So disappointed with TV Fanatic over this. I've usually appreciated the honest, quality reviews you provide. I had the utmost respect for the old reviewers for Glee and Community - even though they loved the show, they provided honest, critical assessments about what they viewed. I see no such critical thinking here. You only need to look to sites like Leaky News, Vulture, and even the Huffington post to find some worthwhile observations on this episode - they call out the seriously damaging themes this episode presented : devastation over safety in the name of "love" for one. They recognized and named the cheap tricks that all-but-destroyed five years of character development, and they lamented the sad portrayal of the characters that just might sink this show for good. I had hope that at least someone on the round table might have brought up some of these things, but it looks like I'll be reading my reviews elsewhere. This panel of blinded Chair shippers should consider a different l
Is Gossip Girl really Gossip Guy? She (or he) will never tell. We love her anyway. Or him. Whatever.
Predictions for the final season - Blair, Chuck and Nate will continue to build their empires, Chair will be on, from beginning to end, with no drama on their way (for a change), Chuck and Jack will take Bart down (I love that team up so much). I don't really care about anyone else. Except maybe Dan. It would be cool if he didn't turn into a jerk and went back to being friends with Blair. And Chuck too for that matter.
It kills me to say it, but I'm actually kind of glad this season is over. It had some great moments, but it's not the "GG" I loved for the first couple of seasons. I still hope the final 11 episodes will be great and the writers will give this show the ending it deserves.
Favourite quote/scene - "I'm all in" from Blair. I really hope this time she's done with being undecided. For good.
Did she make the right decision? Chair was endgame from season 1. There is no right or wrong here. I feel bad for Dan, because I actually liked Dair, but could they win against Chair? Never.
Derena barstool sex: hot or not? Not really.
Will Serena and Blair ever reconcile? Like most of the panel said, in reality - not a chance in hell. Let's face it, their frindship sucked most of the time. But on "GG" enything is possible.
Most surprising - none of the above actually. Tell me if I'm crazy, but I have a theory that Lily stayed with Bart to help Chuck take his evil dad down.
BJ
May 16th, 2012 7:50 AM
Hahaha that last monologue from Blair was epic. I didn't get over it. Woooo. I do hope Derena comes back with Chair as the endgame... with Dan having short hair. His dishevelled hair is too much I think. :/
ruha
May 16th, 2012 4:22 AM
Hahhaha! My grandparents have 6 people live-in help and hence the help happen to live in the poshest part of town. One's spelling, grammar, vocabulary, and taste in t-shirts (now, what kind of a garment is this) say quite a bit more than one's living in Manhattan.
C
May 16th, 2012 3:13 AM
courtney and christina hit the nail in with their answers for number 8. those would be the best outcomes. i don't think a derena endgame would result; lonely boy seems to have a lot of hate in him toward S and the UES in general. maybe lola will find someone new and more "normal" during her summer adventure? honestly serenate ALWAYS&FOREVER.
wish it had been damien on that train with S. revive the old plots!!
it makes me nervous they only have 11 episodes to sort everything out. will also miss these round tables :(
CrAZychicke
May 16th, 2012 2:29 AM
awful episode. blair could have had the decency to break up with dan instead of lying to his face. everything was handled horribly, and why another recycled storyline of the pilot? the show needed new storylines to keep it alive, that's why dair worked so well. it would have been nice not having chuck go back to the girl who as bart said made him bankrupt the comoany, even if chuck's intentions were good. I like chuck, and his face was so cute when blair stood by him, i just don't believe this crap about blair not loving dan... always will be team humphrey, but goodbye gg, no dair, do care.
Melvt
May 16th, 2012 1:32 AM
Honestly i think that Lily & Rufus Drama we all had it coming but i didnt expect Lily to Chose Bart Coldest Heart Bass Over Rufus but its drama anyway..
In Other Hand i Dont understand how Lola Can Be So stupid in team up with Ivy! i mean she got it all wrong cause she thinks Lily Was plotting against Her mother Poor Thing. And On top of that leaving Hottie sexy Nate Alone!
Serena will be Serena i think they will give her a very similar ending as they did with Marissa in The O.C. : Her character just went thru everything you can imagine so people got tired of it and just killed her.
Chair will always be my favorite thing in the whole show, cause eventually they always find the're way back.
