show isn't as good because the writers don't care about the characters, it was their new plaything, till they got bored.
February 8th, 2012 8:55 AM
Guys stop being so harsh on Matt, I've read a lot of his reviews and not just for this show, he just gives his honest opinion. It's not about hating the show at all. On that note, I do think the review may be a tad bit too harsh, that's why everyone is lashing out at you Matt. Some things in this review remind me of Bored Now, who criticizes the same thing week after week, I'm referring to this love triangle. Right now, I don't you'll ever be invested in it, because it's bothered you from the get go and you won't give it that much of a chance.
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 7:22 AM
@AliceB: I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "biased." What am I biased against? Bad television?
I dislike Glee these days - and yes, only these days, to all who claim I haven't watched from the beginning; please go back and read all of my reviews, since day one, before passing judgment. They are all right HERE on the site. - because it's a complete mess of storytelling and logic. So, as I said, what does that make me "biased" against?
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 7:17 AM
The Gleeks are going crazy! I have to say, Matt is absolutely, 100% correct in his review, and the other sites are saying the same thing. The job is not to talk about just good things in every episode. You should always be able to find at least one good thing. But the point is to acknowledge that the quality has dropped and the episode was a bit of a mess. I have been watching Glee from the very beginning and have loved so much of it. But honestly, you have to admit that this episode was not great...at all.
February 8th, 2012 6:58 AM
(2/2) Just because a show is silly and you let some things slip by does not mean you cannot notice when an episode is a complete waste. Glee is not meant to be realistic. Agreed. But in the past there was some cohesiveness to the story. And the characters have been so poorly handled! This week I was actually surprised because I had forgotten how fun Sue could be. Remember how she used to be a big part of the show?
And don't blame it on Glee having a big cast. Plenty of shows have big casts and do a decent job. That is no excuse.
Overall, yes, we are all Gleeks and we love the show. Yes, we should be a little lenient because Glee is about the music. But don't push it. The reviewer is right - how are we supposed to care about any of these storylines when they haven't been shown to us? Heck, even a 2-minute scene between Finn and Kurt or Samcedes a couple of episodes back could have done wonders for today's episode.
Let's get real gleeks. We can be lenient, but not idiots.
February 8th, 2012 6:57 AM
(1/2) Ok. People need to stop bashing the reviewer.
I'm all for letting a few things slip by for the sake of an hour of good fun (been doing it since Season 1), but this episode was ridiculous.
The storylines came out of nowhere and everything was set up just so they could bring in Ricky Martin. And let me note my utter disappointment because Ricky Martin was so POORLY used. Did they even THINK to use one of his songs? Plus, they were so off on latin culture I didn't know whether to laugh or be offended. I appreciated Santana's speech, but her performance with Ricky Martin also added to latin stereotypes.
And listen - I always know not to take Glee too seriously because I'm in it for the performances. But I have to say, as much as I love Glee and tune in every week - I was very, very disappointed. The performances weren't even that enjoyable. The spark was gone... except for Sexy and I Know It - that was hot.
February 8th, 2012 6:54 AM
The most bias review i read.. i'll better read review from Eonline or another website. The reviewer obviously did not watched glee from the very start, this reviewer have no passion
February 8th, 2012 6:38 AM
I actually completely agree with the review of this episode. I don't think the reviewer needs to like the show. I love Glee so much, I never take it too seriously as it's not meant to be serious, even when serious things happen! But tonight I was disappointed. I had been looking forward to this episode, and Ricky Martin certainly delivered, amongst a terrible storyline.I actually sought a bad review out because I felt like I needed to have my feelings justified! That it wasn't just me! I hope they pick up their game next week, HUGE Goldblum fan!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2012 6:28 AM
Matt, we're not saying that you have to like the show to review it, but you always point out the bad in the show. Even when Glee does something right, you don't put that in your review. Also, you hating the show makes your review bias. And to whoever said Brittany didn't speak @ all, she had one line, actually.
February 8th, 2012 6:07 AM
Honestly, why is the reviewer such a hater?
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 6:02 AM
@Steve: I'm sorry you feel that way. My intention is certainly not to upset Glee fans, but I do fail to understand the argument that a reviewer must love a show and praise it blindly. My job is to write an honest assessment of an episode, that's it; not cater to a show's fans.
I think I point out legitimate flaws each week and, based on the large majority here who agree, along with diminished season 3 ratings, I'm not alone.
It would be one thing if I randomly bashed the show, but I try very hard to back up my points with a detailed explanation. Isn't that the job of a TV critic?
February 8th, 2012 6:00 AM
Glee is beyond help with its current writers.
Using lame excuse to remove Will from his Spanish teacher position in order to bring Ricky Martin into the show is way too stupid to watch. On top of that, Ricky Martin and his character's personality are just plain boring.
