Glee Review: From Past to Prologue Comments (Page 3)
74 Comments
Michael
April 18th, 2012 4:26 PM
CRINGE!!!! Poor Glee. It was a great idea season 1. And now they can only do introduction monologues for new characters and dramatic moments that come out of left field. The musical numbers are cringeworth...the story telling is poor. It is sad. So sad.
Amber H
April 18th, 2012 2:47 PM
@marly:
I never said it was character development. I simply pointed out that, contrary to what Matt said about her dad never being mentioned at all, he actually was.
Also, I'm slightly curious as to why another storyline that was touched on in the episode wasn't brought up at all in this review: Wade/Unique. Personally, I enjoyed it.
DeAnn
April 18th, 2012 2:31 PM
BTW, it makes perfect sense for a Midwestern dentist not to be supportive of a singing career for his daughter. My parents, (a former teacher who negotiated teacher contracts for the union and a nurse) were horrified when I changed my major from nursing school to theater and history. They felt, as many practical Midwesterners do, that jobs in the arts are tremendously difficult to come by, and therefore you should have a more practical career path and do something in the arts as a hobby. I went on to graduate school to get a master's degree in writing, and I've worked as an editor and a journalist my whole life, so I've got to say that they were right, but then, I didn't have the talent of these kids, either.
Blu Rank: Regular Character
April 18th, 2012 2:29 PM
I agree with the review. Completely. The entire senior thing has been confusing for a while. I was under the impression from the beginning of this season that Puck, Rachel, Quinn, Finn, and Kurt were the seniors. Now its everyone? After seasons of focusing and sort of developing characters like Rachel, Finn, and Kurt while somehow making room for newbie Blaine they still neglected Mercedes, Tina, Mike etc. And now they'll be gone before we ever got the chance to know them. Stuff is sort of being wrapped in a pretty bow but we've been deprived of so much that its not nearly as satisfying as it should be. Samcedes action made me smile but the random character descriptions of her were off.same with Santana...just yes. I actually loved this episode but I concur with this review in its entirety.
Alleyo
April 18th, 2012 2:28 PM
Was that Neil Patrick Harris for two milliseconds in the beginning? Does anyone know the inside scoop behind that oh-so-brief appearance?
DeAnn
April 18th, 2012 2:25 PM
I think Murphy and Co made a decision to have certain characters be more fleshed out and have others in the background for now, and then focus on some of the other characters after graduation, or when a good storyline for them comes up.
Personally, I LOVED this episode, having been in what passed for Glee club at my high school in Iowa during the late 1970s (yes, we did disco songs, though many of us were more into rock bands like Styx, Rush, Journey and Foreigner)
Being from the Midwest, I know that having Alex show up in drag would have been a major deal back then and now, too. Though I loved Alex's turn as Unique, and I thought she did a fabulous job with the song and dance, I still think Jesse St James was perfectly within character to freak out about it,a nd realize that it might have a bad effect on their score.
Glee is a thrilling musical event that I watch with joy each week, and to be honest, I don't really feel that I need to know a lot about each of the characters in t
DeAnn
April 18th, 2012 2:12 PM
I think TV Fanatic needs a new critic, someone who actually likes Glee and watches it for the fun musical program that it is, and was always meant to be. Matt is looking for depth and things that this program doesn't have time to create and still produce song and dance numbers to showcase all that singing/dancing talent each week. Take away the time for commercial breaks, and you've got roughly 22 minutes to make a whole show, with musical numbers, dramatic/comedic scenes, etc. That's not a lot of time to achieve a huge backstory for each and every character every week, especially "B-list" or secondary characters like Mercedes and Sam, or Brittany and Santana. When the main cast was on "Inside the Actors Studio" they had Jane Lynch, Matt, Finn, Rachel, Kurt and Ryan Murphy. While I think Diana Agron should have been there, (she's been making the rounds on talk shows) I think Murphy and Co made a decision to have certain characters be more fleshed out and have others in the background f
Bethany
April 18th, 2012 1:33 PM
I agree with much of what you've said here. However, I'd like to point out that Mercedes mentioned her father was a dentist (though only in passing) I believe last season? But it was a fact we knew. And they said that Brittany had the idea and Sue helped to apply for Santana to the school. Kids getting into college without writing their own application is ridiculous, but it's been done on TV before. You make many good points but be sure to check over all your facts.
