SuperIdole Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 12:40 PM
On the round table note: I know it's a detail, which has already been discussed a few episode ago, but am I the only one startled by Rufus attitude toward Ivy? Did he not heard what she said at the hospital? He never asked her any explanation! Instead of minding Dan's business, it would have been great to see him "investigate" a little and have a proper storyline which make sense...
SuperIdole Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 12:36 PM
I am not totally defending the writers because I agree that some storyline are way over the top (Royal family anyone? and other) but I would like to remind to all Chair fans who want to boycott the show because their "ship" is not represented as much as they wish (meaning every minute of every episode) that the show belong to the WRITERS and I would like to hope that they are free to write the relationships they want without being threaten by so-called fan.
but the way I see it, Chair not being endgame would be seen as a blasphemy and it make me sad to think the writers may only be leading toward this end because of all this pression. And now, when the time comes, I will not be able to stop thinking about it if (probably)Chair end up together, which is, may I add, not an idea I opposed to, if only it was because of the writers wish not the result of some pressure.
ALF
February 15th, 2012 12:26 PM
contd
4. Idk who Blair's character is anymore. No?
5.Boring. She should've ruined Blair's family. That would've been interesting.
6.The minder, def. Though the Chuck seductive info fishing was hilarious. BTW I was like "finally! Chuck's going to move on and go back to being a playboy" and it turns out to be yet another Blair centered action. Lame!
7.Lola. I like that she's doing all the things our GG characters should be: working an age appropriate job, going to school, thumbing her nose at her parents! Plus she didn't give into Nate right away! She could make a great "outsider" character the show needs.
ALF
February 15th, 2012 12:23 PM
I'm bored at work and I thought I'd do one of these myself:
1.Georginia's "Under my stewardship, Gossip Girl has been a shell of her former self." At least Safran knows he sucks?
2.Wish they had continued to do a Dair friendship (a real one, like season 4) but what's done is done. The kiss was
cute.The narrative surrounding them makes no sense though so the progression is messed up. Thankfully the creators have P/L to save this like E/L did for forever and a half.
3. Should be Blerena but they'll fight and make up. GG loves to string ships along so that leaves Chair/Derena somewhat safe. I'll go with Duck. Their tentative quasi friendship will be destroyed.
Zoran
February 15th, 2012 12:12 PM
But S is chosen in season 4 - this is D, and when she returned from Paris, and later before it was drugged. D got tired of waiting to determine S, and rude immigration Ben in the attic to D. N had no chance to duel with D over S, it was gambled away at the end of season 3.
Carly
February 15th, 2012 12:09 PM
Dair is the only reason I'm still around
Zoran
February 15th, 2012 11:56 AM
Anonymous you are right. D now does not care whether S would forgive him, but when the marriage of B is completed, all tickets will be on the table, then B will have to choose between D and C. I wonder who they will choose, and since B is a snob and not love the Brooklyn the answer itself imposes. Then D will remain alone and it will be too late to seek forgiveness from S.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 11:45 AM
@Zoran Serena could've made her choice last year if she was so in love with him. Dan clearly doesn't really care about her, I guess it's supposed to be similar to how Serena led him and Nate on last year.
Zoran
February 15th, 2012 11:41 AM
S is itself brought into this situation back in season 4 when Ben was chosen instead of D. But D is also a hypocrite because he did not immediately responded to the statement of love S. Unfortunately S leads futile battle for D, but the only thing in this moment she can do - no other choice.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 11:34 AM
@Zoran That's because they are half siblings, their parents are married and they share a half brother no matter how much the writers try to ignore it.
The show started off with Derena and then quickly changed into the Chair show with Derena in the background.
Dan doesn't really care about Serena, so it really doesn't matter if she forgives him or not.
Zoran
February 15th, 2012 11:30 AM
The whole series revolves around the S / D, C / B and N, which is now with one now with the other. B should not have save the surprise for S if it is already in love with D. It was supposed to continue where she left off in season 4 of the first kisses to the D. S is reasonably angry at B and D. But she would later forgive this fiasco B (she is her best friend, as in 1 season), but it will not do to D.
