Hawaii Five-0 Review: Archer Hits The Mark Comments (Page 4)
118 Comments
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 12:20 PM
@Zia - We all are complaining about things we don't like and it's ok to do it. That's what keeps us here. Sometimes it's one character, sometimes it's the plot, a scene or a crime.
I guess I was the only one enjoying the Subway commercial with Kamekona :)
jschoi
February 29th, 2012 12:10 PM
I had a few comments I was going to make about reality, but I came to my senses in time to stop. So all I'm to say is I believe that real police work is probably pretty routine and would make for really boring tv. I'm only hypothesizing as I don't know any police and fortunately have had no occasion to deal with them. Maybe it's more exciting than I think
Zia Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 12:07 PM
Martinelli....I think we all know, its not what is suppose to be done. Yes, you can say its wrong, but when it happens in every show, not just on H50, you can't expect to be shocked by how unrealistic it is. I'm sorry, but if it bothers people so much that they constantly bring it up, then there are other shows. I admit I'm guilty of complaining about a certain character, but then I realized that I'm not in control and constantly complaining is just futile. I still enjoyed the show.
Its like the product placements, yes the subway one was really obvious, but I was watching a season 3 repeat of Burn Notice and there was at least 3 close ups of a six pack and a single beer of Miller in the same episode. That was at least 2 yrs ago, before H50 was on the air. Yet people keep bringing up the subway and other products that are on the show. Its was is part of the modern day show, we may not like it, but its not going to stop.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 11:36 AM
@Jim - Of course I remember that scene and also remember Steve doing many horrible things. I also remember Danny blaming Steve for it, telling him he's an animal and he needs professional help (I actually have said these things before) and lately he's the one placing grenades in suspects hands, shooting people etc. So I know this is something we can expect from the writers but that doesn't mean we can't say it's wrong, does it? :):)
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 11:29 AM
@Kyra - I know this is a Tv show and not reality but even so, let's be honest for a moment and look back a bit. Danny shot a handcuffed man in the leg and got away with it, now Papa Caan did these things and I'm pretty sure there were many similar things in the past.
I'm not expecting this show to be 100% real but it should be close to it. It's ok to rough the suspect up a bit, but kidnapping ans shooting people are punishable acts for police officers too.
Jim Garner Rank: Staff Member
February 29th, 2012 11:29 AM
@martinelli,
Steve and Danny kidnapped a guy with a bag over his head and made him think that he was hanging off a cliff to get answers, and then arrested him when he confessed just a few weeks ago -- Like that wouldn't have been a law suite and tossed out for police misconduct.
I found Caan Sr doing it as a PI more believable since he is a civilian. But, it's an action show, so you have to expect that type of liberties with the "rules" as they were.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 11:04 AM
@Kyra....I agree. This isn't reality.
I wish we could do what TV shows do. Like get run over by a car and fall off a roof in the same day, then go off to do our training on a ship without any problem. I don't think, Star Wars, ET, James Bond, and Poltergeist movies are real either, but they draw millions of people to the theaters. I think there are very few sane people that think Mr. Spock is really a Vulcan. But its entertaining, so we go see them. How is TV any different, its all acting.
Kyra
February 29th, 2012 10:51 AM
@Martinelli, yes, he did not have jurisdiction, nor did he do it by the book.
And if this was reality, then he would have to pay the price, not to mention the courts releasing the suspects on legal grounds.
This is not reality though is it? You have not seen any other TV show do the same exact things and get away with it? All the things on the CSI shows are not real. All the things on the NCIS shows are not real. Cops in real life don't get away with this stuff. That's the magic of TV.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 10:24 AM
@Kyra - His helping techniques are a bit strange, don't you think? Kidnapping, handcuffing a "suspect" and placing him in a box is not exactly by the book, not to mention that he had no jurisdiction to do that.
Kyra
February 29th, 2012 10:24 AM
@jschoi, yes, my remote has a power off button also. Some people would rather threaten to leave and complain about every aspect then use it.
There were things I did not like either, like the Lori character, but I still watched the show and did not rip it apart at the seams. I love the 4 characters, and hopefully now they will have more time to expand on their lives, while solving crimes. This isn't Shakespeare, its a modern day crime drama, and yes comedic show, with four great lead actors, and supporting and recurring casts.
jschoi
February 29th, 2012 10:06 AM
@Kyra...Thank you, they have remote controls for a reason, to change the channel. No one is being forced to watch the show if they don't like it.