@Leroy: I know it was Brittany's idea... but WTF? Santana got a full scholarship without any participation in the application process?!?
HeatherLuise
April 18th, 2012 1:16 PM
let me entertin you
isn´t that a Hollywood motto?
Glee is entertaining.
OK,Finn singing a Bee Ges song was not the best idea, but so what.
Mercedes did great, Unique was a outstanding
I gave up looking for a continuing story, and I found out I don´t need one.
What I need is something entertaining that gets me into a good mood after a hard day ar work.
That is what Glee does - and tha is enough for me.
Pat
April 18th, 2012 1:02 PM
I dislike the reason that Mercedes and Kurt told Unique is because it is Ohio. The real reason he shouldn't do it is because he is part of a team and in a team an individual is not important but the group is. When I was in band and I wore the uniform for team unity but when I dressed myself I wore my goth make-up and dressed in all in black (I'm over this phase now).
My point is, Unique is being selfish, he can dress that way when he performs solo or in his personal life but when he is in glee club he should do what is best for the group.
Leroy
April 18th, 2012 12:52 PM
And Santana received a full cheerleading scholarship? I mean, did she even apply to Louisville?!? Where did that come from?
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that it was Brittany's idea.
Tammy
April 18th, 2012 12:49 PM
I agree with Bobby. Enjoy it for what it is and if you're so tired of not seeing what you think you want to see - don't watch! Jeez - week after week it's the same complaints. If I hated a show as much as the majority of the people who post here seem to - I wouldn't be watching!
DCB
April 18th, 2012 12:14 PM
(cntd) but really, move along now...
Note to WEBMASTER: Can we get a character count-down counter please? Maybe a truncation warning of some kind, please?
DCB
April 18th, 2012 12:11 PM
It was great to see Alex! What a voice!
I thought I would enjoy this episode more than I did. The music brought about too many flashbacks of an era that I usually try to forget. I can hear one disco song or two and it doesn't bother me so much, but an entire episode of the stuff? A little too much, maybe. I hated Disco win it was unavoidable in the 70's, it has not improved much over the years.
Can't say I'm a fan of the one-artist or one-genre music, I much prefer a clever mix.
As far as the contrived/forced storyline...meh.
IMO they are wasting the Glee Project kids. Sam had a part, for about a nano-second, Damien MIA, Sure, Alex got a great showcase, but will he be back for more? AND Lindsey, who absolutely NAILED her performance as Harmony and that Song/Dance 'Anything Goes' is a much better talent than many of the others in the cast... I wouldn't mind at all letting some of the aging characters go for some fresh voices... Quinn, Finch, Rachael, It was nice, but really, move
MrWriteSF Rank: Guest Star
April 18th, 2012 11:22 AM
As much as I enjoyed the music in this episode, I have to agree with the reviewer and other posters; the characters have lost their depth and backstory because of the "_________" of the week" format that's been taking up most of this season. The music should be intergrated into the story, not the other way around. The only story arc that persists is the Finchel thing; otherwise, it's "sing/dance, sing/dance, *school bell rings* annnnnnnnd scene."
Couldn't agree with you more this week Matt, i'm just surprised you didn't mention Glee project winner Alex aka "Unique".
Daniela
April 18th, 2012 11:01 AM
the episode was disco-fabu,I loved that Fin has decided his future as a actor and go to new york with Rachel,it was good that Brittney wants to help Santana to be famous but at a lesbionic sex tape of them is so totally not the best thing to do, Santana should go to that cheerleading Collage so she learns to a better person and its sad that her relationship at distance with Brittney may not work who knows.well I like so have to say that Jesse St James is acting like miserable and depressed jerk with his BFF'S of Vocal Adrenaline and Wade, okay he is mouning and sad for Rachel dummping him over Finn, but does so not have take his anger and suffering on his best friends whom are like his second family, he should stoping weepning,naging and bitching around and move one with his life, like I always say don't get mad and even. I hope he still appears in rest of the glee season 3 episode.
Teri Valdez
April 18th, 2012 9:25 AM
I am sooo going to get the CD!
Tootz
April 18th, 2012 8:48 AM
@bobby cos not everybody enjoys mindless 'entertainment', some want their entertainment to be well written, consistent, thought provoking, original etc. etc. (which Glee HAS been in the past, although not too much lately).