I do not understand why they constantly emphasize that the S and D half-brother and half sister when you have no genetic relationship to each other. And they themselves are no longer referred to.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 11:16 AM
@strawberry fields Yeah, she's a complete hypocrite.
geelightning Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 11:15 AM
@db - I'm really not saying that Serena doesn't care about anyone. I know that she does. I just don't like how the first thing Serena thought was that Blair kissed Dan for revenge. She always acts like the world is spinning around her. She stabbed her best friend in the back and then shipped herself away without even saying goodbye. She came back, got into a relationship with a decent guy and ruined it by lying about her past. Then she had a series of relationships with two teachers, a married guy and her best friend's ex (again). And when Dan actually wanted to be with her and waited for her for God knows how long, she decided to break the world record of being undecided. Now, out of nowhere, she decides that she still loves him and gets mad at Blair like it's Blair's fault that Dan finally moved on. I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 10:52 AM
@db Serena is self centered, especially after what happened with Nate in Season 1. Blair is also being selfish and was stupid for leading Serena on.
Serena also told Blair that it wasn't her in this episode.
@anon Blair kissed him back, she could've stopped it if she wanted to and she knew Serena was trying to find Dan.
Blair humiliated Louis, she constantly cheated on her fiancee with Chuck and then expects Louis to take it, she wanted to be in this loveless marriage, she has no 1 but herself to blame for this mess.
@Where's Waldorf It's actually very common. It's been done before, it's the whole girl meets bad/mysterious bad boy who has a dark, tragic past and she thinks that she can change him, 1 of them makes up excuses on why they wouldn't work together, the other pathetically pines for the other person.
It's been done time and time again, it's a cliche in romantic fantasies like Twilight.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 10:42 AM
@Zoran They still share a step sibling and their parents are still married no matter how much fans and the writers want to forget that. Season 3 pretty much ruined their relationship, compare how they are now to how they were in Seasons 1 and 2.
That's what makes it so awkward, why do you think Serena wanted her mom to be with Chuck's dad? It's so she could be with Dan in Season 1, but it didn't work out that way.
@Uncle Jackass The Vampire Diaries isn't nearly as bad. I'm tamer compared to the other whiny shippers.
@CC And because the entire show now revolves around relationship drama, everything else suffers in terms of story/plot/character development.
@someone Because the writers needed to string along the viewers and the fans complained about it being boring when in Season 3 when they did get together.
TFV168 Rank: Recurring Character
February 15th, 2012 10:02 AM
Gawd - enough with the Ship War! It's getting tiresome!
Anybody else think the Girl Scout in Chuck's paiting looks like Georgina? I do and it creeps me out!
Where's Waldorf
February 15th, 2012 9:32 AM
Chair ARE NOT a cliche!
Chuck and Blair are two of the most unique characters on TV. They had similar parents, so their inner complex is similar. Hence they have constant sexy power struggles with each other. Yet they are on opposite sides of Upper East Side. Blair is a society girl and Chuck a playboy. It's never done on tv Dair has been done. The bitch and loser (Seth and Summer, the O.C). The idea of best friends in love has been overused(Joey and Dawson)
Gossip Girl is meant to be unrealistically entertaining. Friends fall in love from having common interests all the time, its too close to home. We watch this show for its heightened sense of reality. Chair is out of this world. Their limits are beyond what real people will ever experience. They're supposed to be crazy! Its what this show is about. If I wanted to watch something that would give me an example of an everyday relationship I would watch OTH
chairlover
February 15th, 2012 8:49 AM
hi . . can anybody here please tell me what dis=d chuck say to dan's book agent . . please i could not figure out
Blairbee
February 15th, 2012 8:39 AM
@ Junior : good observation ! DAIR all the way ! Cuteness cuteness cuteness!!
kavern Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 8:08 AM
1. dorota's story about the beet field.