Oh almost forgot... i stick with the Dan being GG cause he closed the laptop just when Serena Got There... he was an outsider all the time and he Knew a lot about most of the main characters even before he was introduced in the UES.
The Observer
May 16th, 2012 12:27 AM
Loving this theory about S doing everything she did at GG's request,mostly because I can't believe S would be such a bitch to Dan and Blair but also because it gave us her as a cokehead and now Dan can save her from going further down that path(I know it sounds dum but I'm a hardcore shipper)
Think about it
May 16th, 2012 12:01 AM
Jackie,
Chuck didn't ask her to sleep with Jack for the hotel. She made a choice although it was influenced by her deep feelings for him. I'm not saying it's any less horrible I'm just saying that's it's not as black and white as people make it seem. There were many variables at play here.
I think S slept with Dan as GGs request. That makes sense and the vid could be posted by GG when it will inflict the most damage.
anyoy
May 15th, 2012 11:19 PM
@Guest I couldn't agree more. Its so obvious that S did it for B. Why else would it show S asking GG that she'll do w/e GG wants. GG just wants to erase S from everyone else. Like someone else said, S is/has always been GG's biggest target and then S even stole the site from her. It makes COMPLETE sense that she did what she did for Blair and ALSO b/c she still loves Dan. Dan will realize this and Derena will join Chair for endgame.
anyoy
May 15th, 2012 11:15 PM
@Jackie, THANK YOU for actually understanding what love is and how disgusting Chair is. Seriously is this what GG is promoting as an epic love story, so f'ing pathetic.
twilight
May 15th, 2012 10:32 PM
Well change the channel jackie.
It's funny, GG didn't really go after Blair. Really she was going after S the whole time. Her main goal has always been to make S irrelevent. Her quote at the end that Serena VDW does not exist...wonder who gg will end up being. Her main target has always seemed to be Serena.
jackie
May 15th, 2012 10:14 PM
nothing against chair but if they want to show this relationship then go ahead but show it for what it is...a damaged hurtful relathionship between chuck and blair who love each other but always bring out the worst in each other...they can show them trying to work on it...but seriously dont call it an "epic love story" because thats just sad and pathetic.
jackie
May 15th, 2012 10:10 PM
any woman who goes back to a man who asked her to sleep with someone else for his hotel needs a LOT of THERAPY (i dont care what he said or did after that because NOTHING can ever make up for it!)....and ANYONE who calls their story an "epic love story" needs to look up the definition of both words, epic and love...lol...
Sadly, this kind of a story is all too common now a days..with women going back to men who abuse them (physically or psychologically) but whats worse is when stories like that are called "epic love stories"...all the shipping wars aside what is so surprising is that even the reveiwers of this website and many others call chair an "epic love story"...so does that mean that women should accept abuse as long as the man says he loves you while he is doing it??
nothing against chair but if they want to show this relationship then go ahead but show it for what it is...a damaged hurtful relathionship between chuck and blair who love each other but always bring out the wors
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May 15th, 2012 9:15 PM
Wow..The idea is amzing -> S did what she did in this season finale is because of GG's response to her plea..
I don't understand why S has to record the bar sex, this theory give me the answer.
After going through old posts in the Gossip girl site, S realizes Dan is the best. I hope in season6, the history of S via G will make Dan realize S is the best in his life too.
All S did in the show so far is believable to me. Unlike B, her actions were so pathetic this season.. The worst is that pact with god... still, she got everything she wants...
Leigh Raines Rank: Staff Member
May 15th, 2012 8:41 PM
whoever asked if the girls on table are rednecks- I'm from NY and live in Manhattan, precisely on the block where they shoot the Van der Woodsen apartment, but if we were from backcountry Bluebell Alabama who cares??? Also whoever said Serena stooped to the bar sex blackmail because it was probably an order from GG, this is an AMAZING theory and I'm totally on board. Also my answer to rating this finale got effed up so here it is: it mostly blew and was fairly depressing. But then again they were cleaning up after a season of Safran butchering the show to death so they did what they could in one hour!
Tanner1511 Rank: Recurring Character
May 15th, 2012 8:37 PM
I swear to god if Nate and Serena get back together I will forever HATE this show!! All I want is Chair and Derena endgame. If we really want to go back to the awesomeness of season 1 that would entail these two couples!