If Glee entertains you then good for you, not everyone HAS to enjoy it cos you do though and not everyone has to sing it's praises (if people being honest about their thoughts hurts YOUR opinion of things then maybe you should rethink visiting forums etc. where people do just that).
bobby
April 18th, 2012 8:31 AM
Why can't people just enjoy the episode don't think to much into all the time always have to say negative things.
Lunill
April 18th, 2012 6:50 AM
There was just nothing actually HAPPENING in this episode (and some other episodes)... I thought I liked Sebastian Smythe because he is hot, but now I know it was because there was actually a PLOT and potential for some drama... well, that obviously went to hell : /
What I liked in this episode was Blaine's excitement about disco (it was sweet) and Jessie freaking out. But that's not really enough...
@Claire: As I said above, my question is: Why can't it be a show where music is used to enhance the characters? As opposed to being a show where music is ALL we know about the characters?
Yes, I would absolutely love to see an actual well-rounded character, who sings in glee club like any of the millions who do so in real life, but who also has other life goals and dreams and looks to pursue those after high school. That person can still love to sing, but he/she would be a depiction of a realistic high school student, who is rounded enough where we see him/her as more than a song/Theme-of-the-Week-spewing caricature.
whateva
April 18th, 2012 6:04 AM
I do recall her saying her dad was a dentist when Sue try to stereotype her when Sue divided the glee club.
I also agree with the descriptions Will made except maybe switch Mercedes and Santanna's as imo Mercedes is very lazy compare to the women she aspires to be.
Also any person in the industry knows actors lack of self esteem hence why it easier to play other people as if you are so comfortable in your own skin, you can not put yourself another. No great actor has great self esteem that don't make sense and why most of them are shy.
marly
April 18th, 2012 2:50 AM
@Amber H yeah, because bringing up her dad's a dentist once, 2 seasons ago, and never addressing anything else about her life at all, that's real character development. Matt makes a good point- what do we know about Artie, Tina, Mercedes etc? All they do is sing (and rarely). Do they have lives? why is it so difficult to create backstories, instead of randomly being like, oh yeah, and fyi, mercedes dad isn't a dentist. and @Claire- maybe if glee changed at least some of the bad things about their show, Matt would stop complaining about them. Or, there's that other word for what he does...right, reviewing
April 18th, 2012 4:26 PM
CRINGE!!!! Poor Glee. It was a great idea season 1. And now they can only do introduction monologues for new characters and dramatic moments that come out of left field. The musical numbers are cringeworth...the story telling is poor. It is sad. So sad.
April 18th, 2012 2:47 PM
@marly:
I never said it was character development. I simply pointed out that, contrary to what Matt said about her dad never being mentioned at all, he actually was.
Also, I'm slightly curious as to why another storyline that was touched on in the episode wasn't brought up at all in this review: Wade/Unique. Personally, I enjoyed it.
April 18th, 2012 2:31 PM
BTW, it makes perfect sense for a Midwestern dentist not to be supportive of a singing career for his daughter. My parents, (a former teacher who negotiated teacher contracts for the union and a nurse) were horrified when I changed my major from nursing school to theater and history. They felt, as many practical Midwesterners do, that jobs in the arts are tremendously difficult to come by, and therefore you should have a more practical career path and do something in the arts as a hobby. I went on to graduate school to get a master's degree in writing, and I've worked as an editor and a journalist my whole life, so I've got to say that they were right, but then, I didn't have the talent of these kids, either.
Rank: Regular Character
April 18th, 2012 2:29 PM
I agree with the review. Completely. The entire senior thing has been confusing for a while. I was under the impression from the beginning of this season that Puck, Rachel, Quinn, Finn, and Kurt were the seniors. Now its everyone? After seasons of focusing and sort of developing characters like Rachel, Finn, and Kurt while somehow making room for newbie Blaine they still neglected Mercedes, Tina, Mike etc. And now they'll be gone before we ever got the chance to know them. Stuff is sort of being wrapped in a pretty bow but we've been deprived of so much that its not nearly as satisfying as it should be. Samcedes action made me smile but the random character descriptions of her were off.same with Santana...just yes. I actually loved this episode but I concur with this review in its entirety.
April 18th, 2012 2:28 PM
Was that Neil Patrick Harris for two milliseconds in the beginning? Does anyone know the inside scoop behind that oh-so-brief appearance?