Next, this is not the old five 0, it's a different show, the dvds are available on amazon. My grandfather watched and he didn't think it was that great.
Kyra
February 29th, 2012 9:55 AM
Wow! If I hated a show so much that I would constantly come on this site and rip it apart, I think I would not bother and just not watch it. Confess, you are Castle or Smash fans right?
Of course James Caan had a big part in this episode, he's a famous actor and his son is one of the lead characters. Why is it that an ex-cop with years of experience and a close knowledge of the victim and family would not be allowed to help the team out, and even point them in the right direction?
We learn from our elders, or do you just stick them in a home and forget?
This is a great show. If they had nothing but blood, guts, and ninja fights then I don't think it would be on network TV, it would be on cable. I like the humor episodes, not all the time, but there has not been enough this season. Leave Danny alone, yes he went too far, but his daughter was kidnapped, you would be a little paranoid too.
Helen
February 29th, 2012 5:50 AM
I agree with Kelly - This show is so silly now, I can't stand it! "visitors" all tell Steve and Danny how to do their job, who is the bad guy, and then solves the case for them. Steve is totally out of control like a vigilante - no search warrants, no Miranda rights, anything goes! And what kind of expert is Steve questioning Danny about his personal life? Danny has become a ridiculous character also - telling his 8 year old daughter about what a 10 year old boy really wants and that he is evil! He offers nothing to the show. I liked James Caan in "Vegas" but he was so silly last night leading Steve and Danny around like he was in charge, even interrogating suspects. When you have such inferior writing like this show has, it doesn't matter who the guest stars are. Goodbye H50 - I'll remember Jack Lord's great show!
kelly
February 29th, 2012 4:10 AM
I don't mind if we have lighthearted moments once they are handled well. 2.18 was just forced silly dialogue with an extremely annoying character added. I found nothing funny or entertaining about it at all and at times it was embarassingly bad. The pace was slow and plodding with the same predictable formula. Danny is becoming more annoying and his comments to Gracie were just extreme. Also the comment about "he gave you his daughter" was just another example of how sexist this show is becoming.
I hope this show gets back to how it used to be. Fast paced action, interesting plots and great believable friendships between the team. Hopefully the NCIS episodes will be better. I'm actually wishing for the return of Wo Fat again and even Joe.
azziria
February 29th, 2012 3:23 AM
Well, I loved this episode, it's good to have a couple of lighthearted episodes after all we - and the characters - have been put through. We'll get back to the intensity and angst soon enough, I guess with the NCIS: LA crossovers and the finale (given what Peter Lenkov has been hinting about that being even more out there than the S1 finale).
I think last season they balanced the humor and the intensity better - this season they've gone too far one way, and now swung back a long way in the opposite direction to counterbalance that.
I have no problem with Tony Archer as a recurring character, it's not as if he'd appear very often, CBS can't afford him.
John
February 29th, 2012 1:48 AM
I throughly enjoyed the addition of James Caan. And I hope he has a recurring role. It added a much needed flare to the show and with the way they ended this episode it appears a few more shows are probably in the works. Go James
Linda
February 29th, 2012 12:00 AM
Pretty good episode.I enjoyed the banter between Steve, Danny and Tony, but not sure I'd want Tony as a recurring character.
Blue is not the only colour Steve looks good wearing - his green shirt was great too !!
Daddy Danno is becoming a tad overbearing,I think. I understand parental concern, but he's going to give his poor kid a complex.
The next two weeks are repeats, and just six new episodes left. I am so ready for a Steve-centric episode.
CroLova
February 28th, 2012 10:26 PM
I saw the nod to the father/son when Danny snuck up on Tony and said something about you didn't expect that old man, did ya? but it was a funny episode!!