Sam and Mercedes's fake and dragging triangle also need to go. Most people don't feel whatever the feeling she have for either guys so let's stop pretending that we care.
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2012 5:57 AM
"But when watching Glee, you have to throw out a lot of things that make a good tv show."
That says it all, @Steve, doesn't it?
February 8th, 2012 4:37 AM
I totally agree with the reviewer. Viewers might want to be entertained, but we are not as stupid as the writers want to make us believe.
February 8th, 2012 4:13 AM
I didn't enjoy the episode it was sorta stupid and random but this reviewer is great at bashing the show, pointing out the bad things about it and he doesn't even waste some of his f*cking time to point out the good things. Whatever, I'm so done with this man.
February 8th, 2012 4:09 AM
"Nene Leakes is actually fitting in well to her role, too. You might even say she's the best thing about Glee these days." LOL Mr. Richenthal, you are a joke.
February 8th, 2012 3:19 AM
Ok, so Im from Argentina (South America). Let me just say that this was terrible. Santana cannot even speak spanish, let alone lecture Will on stereotyping after singing La Isla Bonita by Madonna. Thats not even a Spanish song. And let me be clear about something, Latin America, as you call it, and Spain are not the same. Moreover, countries in Latin America have different cultures, traditions, music, clothes and history. I mean, im sitting at home in Buenos Aires 5000 miles away from Mexico D.F, waiting for someone on the show to acknowledge the fact that Latin America is not all Mexico, or even that Spain is in a whole different continent. Even people in Canada are closer to Mexico than most conuntries of South America. Seriously, if this episode was meant to stop the stereotyping of spanish speaking countries it failed completely...
February 8th, 2012 1:49 AM
Glee has totally went down down DOWNhill since season 1. The music aint all that great no more, and the storyline is meaningless. It being a SOAP OPERA instead of light funny high school musical.
February 8th, 2012 1:36 AM
For people comparing glee to smash, it is completely unfair to both shows seeing that Glee is in its 3rd season and Smash literally just came out a day ago. Of course the later will see more clear cut because there's only 1 episode out! Secondly, I honestly think people should not take everything that happens in Glee so seriously. Glee is not the kind of show that should be taken literally, but it's been that way since the pilot! In season 1, Do you honestly think a doctor would have ever agreed to show a fake ultra sound? No! But everyone bought into that. So I don't see why all of a sudden people are getting riled up over the things that would not actually happen in real life. Cut the show some slack! Yes, this may have not been Glee's strongest episode ever. But I personally thought it was good because it had enjoyable performances, much-needed confrontations, and promoted the Spanish culture. So lay off people!
February 8th, 2012 1:06 AM
This was the worst episode ever; I agree with the reviewer. It's such a shame that it's come to this; soon i'll have one less show to watch. I am surprised it has jumped the shark this early but I guess storylines are hard to come by..
February 8th, 2012 12:54 AM
@Jenna um, have you SEEN smash? Right now, even at just the pilot, it is more comprehensive, smart and funny than any of the latest glee episodes. And also, so far, not racist, which is more than i can say for Spanish teacher. Glee is doing very little right these days, including a storyline that tries to make it seem smart that rachel and finn are getting married, because 'lots' of people do it. who? Who does it?! The only good things in this episode- puck saying he'll probably he dead or in jail in 2030, and Kurt pointing out how stupid it is for finn and rachel to get married. I swear you are watching these episodes through the biggest rose-tinted glasses in the world. Quality is way down hill, and it is not the reviewer's job to say, well as long as they're singing, who cares if there is no sensible plot or character development
February 8th, 2012 12:31 AM
At this point, I feel like even if Glee does something right, it wwon't be acknowledged by the reviewe because he's staring himself blind at the not so good parts. Also I can't help but wonder if this harsher than usual review was written while continuely comparing GLee to Smash. I think a lot of people need to be reminded that Glee got the same stellar reviews in their first season, comparing the two is a waste. Also I'm not really a pro at doing but I have to say, I know a lot of people who're totally into the Mercedes triangle. I guess Glee can expect anything from us normal people.
February 8th, 2012 12:17 AM
I agree completely with @AmyGirl.
I'm not saying that a Glee reviewer has to love the show and love every episode for me to enjoy the review, but I just feel like this particular reviewer doesn't understand the show. If I, as a viewer, wanted everything that I got from say, Mad Men, then I would hate hate hate Glee. But when watching Glee, you have to throw out a lot of things that make a good tv show.
I agree that Glee isn't as good as it used to be (the first 13 episodes were phenomenal), but Glee is different.
And to address Sam and Mercedes, they actually had more than just "holding hands for a few seconds" last season. Remember prom? Yeah -- that's where it began.
Please, please find a new reviewer.
February 7th, 2012 11:39 PM
glee has lost its course this season and after 2 strong episodes i thought it might be finding its footing but im not surprised that it isnt.