2. didn't like it. i just want them to be friends.
3. blerena. we all know that they are like sisters but one thing that always come between them is jealousy and boy troubles. steve was right. serena definitely didn't see this blow coming especially coming from blair.
4. yes and no. yes because this the blair that cares so much about serena whom she loves very much. no because i'm not used to blair being bossed around by the royals. the B we know does the bossing around.
5.getting boring. since when did gossip girl have a video chat with her tipsters?!
6. minder. just because i can't remember her name.
7. Lola. i like her ignorance about her UES relatives. Wouldn't it be surprising on her part to know that her cousin is serena van der woodsen. plus, she pretty.(but i'm curious what is her supposed mental illness? did they mentioned it already?)
8.
anon
February 15th, 2012 7:56 AM
honestly, i think dan is the one being selfish first he send the video to gossip girl, second, when they were in the car he explicitly said that he couldn't believe that chuck send the video in knowing that he's actually the one who send it. third, if he really loves blair he would have stopped himself from kissing blair since he knows she's married. lastly, he's the reason why blair is now stuck in a loveless marriage. cause i seriously believe that before the very moment of that gossip girl blast louis genuinely loves blair. but after that humiliation ,which humphrey caused, it was just the last straw.
db
February 15th, 2012 7:50 AM
@strawberry fields serena was not being selfish.. the reason why she thought the kiss was about her was because she didn't know blair's motivation for kissing dan. she thought it was for revenge since she first ask if blair didn't believe her about the video but since blair said its not, serena got confused and didn't know what else to think. the problem is that blair isn't being completely honest about how she feels about dan. but its obviously clear that serena was well aware that dan has feelings for blair.
also if she was self centered she wouldn't have taken the blame for sending the video if she only cares about herself.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 12:40 PM
On the round table note: I know it's a detail, which has already been discussed a few episode ago, but am I the only one startled by Rufus attitude toward Ivy? Did he not heard what she said at the hospital? He never asked her any explanation! Instead of minding Dan's business, it would have been great to see him "investigate" a little and have a proper storyline which make sense...
Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 12:36 PM
I am not totally defending the writers because I agree that some storyline are way over the top (Royal family anyone? and other) but I would like to remind to all Chair fans who want to boycott the show because their "ship" is not represented as much as they wish (meaning every minute of every episode) that the show belong to the WRITERS and I would like to hope that they are free to write the relationships they want without being threaten by so-called fan.
but the way I see it, Chair not being endgame would be seen as a blasphemy and it make me sad to think the writers may only be leading toward this end because of all this pression. And now, when the time comes, I will not be able to stop thinking about it if (probably)Chair end up together, which is, may I add, not an idea I opposed to, if only it was because of the writers wish not the result of some pressure.
February 15th, 2012 12:26 PM
contd
4. Idk who Blair's character is anymore. No?
5.Boring. She should've ruined Blair's family. That would've been interesting.
6.The minder, def. Though the Chuck seductive info fishing was hilarious. BTW I was like "finally! Chuck's going to move on and go back to being a playboy" and it turns out to be yet another Blair centered action. Lame!
7.Lola. I like that she's doing all the things our GG characters should be: working an age appropriate job, going to school, thumbing her nose at her parents! Plus she didn't give into Nate right away! She could make a great "outsider" character the show needs.
February 15th, 2012 12:23 PM
I'm bored at work and I thought I'd do one of these myself:
1.Georginia's "Under my stewardship, Gossip Girl has been a shell of her former self." At least Safran knows he sucks?
2.Wish they had continued to do a Dair friendship (a real one, like season 4) but what's done is done. The kiss was
cute.The narrative surrounding them makes no sense though so the progression is messed up. Thankfully the creators have P/L to save this like E/L did for forever and a half.
3. Should be Blerena but they'll fight and make up. GG loves to string ships along so that leaves Chair/Derena somewhat safe. I'll go with Duck. Their tentative quasi friendship will be destroyed.