Kookakicha
May 15th, 2012 8:31 PM
@Jarine
My thoughts exactly. This episode was mediocre at best.
twilight
May 15th, 2012 7:19 PM
I don't know why people carry on about growing up and the sort..turn off the tv and go and live life or change the channel to the family channel. This show has alway been about the UES, excess, money and the priviledges it brings....kardashians anyone, not saying this stuff is healthy but it DOES happen in real life and sorry but this show is not meant to be an after school special. Further you don't really have to be UES to live this way. Are you all really living in a bubble...you really don't know or know of someone who has done horrible things to loved ones etc and are still all in. Yes they could tell the story of people who cut those types of people out of their lives but this is not that show.
sasha
May 15th, 2012 7:05 PM
5. Even though, S clearly wants to wear B's skin as a suit, B and S will reconcile because their friendship is like a ventricle of the heart of the show.
6. Lola leaving all the money to Ivy. Lily has become more and more of a villain so it makes sense she chose Bart Bass. Serena was becoming increasingly psychotic. All the signs were there. It was either coke head or serial killer.
7. I hope they don't reveal who's GG. It's just one of those things that are better left to audience interpretation. GG could be you or me or anyone, and his or her anonymity preserves the relatability and connective tissue between the audience and the show.
8. I hope to see a wedding, a baby, a book launch, and a political campaign.
Jarine
May 15th, 2012 7:03 PM
Is everyone in this table on the payroll of the CW? Seriously! Have we been watching the SAME SHOW? Dair died. Blair's back to groveling to prove her worth. What's good about that? What the frack?!
ruha
May 15th, 2012 6:59 PM
Is everyone - well, the girls for sure - in this roundtable a redneck?
sasha
May 15th, 2012 6:53 PM
1. Chuck's gentle suggestion "Unless there's something you want to tell me..." and cut to him yelling "I don't want to be Mr. Blair Waldorf!!" He changed his mind so fast. I would have felt better if he hadn't reacted to Bart's taunts by taking it out on Blair. Come on.
2. This finale compared to other finales was not very finale-like, however, compared with most of the this season, it was acceptable.
3. The timing of Blair's decision was not ideal, but yes, she and Chuck are a nice match.
4. Derena bar sex was gross. The original Nate and Serena sex was so much hotter and set the initial tone of the GG series.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
Rank: Extra
May 16th, 2012 9:11 AM
line of work.
Rank: Extra
May 16th, 2012 9:10 AM
So disappointed with TV Fanatic over this. I've usually appreciated the honest, quality reviews you provide. I had the utmost respect for the old reviewers for Glee and Community - even though they loved the show, they provided honest, critical assessments about what they viewed. I see no such critical thinking here. You only need to look to sites like Leaky News, Vulture, and even the Huffington post to find some worthwhile observations on this episode - they call out the seriously damaging themes this episode presented : devastation over safety in the name of "love" for one. They recognized and named the cheap tricks that all-but-destroyed five years of character development, and they lamented the sad portrayal of the characters that just might sink this show for good. I had hope that at least someone on the round table might have brought up some of these things, but it looks like I'll be reading my reviews elsewhere. This panel of blinded Chair shippers should consider a different l
Rank: Guest Star
May 16th, 2012 8:11 AM
Is Gossip Girl really Gossip Guy? She (or he) will never tell. We love her anyway. Or him. Whatever.
Predictions for the final season - Blair, Chuck and Nate will continue to build their empires, Chair will be on, from beginning to end, with no drama on their way (for a change), Chuck and Jack will take Bart down (I love that team up so much). I don't really care about anyone else. Except maybe Dan. It would be cool if he didn't turn into a jerk and went back to being friends with Blair. And Chuck too for that matter.
Rank: Guest Star
May 16th, 2012 8:10 AM
It kills me to say it, but I'm actually kind of glad this season is over. It had some great moments, but it's not the "GG" I loved for the first couple of seasons. I still hope the final 11 episodes will be great and the writers will give this show the ending it deserves.
Favourite quote/scene - "I'm all in" from Blair. I really hope this time she's done with being undecided. For good.
Did she make the right decision? Chair was endgame from season 1. There is no right or wrong here. I feel bad for Dan, because I actually liked Dair, but could they win against Chair? Never.
Derena barstool sex: hot or not? Not really.
Will Serena and Blair ever reconcile? Like most of the panel said, in reality - not a chance in hell. Let's face it, their frindship sucked most of the time. But on "GG" enything is possible.