Zia Rank: Regular Character
February 28th, 2012 9:03 PM
Two episodes of fun, carguments, and bromance is not a lot considering that we have had very little, that has been funny, in the previous 16 episodes. This is what sold the show. I agree the writing prior to this month with a couple of exceptions was not the greatest as far as the plots, but they have improved on that. Let us have some fun, you'll get your suspense and drama, they have to mix it up. If I wanted Cops or Law and Order, thats what I would watch. This show is great, and the last month is what I'm going to keep on my DVR to get through the summer until season 3.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
February 28th, 2012 8:58 PM
I'm always wanting more Chin and Kono. I have since last season and stated so all along. Since December, we have been getting more of each. Kono standing her ground in the last episode, Chin taking on the Russians. Each of them has been with Steve on various suspect captures, or investigations out of the office. Danny has been getting a lot in the last 3-4 episodes, so they are incorporating them more, especially now that there are 4 again, there will be more time. But you are not going to get each one of them a lot in every episode, there is not enough time. The only one that is going to get a lot in every episode is Steve, and thats because he is the lead character.
walter Rank: Guest Star
February 28th, 2012 6:29 PM
Very enjoyable change of pace episode. Loved James Caan's one liners: 5-What?, McGruff. Dennis Miller was the latest "now you see him, now you don't" guest star gone before the opening theme but at least he got to do his schtick routine. The episode also featured the weekly "Steve going over the top" routine times four. Instead of issuing a BOLO to HPD, he speeds off on a high speed pursuit (notice Max was not strapped in). He tells the poor security guard who was locked in a bait locker to get lost(if not kidnapping at least unlawful detention). He tosses a tear gas canister into the RV without giving the guy a chance to surrender peacefully. He allows a civilian to interrogate a suspect in custody(and assault him). Just nitpicking I love the show.
@martinelli... I have post my comment on your blog Think our comments are alike about this episode!
I don't want that this show will turn in a comedy-cop show the focus is to much on the funny McDanno and carguments scene's why not a cargument with Danny/Chin or Steve/Kono for a change. I can take the funny scene's if we have at least a good crime case to solve and I like a backstory that carries throughout the season like we had in season one.Seems to me the only one who has a SL this season is Steve the other 3 main characters not sadly.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 28th, 2012 5:37 PM
One Caan is more than enough.
Danny Barker
February 28th, 2012 5:15 PM
I thought it was realy good but I think one Caan is enough.
@jschoi ...I agree with you OK for one time but please not a recurring role for James Caan we just have or core 4 back just focus only on them for the rest of the season!
Danny Williams: Sinead O'Connor called, she wants her hairstyle back.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 12:20 PM
@Zia - We all are complaining about things we don't like and it's ok to do it. That's what keeps us here. Sometimes it's one character, sometimes it's the plot, a scene or a crime.
I guess I was the only one enjoying the Subway commercial with Kamekona :)
February 29th, 2012 12:10 PM
I had a few comments I was going to make about reality, but I came to my senses in time to stop. So all I'm to say is I believe that real police work is probably pretty routine and would make for really boring tv. I'm only hypothesizing as I don't know any police and fortunately have had no occasion to deal with them. Maybe it's more exciting than I think
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 12:07 PM
Martinelli....I think we all know, its not what is suppose to be done. Yes, you can say its wrong, but when it happens in every show, not just on H50, you can't expect to be shocked by how unrealistic it is. I'm sorry, but if it bothers people so much that they constantly bring it up, then there are other shows. I admit I'm guilty of complaining about a certain character, but then I realized that I'm not in control and constantly complaining is just futile. I still enjoyed the show.
Its like the product placements, yes the subway one was really obvious, but I was watching a season 3 repeat of Burn Notice and there was at least 3 close ups of a six pack and a single beer of Miller in the same episode. That was at least 2 yrs ago, before H50 was on the air. Yet people keep bringing up the subway and other products that are on the show. Its was is part of the modern day show, we may not like it, but its not going to stop.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 11:36 AM
@Jim - Of course I remember that scene and also remember Steve doing many horrible things. I also remember Danny blaming Steve for it, telling him he's an animal and he needs professional help (I actually have said these things before) and lately he's the one placing grenades in suspects hands, shooting people etc. So I know this is something we can expect from the writers but that doesn't mean we can't say it's wrong, does it? :):)
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 11:29 AM
@Kyra - I know this is a Tv show and not reality but even so, let's be honest for a moment and look back a bit. Danny shot a handcuffed man in the leg and got away with it, now Papa Caan did these things and I'm pretty sure there were many similar things in the past.
I'm not expecting this show to be 100% real but it should be close to it. It's ok to rough the suspect up a bit, but kidnapping ans shooting people are punishable acts for police officers too.