February 15th, 2012 12:12 PM
But S is chosen in season 4 - this is D, and when she returned from Paris, and later before it was drugged. D got tired of waiting to determine S, and rude immigration Ben in the attic to D. N had no chance to duel with D over S, it was gambled away at the end of season 3.
February 15th, 2012 12:09 PM
Dair is the only reason I'm still around
February 15th, 2012 11:56 AM
Anonymous you are right. D now does not care whether S would forgive him, but when the marriage of B is completed, all tickets will be on the table, then B will have to choose between D and C. I wonder who they will choose, and since B is a snob and not love the Brooklyn the answer itself imposes. Then D will remain alone and it will be too late to seek forgiveness from S.
February 15th, 2012 11:45 AM
@Zoran Serena could've made her choice last year if she was so in love with him. Dan clearly doesn't really care about her, I guess it's supposed to be similar to how Serena led him and Nate on last year.
February 15th, 2012 11:41 AM
S is itself brought into this situation back in season 4 when Ben was chosen instead of D. But D is also a hypocrite because he did not immediately responded to the statement of love S. Unfortunately S leads futile battle for D, but the only thing in this moment she can do - no other choice.
February 15th, 2012 11:34 AM
@Zoran That's because they are half siblings, their parents are married and they share a half brother no matter how much the writers try to ignore it.
The show started off with Derena and then quickly changed into the Chair show with Derena in the background.
Dan doesn't really care about Serena, so it really doesn't matter if she forgives him or not.
February 15th, 2012 11:30 AM
The whole series revolves around the S / D, C / B and N, which is now with one now with the other. B should not have save the surprise for S if it is already in love with D. It was supposed to continue where she left off in season 4 of the first kisses to the D. S is reasonably angry at B and D. But she would later forgive this fiasco B (she is her best friend, as in 1 season), but it will not do to D.
I do not understand why they constantly emphasize that the S and D half-brother and half sister when you have no genetic relationship to each other. And they themselves are no longer referred to.
February 15th, 2012 11:16 AM
@strawberry fields Yeah, she's a complete hypocrite.
Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 11:15 AM
WOHOO DAIR!
Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 10:53 AM
@db - I'm really not saying that Serena doesn't care about anyone. I know that she does. I just don't like how the first thing Serena thought was that Blair kissed Dan for revenge. She always acts like the world is spinning around her. She stabbed her best friend in the back and then shipped herself away without even saying goodbye. She came back, got into a relationship with a decent guy and ruined it by lying about her past. Then she had a series of relationships with two teachers, a married guy and her best friend's ex (again). And when Dan actually wanted to be with her and waited for her for God knows how long, she decided to break the world record of being undecided. Now, out of nowhere, she decides that she still loves him and gets mad at Blair like it's Blair's fault that Dan finally moved on. I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it.
February 15th, 2012 10:52 AM
@db Serena is self centered, especially after what happened with Nate in Season 1. Blair is also being selfish and was stupid for leading Serena on.
Serena also told Blair that it wasn't her in this episode.
@anon Blair kissed him back, she could've stopped it if she wanted to and she knew Serena was trying to find Dan.
Blair humiliated Louis, she constantly cheated on her fiancee with Chuck and then expects Louis to take it, she wanted to be in this loveless marriage, she has no 1 but herself to blame for this mess.
@Where's Waldorf It's actually very common. It's been done before, it's the whole girl meets bad/mysterious bad boy who has a dark, tragic past and she thinks that she can change him, 1 of them makes up excuses on why they wouldn't work together, the other pathetically pines for the other person.
It's been done time and time again, it's a cliche in romantic fantasies like Twilight.
February 15th, 2012 10:42 AM
@Zoran They still share a step sibling and their parents are still married no matter how much fans and the writers want to forget that. Season 3 pretty much ruined their relationship, compare how they are now to how they were in Seasons 1 and 2.
That's what makes it so awkward, why do you think Serena wanted her mom to be with Chuck's dad? It's so she could be with Dan in Season 1, but it didn't work out that way.