April 18th, 2012 2:25 PM
I think Murphy and Co made a decision to have certain characters be more fleshed out and have others in the background for now, and then focus on some of the other characters after graduation, or when a good storyline for them comes up.
Personally, I LOVED this episode, having been in what passed for Glee club at my high school in Iowa during the late 1970s (yes, we did disco songs, though many of us were more into rock bands like Styx, Rush, Journey and Foreigner)
Being from the Midwest, I know that having Alex show up in drag would have been a major deal back then and now, too. Though I loved Alex's turn as Unique, and I thought she did a fabulous job with the song and dance, I still think Jesse St James was perfectly within character to freak out about it,a nd realize that it might have a bad effect on their score.
Glee is a thrilling musical event that I watch with joy each week, and to be honest, I don't really feel that I need to know a lot about each of the characters in t
April 18th, 2012 2:12 PM
I think TV Fanatic needs a new critic, someone who actually likes Glee and watches it for the fun musical program that it is, and was always meant to be. Matt is looking for depth and things that this program doesn't have time to create and still produce song and dance numbers to showcase all that singing/dancing talent each week. Take away the time for commercial breaks, and you've got roughly 22 minutes to make a whole show, with musical numbers, dramatic/comedic scenes, etc. That's not a lot of time to achieve a huge backstory for each and every character every week, especially "B-list" or secondary characters like Mercedes and Sam, or Brittany and Santana. When the main cast was on "Inside the Actors Studio" they had Jane Lynch, Matt, Finn, Rachel, Kurt and Ryan Murphy. While I think Diana Agron should have been there, (she's been making the rounds on talk shows) I think Murphy and Co made a decision to have certain characters be more fleshed out and have others in the background f
April 18th, 2012 1:33 PM
I agree with much of what you've said here. However, I'd like to point out that Mercedes mentioned her father was a dentist (though only in passing) I believe last season? But it was a fact we knew. And they said that Brittany had the idea and Sue helped to apply for Santana to the school. Kids getting into college without writing their own application is ridiculous, but it's been done on TV before. You make many good points but be sure to check over all your facts.
Rank: Staff Member
April 18th, 2012 1:23 PM
@Leroy: I know it was Brittany's idea... but WTF? Santana got a full scholarship without any participation in the application process?!?
April 18th, 2012 1:16 PM
let me entertin you
isn´t that a Hollywood motto?
Glee is entertaining.
OK,Finn singing a Bee Ges song was not the best idea, but so what.
Mercedes did great, Unique was a outstanding
I gave up looking for a continuing story, and I found out I don´t need one.
What I need is something entertaining that gets me into a good mood after a hard day ar work.
That is what Glee does - and tha is enough for me.
April 18th, 2012 1:02 PM
I dislike the reason that Mercedes and Kurt told Unique is because it is Ohio. The real reason he shouldn't do it is because he is part of a team and in a team an individual is not important but the group is. When I was in band and I wore the uniform for team unity but when I dressed myself I wore my goth make-up and dressed in all in black (I'm over this phase now).
My point is, Unique is being selfish, he can dress that way when he performs solo or in his personal life but when he is in glee club he should do what is best for the group.
April 18th, 2012 12:52 PM
And Santana received a full cheerleading scholarship? I mean, did she even apply to Louisville?!? Where did that come from?
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that it was Brittany's idea.
April 18th, 2012 12:49 PM
I agree with Bobby. Enjoy it for what it is and if you're so tired of not seeing what you think you want to see - don't watch! Jeez - week after week it's the same complaints. If I hated a show as much as the majority of the people who post here seem to - I wouldn't be watching!
April 18th, 2012 12:14 PM
(cntd) but really, move along now...
Note to WEBMASTER: Can we get a character count-down counter please? Maybe a truncation warning of some kind, please?
April 18th, 2012 12:11 PM
It was great to see Alex! What a voice!
I thought I would enjoy this episode more than I did. The music brought about too many flashbacks of an era that I usually try to forget. I can hear one disco song or two and it doesn't bother me so much, but an entire episode of the stuff? A little too much, maybe. I hated Disco win it was unavoidable in the 70's, it has not improved much over the years.
Can't say I'm a fan of the one-artist or one-genre music, I much prefer a clever mix.
As far as the contrived/forced storyline...meh.