Most surprising - none of the above actually. Tell me if I'm crazy, but I have a theory that Lily stayed with Bart to help Chuck take his evil dad down.
May 16th, 2012 7:50 AM
Hahaha that last monologue from Blair was epic. I didn't get over it. Woooo. I do hope Derena comes back with Chair as the endgame... with Dan having short hair. His dishevelled hair is too much I think. :/
May 16th, 2012 4:22 AM
Hahhaha! My grandparents have 6 people live-in help and hence the help happen to live in the poshest part of town. One's spelling, grammar, vocabulary, and taste in t-shirts (now, what kind of a garment is this) say quite a bit more than one's living in Manhattan.
May 16th, 2012 3:13 AM
courtney and christina hit the nail in with their answers for number 8. those would be the best outcomes. i don't think a derena endgame would result; lonely boy seems to have a lot of hate in him toward S and the UES in general. maybe lola will find someone new and more "normal" during her summer adventure? honestly serenate ALWAYS&FOREVER.
wish it had been damien on that train with S. revive the old plots!!
it makes me nervous they only have 11 episodes to sort everything out. will also miss these round tables :(
May 16th, 2012 2:29 AM
awful episode. blair could have had the decency to break up with dan instead of lying to his face. everything was handled horribly, and why another recycled storyline of the pilot? the show needed new storylines to keep it alive, that's why dair worked so well. it would have been nice not having chuck go back to the girl who as bart said made him bankrupt the comoany, even if chuck's intentions were good. I like chuck, and his face was so cute when blair stood by him, i just don't believe this crap about blair not loving dan... always will be team humphrey, but goodbye gg, no dair, do care.
May 16th, 2012 1:32 AM
Honestly i think that Lily & Rufus Drama we all had it coming but i didnt expect Lily to Chose Bart Coldest Heart Bass Over Rufus but its drama anyway..
In Other Hand i Dont understand how Lola Can Be So stupid in team up with Ivy! i mean she got it all wrong cause she thinks Lily Was plotting against Her mother Poor Thing. And On top of that leaving Hottie sexy Nate Alone!
Serena will be Serena i think they will give her a very similar ending as they did with Marissa in The O.C. : Her character just went thru everything you can imagine so people got tired of it and just killed her.
Chair will always be my favorite thing in the whole show, cause eventually they always find the're way back.
Oh almost forgot... i stick with the Dan being GG cause he closed the laptop just when Serena Got There... he was an outsider all the time and he Knew a lot about most of the main characters even before he was introduced in the UES.
May 16th, 2012 12:27 AM
Loving this theory about S doing everything she did at GG's request,mostly because I can't believe S would be such a bitch to Dan and Blair but also because it gave us her as a cokehead and now Dan can save her from going further down that path(I know it sounds dum but I'm a hardcore shipper)
May 16th, 2012 12:01 AM
Jackie,
Chuck didn't ask her to sleep with Jack for the hotel. She made a choice although it was influenced by her deep feelings for him. I'm not saying it's any less horrible I'm just saying that's it's not as black and white as people make it seem. There were many variables at play here.
I think S slept with Dan as GGs request. That makes sense and the vid could be posted by GG when it will inflict the most damage.
May 15th, 2012 11:19 PM
@Guest I couldn't agree more. Its so obvious that S did it for B. Why else would it show S asking GG that she'll do w/e GG wants. GG just wants to erase S from everyone else. Like someone else said, S is/has always been GG's biggest target and then S even stole the site from her. It makes COMPLETE sense that she did what she did for Blair and ALSO b/c she still loves Dan. Dan will realize this and Derena will join Chair for endgame.
May 15th, 2012 11:15 PM
@Jackie, THANK YOU for actually understanding what love is and how disgusting Chair is. Seriously is this what GG is promoting as an epic love story, so f'ing pathetic.
May 15th, 2012 10:32 PM
Well change the channel jackie.
It's funny, GG didn't really go after Blair. Really she was going after S the whole time. Her main goal has always been to make S irrelevent. Her quote at the end that Serena VDW does not exist...wonder who gg will end up being. Her main target has always seemed to be Serena.
May 15th, 2012 10:14 PM
nothing against chair but if they want to show this relationship then go ahead but show it for what it is...a damaged hurtful relathionship between chuck and blair who love each other but always bring out the worst in each other...they can show them trying to work on it...but seriously dont call it an "epic love story" because thats just sad and pathetic.