Rank: Staff Member
February 29th, 2012 11:29 AM
@martinelli,
Steve and Danny kidnapped a guy with a bag over his head and made him think that he was hanging off a cliff to get answers, and then arrested him when he confessed just a few weeks ago -- Like that wouldn't have been a law suite and tossed out for police misconduct.
I found Caan Sr doing it as a PI more believable since he is a civilian. But, it's an action show, so you have to expect that type of liberties with the "rules" as they were.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 11:04 AM
@Kyra....I agree. This isn't reality.
I wish we could do what TV shows do. Like get run over by a car and fall off a roof in the same day, then go off to do our training on a ship without any problem. I don't think, Star Wars, ET, James Bond, and Poltergeist movies are real either, but they draw millions of people to the theaters. I think there are very few sane people that think Mr. Spock is really a Vulcan. But its entertaining, so we go see them. How is TV any different, its all acting.
February 29th, 2012 10:51 AM
@Martinelli, yes, he did not have jurisdiction, nor did he do it by the book.
And if this was reality, then he would have to pay the price, not to mention the courts releasing the suspects on legal grounds.
This is not reality though is it? You have not seen any other TV show do the same exact things and get away with it? All the things on the CSI shows are not real. All the things on the NCIS shows are not real. Cops in real life don't get away with this stuff. That's the magic of TV.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 10:24 AM
@Kyra - His helping techniques are a bit strange, don't you think? Kidnapping, handcuffing a "suspect" and placing him in a box is not exactly by the book, not to mention that he had no jurisdiction to do that.
February 29th, 2012 10:24 AM
@jschoi, yes, my remote has a power off button also. Some people would rather threaten to leave and complain about every aspect then use it.
There were things I did not like either, like the Lori character, but I still watched the show and did not rip it apart at the seams. I love the 4 characters, and hopefully now they will have more time to expand on their lives, while solving crimes. This isn't Shakespeare, its a modern day crime drama, and yes comedic show, with four great lead actors, and supporting and recurring casts.
February 29th, 2012 10:06 AM
@Kyra...Thank you, they have remote controls for a reason, to change the channel. No one is being forced to watch the show if they don't like it.
Next, this is not the old five 0, it's a different show, the dvds are available on amazon. My grandfather watched and he didn't think it was that great.
February 29th, 2012 9:55 AM
Wow! If I hated a show so much that I would constantly come on this site and rip it apart, I think I would not bother and just not watch it. Confess, you are Castle or Smash fans right?
Of course James Caan had a big part in this episode, he's a famous actor and his son is one of the lead characters. Why is it that an ex-cop with years of experience and a close knowledge of the victim and family would not be allowed to help the team out, and even point them in the right direction?
We learn from our elders, or do you just stick them in a home and forget?
This is a great show. If they had nothing but blood, guts, and ninja fights then I don't think it would be on network TV, it would be on cable. I like the humor episodes, not all the time, but there has not been enough this season. Leave Danny alone, yes he went too far, but his daughter was kidnapped, you would be a little paranoid too.
February 29th, 2012 5:50 AM
I agree with Kelly - This show is so silly now, I can't stand it! "visitors" all tell Steve and Danny how to do their job, who is the bad guy, and then solves the case for them. Steve is totally out of control like a vigilante - no search warrants, no Miranda rights, anything goes! And what kind of expert is Steve questioning Danny about his personal life? Danny has become a ridiculous character also - telling his 8 year old daughter about what a 10 year old boy really wants and that he is evil! He offers nothing to the show. I liked James Caan in "Vegas" but he was so silly last night leading Steve and Danny around like he was in charge, even interrogating suspects. When you have such inferior writing like this show has, it doesn't matter who the guest stars are. Goodbye H50 - I'll remember Jack Lord's great show!
February 29th, 2012 4:10 AM
I don't mind if we have lighthearted moments once they are handled well. 2.18 was just forced silly dialogue with an extremely annoying character added. I found nothing funny or entertaining about it at all and at times it was embarassingly bad. The pace was slow and plodding with the same predictable formula. Danny is becoming more annoying and his comments to Gracie were just extreme. Also the comment about "he gave you his daughter" was just another example of how sexist this show is becoming.