@Uncle Jackass The Vampire Diaries isn't nearly as bad. I'm tamer compared to the other whiny shippers.
@CC And because the entire show now revolves around relationship drama, everything else suffers in terms of story/plot/character development.
@someone Because the writers needed to string along the viewers and the fans complained about it being boring when in Season 3 when they did get together.
Rank: Extra
February 15th, 2012 10:38 AM
DAIR DISGUST ME blair is just a w**** to me now
Rank: Recurring Character
February 15th, 2012 10:02 AM
Gawd - enough with the Ship War! It's getting tiresome!
Anybody else think the Girl Scout in Chuck's paiting looks like Georgina? I do and it creeps me out!
February 15th, 2012 9:32 AM
Chair ARE NOT a cliche!
Chuck and Blair are two of the most unique characters on TV. They had similar parents, so their inner complex is similar. Hence they have constant sexy power struggles with each other. Yet they are on opposite sides of Upper East Side. Blair is a society girl and Chuck a playboy. It's never done on tv Dair has been done. The bitch and loser (Seth and Summer, the O.C). The idea of best friends in love has been overused(Joey and Dawson)
Gossip Girl is meant to be unrealistically entertaining. Friends fall in love from having common interests all the time, its too close to home. We watch this show for its heightened sense of reality. Chair is out of this world. Their limits are beyond what real people will ever experience. They're supposed to be crazy! Its what this show is about. If I wanted to watch something that would give me an example of an everyday relationship I would watch OTH
February 15th, 2012 8:49 AM
hi . . can anybody here please tell me what dis=d chuck say to dan's book agent . . please i could not figure out
February 15th, 2012 8:39 AM
@ Junior : good observation ! DAIR all the way ! Cuteness cuteness cuteness!!
Rank: Guest Star
February 15th, 2012 8:08 AM
1. dorota's story about the beet field.
2. didn't like it. i just want them to be friends.
3. blerena. we all know that they are like sisters but one thing that always come between them is jealousy and boy troubles. steve was right. serena definitely didn't see this blow coming especially coming from blair.
4. yes and no. yes because this the blair that cares so much about serena whom she loves very much. no because i'm not used to blair being bossed around by the royals. the B we know does the bossing around.
5.getting boring. since when did gossip girl have a video chat with her tipsters?!
6. minder. just because i can't remember her name.
7. Lola. i like her ignorance about her UES relatives. Wouldn't it be surprising on her part to know that her cousin is serena van der woodsen. plus, she pretty.(but i'm curious what is her supposed mental illness? did they mentioned it already?)
8.
February 15th, 2012 7:56 AM
honestly, i think dan is the one being selfish first he send the video to gossip girl, second, when they were in the car he explicitly said that he couldn't believe that chuck send the video in knowing that he's actually the one who send it. third, if he really loves blair he would have stopped himself from kissing blair since he knows she's married. lastly, he's the reason why blair is now stuck in a loveless marriage. cause i seriously believe that before the very moment of that gossip girl blast louis genuinely loves blair. but after that humiliation ,which humphrey caused, it was just the last straw.
February 15th, 2012 7:50 AM
@strawberry fields serena was not being selfish.. the reason why she thought the kiss was about her was because she didn't know blair's motivation for kissing dan. she thought it was for revenge since she first ask if blair didn't believe her about the video but since blair said its not, serena got confused and didn't know what else to think. the problem is that blair isn't being completely honest about how she feels about dan. but its obviously clear that serena was well aware that dan has feelings for blair.
also if she was self centered she wouldn't have taken the blame for sending the video if she only cares about herself.
February 15th, 2012 7:38 AM
I forgot the symbolic object the "tie". Since 4x12 episode, the tie is used to bond them. It's more funny to thing about the word "tie" as signifier-signified (I hope I used the right translation "signifiant-signifié". It's linguistic and psychology concept). Like Chuck wearing is scarf, by the way, why is he wearing it ? He's not at the party.