IMO they are wasting the Glee Project kids. Sam had a part, for about a nano-second, Damien MIA, Sure, Alex got a great showcase, but will he be back for more? AND Lindsey, who absolutely NAILED her performance as Harmony and that Song/Dance 'Anything Goes' is a much better talent than many of the others in the cast... I wouldn't mind at all letting some of the aging characters go for some fresh voices... Quinn, Finch, Rachael, It was nice, but really, move
Rank: Guest Star
April 18th, 2012 11:22 AM
As much as I enjoyed the music in this episode, I have to agree with the reviewer and other posters; the characters have lost their depth and backstory because of the "_________" of the week" format that's been taking up most of this season. The music should be intergrated into the story, not the other way around. The only story arc that persists is the Finchel thing; otherwise, it's "sing/dance, sing/dance, *school bell rings* annnnnnnnd scene."
Rank: Extra
April 18th, 2012 11:16 AM
Couldn't agree with you more this week Matt, i'm just surprised you didn't mention Glee project winner Alex aka "Unique".
April 18th, 2012 11:01 AM
the episode was disco-fabu,I loved that Fin has decided his future as a actor and go to new york with Rachel,it was good that Brittney wants to help Santana to be famous but at a lesbionic sex tape of them is so totally not the best thing to do, Santana should go to that cheerleading Collage so she learns to a better person and its sad that her relationship at distance with Brittney may not work who knows.well I like so have to say that Jesse St James is acting like miserable and depressed jerk with his BFF'S of Vocal Adrenaline and Wade, okay he is mouning and sad for Rachel dummping him over Finn, but does so not have take his anger and suffering on his best friends whom are like his second family, he should stoping weepning,naging and bitching around and move one with his life, like I always say don't get mad and even. I hope he still appears in rest of the glee season 3 episode.
April 18th, 2012 9:25 AM
I am sooo going to get the CD!
April 18th, 2012 8:48 AM
@bobby cos not everybody enjoys mindless 'entertainment', some want their entertainment to be well written, consistent, thought provoking, original etc. etc. (which Glee HAS been in the past, although not too much lately).
If Glee entertains you then good for you, not everyone HAS to enjoy it cos you do though and not everyone has to sing it's praises (if people being honest about their thoughts hurts YOUR opinion of things then maybe you should rethink visiting forums etc. where people do just that).
April 18th, 2012 8:31 AM
Why can't people just enjoy the episode don't think to much into all the time always have to say negative things.
April 18th, 2012 6:50 AM
There was just nothing actually HAPPENING in this episode (and some other episodes)... I thought I liked Sebastian Smythe because he is hot, but now I know it was because there was actually a PLOT and potential for some drama... well, that obviously went to hell : /
What I liked in this episode was Blaine's excitement about disco (it was sweet) and Jessie freaking out. But that's not really enough...
Rank: Staff Member
April 18th, 2012 6:26 AM
@Claire: As I said above, my question is: Why can't it be a show where music is used to enhance the characters? As opposed to being a show where music is ALL we know about the characters?
Yes, I would absolutely love to see an actual well-rounded character, who sings in glee club like any of the millions who do so in real life, but who also has other life goals and dreams and looks to pursue those after high school. That person can still love to sing, but he/she would be a depiction of a realistic high school student, who is rounded enough where we see him/her as more than a song/Theme-of-the-Week-spewing caricature.
April 18th, 2012 6:04 AM
I do recall her saying her dad was a dentist when Sue try to stereotype her when Sue divided the glee club.
I also agree with the descriptions Will made except maybe switch Mercedes and Santanna's as imo Mercedes is very lazy compare to the women she aspires to be.
Also any person in the industry knows actors lack of self esteem hence why it easier to play other people as if you are so comfortable in your own skin, you can not put yourself another. No great actor has great self esteem that don't make sense and why most of them are shy.
April 18th, 2012 2:50 AM
@Amber H yeah, because bringing up her dad's a dentist once, 2 seasons ago, and never addressing anything else about her life at all, that's real character development. Matt makes a good point- what do we know about Artie, Tina, Mercedes etc? All they do is sing (and rarely). Do they have lives? why is it so difficult to create backstories, instead of randomly being like, oh yeah, and fyi, mercedes dad isn't a dentist. and @Claire- maybe if glee changed at least some of the bad things about their show, Matt would stop complaining about them. Or, there's that other word for what he does...right, reviewing