I hope this show gets back to how it used to be. Fast paced action, interesting plots and great believable friendships between the team. Hopefully the NCIS episodes will be better. I'm actually wishing for the return of Wo Fat again and even Joe.
February 29th, 2012 3:23 AM
Well, I loved this episode, it's good to have a couple of lighthearted episodes after all we - and the characters - have been put through. We'll get back to the intensity and angst soon enough, I guess with the NCIS: LA crossovers and the finale (given what Peter Lenkov has been hinting about that being even more out there than the S1 finale).
I think last season they balanced the humor and the intensity better - this season they've gone too far one way, and now swung back a long way in the opposite direction to counterbalance that.
I have no problem with Tony Archer as a recurring character, it's not as if he'd appear very often, CBS can't afford him.
February 29th, 2012 1:48 AM
I throughly enjoyed the addition of James Caan. And I hope he has a recurring role. It added a much needed flare to the show and with the way they ended this episode it appears a few more shows are probably in the works. Go James
February 29th, 2012 12:00 AM
Pretty good episode.I enjoyed the banter between Steve, Danny and Tony, but not sure I'd want Tony as a recurring character.
Blue is not the only colour Steve looks good wearing - his green shirt was great too !!
Daddy Danno is becoming a tad overbearing,I think. I understand parental concern, but he's going to give his poor kid a complex.
The next two weeks are repeats, and just six new episodes left. I am so ready for a Steve-centric episode.
February 28th, 2012 10:26 PM
I saw the nod to the father/son when Danny snuck up on Tony and said something about you didn't expect that old man, did ya? but it was a funny episode!!
Rank: Regular Character
February 28th, 2012 9:03 PM
Two episodes of fun, carguments, and bromance is not a lot considering that we have had very little, that has been funny, in the previous 16 episodes. This is what sold the show. I agree the writing prior to this month with a couple of exceptions was not the greatest as far as the plots, but they have improved on that. Let us have some fun, you'll get your suspense and drama, they have to mix it up. If I wanted Cops or Law and Order, thats what I would watch. This show is great, and the last month is what I'm going to keep on my DVR to get through the summer until season 3.
Rank: Regular Character
February 28th, 2012 8:58 PM
I'm always wanting more Chin and Kono. I have since last season and stated so all along. Since December, we have been getting more of each. Kono standing her ground in the last episode, Chin taking on the Russians. Each of them has been with Steve on various suspect captures, or investigations out of the office. Danny has been getting a lot in the last 3-4 episodes, so they are incorporating them more, especially now that there are 4 again, there will be more time. But you are not going to get each one of them a lot in every episode, there is not enough time. The only one that is going to get a lot in every episode is Steve, and thats because he is the lead character.
Rank: Guest Star
February 28th, 2012 6:29 PM
Very enjoyable change of pace episode. Loved James Caan's one liners: 5-What?, McGruff. Dennis Miller was the latest "now you see him, now you don't" guest star gone before the opening theme but at least he got to do his schtick routine. The episode also featured the weekly "Steve going over the top" routine times four. Instead of issuing a BOLO to HPD, he speeds off on a high speed pursuit (notice Max was not strapped in). He tells the poor security guard who was locked in a bait locker to get lost(if not kidnapping at least unlawful detention). He tosses a tear gas canister into the RV without giving the guy a chance to surrender peacefully. He allows a civilian to interrogate a suspect in custody(and assault him). Just nitpicking I love the show.
Rank: Guest Star
February 28th, 2012 6:22 PM
@martinelli... I have post my comment on your blog Think our comments are alike about this episode!
I don't want that this show will turn in a comedy-cop show the focus is to much on the funny McDanno and carguments scene's why not a cargument with Danny/Chin or Steve/Kono for a change. I can take the funny scene's if we have at least a good crime case to solve and I like a backstory that carries throughout the season like we had in season one.Seems to me the only one who has a SL this season is Steve the other 3 main characters not sadly.
Rank: Regular Character
February 28th, 2012 5:37 PM
One Caan is more than enough.
February 28th, 2012 5:15 PM
I thought it was realy good but I think one Caan is enough.
Rank: Guest Star
February 28th, 2012 3:20 PM
@martinelli...OK will try it again!
@jschoi ...I agree with you OK for one time but please not a recurring role for James Caan we just have or core 4 back just focus only on them for the rest of the season!