Teen Wolf Review: Off To See The Lizard Comments (Page 2)
48 Comments
steve
June 20th, 2012 12:49 PM
Another point to make is that when Lydia punched the mirror and became all bloody she did not heal from it. If she were to be the lizard or a wolf, I feel she would heal right away from something small like that.
Cricket
June 20th, 2012 11:23 AM
"I do think both Lydia and Peter are supernatural, though."
Oops! What I meant to say was Lydia and JACKSON (not Peter)
Cricket
June 20th, 2012 11:19 AM
Oops! I got cut off. Here's the rest...
Looks like the lizard thing has more of a guy's torso, so I think it's a dude. Yuuyake made a cool observation about the timing of the attack at Isaac's house. It did happen right after camera guy left Jackson's house and was asking about the lights on at Isaac's place. I didn't catch that before. Hmm...maybe he's it?
Why didn't he go after Derek in the pool? Maybe he can't swim, but rain doesn't bother him. Chlorine can poison amphibians, though, so maybe that's the reason - only the writers know!
Cricket
June 20th, 2012 11:12 AM
Lydia went nuts at the ice rink because she saw Peter Hale's face beneath the ice screaming at her, not her own reflection. Maybe Peter was screaming b/c he saw HIMSELF trapped in her body, like his image was trapped behind the ice? (MIND BLOWN!) When she was in the counselor's office she repeated something he said, like she was sharing his thoughts. She saw him at school and again at the rink. She probably saw him in her bedroom mirror before she busted it. Is she going through some kinda aftershock or is Peter using her to try to come back?
I don't think the lizard thing is Jackson or Lydia. That would be too obvious. I do think both Lydia and Peter are supernatural, though. Neither of them were turned by the bite, so maybe they share some DNA. Why else would they BOTH be able to resist the bite while everyone else turned?
Looks like the lizard thing has more of a guy's torso, so I think it's a dude. Yuuyake made a cool observation about the timing of the attack at Isaac's ho
Lee Zard
June 20th, 2012 8:34 AM
Wait a second - now I'm thinking it must be the photographer kid, after all. He was wearing a lacrosse uniform when Scott's mom talked to him, so that's how he would know the kid at the garage and why they would show the photo in that scene - as a common thread. (Seemed like garage kid was a bit of a punk*ss, anyway.) It might also explain how he'd know about Isaac's dad and would want to get revenge on him for what he did to his son. Hmm. . . I think you're right, Reginaa.
Reginaa
June 20th, 2012 2:27 AM
But it's all in Lydia's head so maybe the mirror thing ties in with her seeing Peter. Her and Jackson seem to be connected somehow with seeing things, being bitten, and rejecting the bite. And they both could be suspects of the lizard thing. The lizard doesn't like seeing its reflection and it could be anyone but remember, Lydia is a bit of a narcissist, so it might not be her. But her mirror was broken and she was bloody. But the lizard might be the photographer because remember, he asked Jackson if he was making a sex tape with Alison, and the creature didn't attack Alison in Issac's house, and the guy was taking pictures of Alison at the lacrosse game. It could be Jackson, Lydia, photographer guy, Alison's grandfather, or someone completely different. Or there could be more than one. The creature is capable of both walking like a human AND crawling, and it seemed to know Stiles from somewhere. The mechanic scene was a little sketchy because of the lacrosse picture, and the creature
Regina
June 20th, 2012 2:26 AM
It couldn't be Jackson if he was emerging out of water because the creature can't swim. Or maybe it doesn't like water, but then the scene where it killed Issac's dad wouldn't make sense because it was raining. Maybe it doesn't like being SUBMERGED in water but it doesn't mind being rained on, unless there is two. It could be Jackson because of the missing footage, and superhuman strength, and his body rejecting the bite, but like some others have said, maybe his body rejected the bite because of when Derek scratched him. After scratching him, his body might've fought off the infection, and did the same to the bite and built an immunity. The same thing happened to Lydia, her body fought off the bite. I thought it was a scratch but it's a bite. But in the scene in Season One where Stiles and Scott sneak in to look at her, the bite doesn't heal, so it didn't actually fight the bite, it just healed slowly and didn't transform her. But also in Season One when Peter stuck his claws in the b
hurtman
June 20th, 2012 1:17 AM
well i think it is jackson
Yuuyake
June 20th, 2012 1:16 AM
Its too obvious if its Lydia. There is no way they would make it Lydia or Jackson. They are just trying to throw us off with them too. Remember last season. The Alpha was someone close to the group but not too close so that you were surprised who it was. No one would be surprised it was Jackson or Lydia. Thus it would disappoint the fans of Teen Wolf. This is made even more obvious by the fact that they are going after Jackson and Lydia in the next episode. Which is too soon. I think its the camera guy. Remember when he was dropping off the camera to Jackson. He noticed lights in Isaac's house. He looks like the type to investigate something like that. I was expecting to see him pop up and ask Allison what she was doing. Instead we get lizard guy, who didn't attack Allison. The camera guy is my best bet.