May 15th, 2012 10:10 PM
any woman who goes back to a man who asked her to sleep with someone else for his hotel needs a LOT of THERAPY (i dont care what he said or did after that because NOTHING can ever make up for it!)....and ANYONE who calls their story an "epic love story" needs to look up the definition of both words, epic and love...lol...
Sadly, this kind of a story is all too common now a days..with women going back to men who abuse them (physically or psychologically) but whats worse is when stories like that are called "epic love stories"...all the shipping wars aside what is so surprising is that even the reveiwers of this website and many others call chair an "epic love story"...so does that mean that women should accept abuse as long as the man says he loves you while he is doing it??
nothing against chair but if they want to show this relationship then go ahead but show it for what it is...a damaged hurtful relathionship between chuck and blair who love each other but always bring out the wors
May 15th, 2012 9:15 PM
Wow..The idea is amzing -> S did what she did in this season finale is because of GG's response to her plea..
I don't understand why S has to record the bar sex, this theory give me the answer.
After going through old posts in the Gossip girl site, S realizes Dan is the best. I hope in season6, the history of S via G will make Dan realize S is the best in his life too.
All S did in the show so far is believable to me. Unlike B, her actions were so pathetic this season.. The worst is that pact with god... still, she got everything she wants...
Rank: Staff Member
May 15th, 2012 8:41 PM
whoever asked if the girls on table are rednecks- I'm from NY and live in Manhattan, precisely on the block where they shoot the Van der Woodsen apartment, but if we were from backcountry Bluebell Alabama who cares??? Also whoever said Serena stooped to the bar sex blackmail because it was probably an order from GG, this is an AMAZING theory and I'm totally on board. Also my answer to rating this finale got effed up so here it is: it mostly blew and was fairly depressing. But then again they were cleaning up after a season of Safran butchering the show to death so they did what they could in one hour!
Rank: Recurring Character
May 15th, 2012 8:37 PM
I swear to god if Nate and Serena get back together I will forever HATE this show!! All I want is Chair and Derena endgame. If we really want to go back to the awesomeness of season 1 that would entail these two couples!
May 15th, 2012 8:31 PM
@Jarine
My thoughts exactly. This episode was mediocre at best.
May 15th, 2012 7:19 PM
I don't know why people carry on about growing up and the sort..turn off the tv and go and live life or change the channel to the family channel. This show has alway been about the UES, excess, money and the priviledges it brings....kardashians anyone, not saying this stuff is healthy but it DOES happen in real life and sorry but this show is not meant to be an after school special. Further you don't really have to be UES to live this way. Are you all really living in a bubble...you really don't know or know of someone who has done horrible things to loved ones etc and are still all in. Yes they could tell the story of people who cut those types of people out of their lives but this is not that show.
May 15th, 2012 7:05 PM
5. Even though, S clearly wants to wear B's skin as a suit, B and S will reconcile because their friendship is like a ventricle of the heart of the show.
6. Lola leaving all the money to Ivy. Lily has become more and more of a villain so it makes sense she chose Bart Bass. Serena was becoming increasingly psychotic. All the signs were there. It was either coke head or serial killer.
7. I hope they don't reveal who's GG. It's just one of those things that are better left to audience interpretation. GG could be you or me or anyone, and his or her anonymity preserves the relatability and connective tissue between the audience and the show.
8. I hope to see a wedding, a baby, a book launch, and a political campaign.
May 15th, 2012 7:03 PM
Is everyone in this table on the payroll of the CW? Seriously! Have we been watching the SAME SHOW? Dair died. Blair's back to groveling to prove her worth. What's good about that? What the frack?!
May 15th, 2012 6:59 PM
Is everyone - well, the girls for sure - in this roundtable a redneck?
May 15th, 2012 6:53 PM
1. Chuck's gentle suggestion "Unless there's something you want to tell me..." and cut to him yelling "I don't want to be Mr. Blair Waldorf!!" He changed his mind so fast. I would have felt better if he hadn't reacted to Bart's taunts by taking it out on Blair. Come on.
2. This finale compared to other finales was not very finale-like, however, compared with most of the this season, it was acceptable.
3. The timing of Blair's decision was not ideal, but yes, she and Chuck are a nice match.
4. Derena bar sex was gross. The original Nate and Serena sex was so much hotter and set the initial tone of the GG series.