Anonnnn
June 20th, 2012 12:47 AM
Well in season 1 Jackson was swimming with Allison. So if it doesn't know how to swim, the Kamaina can't be Jackson.
its Lydia, because when she saw her own reflection on the Ice Rink, she went crazy. Also, she punched a mirror, why would she do that? Abomination freaked out when it saw itself on the broken mirror. So could it be Lydia?
Except Jackson had his own moments with Mirror.
One was before he filmed himself during full moon. And then he got uber pissed off after seeing his reflection on a truck.
More than likely Jackson and Lydia are not the lizard creatures and are something else.
Pikachu
June 19th, 2012 11:20 PM
its Lydia, because when she saw her own reflection on the Ice Rink, she went crazy. Also, she punched a mirror, why would she do that? Abomination freaked out when it saw itself on the broken mirror. So could it be Lydia?
Lee Zard
June 19th, 2012 8:34 PM
When Lydia was in the school counselor's office, she said, "Sometimes the people closest to you can be holding you back the most". That's a quote from Peter Hale from season one (he said that to Scott). I think Peter is somehow using her, maybe turned her into a Kanaima instead of a wolf. Also - The older kid from the garage was wearing a #1 lacrosse jersey in his photo: who is wearing that number now? Is that some sort of clue?
Omg the scene where erica jumped derek was so fucking hot!!! I was so wishing i was her during that scene. Who wouldn't want to jump the sexy ass man!!!!
srah
June 19th, 2012 3:52 PM
The karmaina is lydia because remember the second episode about matt when he was in the cemetery... that's the same night that lydia got away from the hospital.
Vampbarbie Rank: Regular Character
June 19th, 2012 3:02 PM
Also since when does a monster have to have a motive to kill? Isnt figuring out its identity the mystery not why it's killing? And last year the Alfa killed everyone for revenge. Remember Kate set a fire to the house and killed all those innocent people. Plus he was a little crazy from taking along time to heal in a mental ward.
Vampbarbie Rank: Regular Character
June 19th, 2012 2:52 PM
I think your review is a little off this week. Right now this is one of my favorite supernatural shows. But why isnt it okay to have WTH moments. There's so much good stuff going on. 1) what's Scott's boss 2) Gerard stabbing Scott and black mailing him for a favor 3) who's stalking Allison camera guy 4) what's wrong with Lydia and Jackson 5) who edited the tape? 6) who's the lizard? 7) did i miss anything? This show gives laughs, action and I see nothing wrong with the acting at all.
Lee Zard
June 19th, 2012 2:26 PM
I just did a quick online lookup of Kanaima (aka: TW Lizard) and "it" is a spirit that kills out of vengeance and sometimes uses a human host (often a relative) to do it. Lydia keeps having visions of Peter, so I think he's behind this somehow - especially when one of the killings took place in the woods where he was killed. Peter knew Stiles and liked him (offered him "the bite"), so that could explain why he was unharmed. Why Peter would kill the kid at the garage or Isaac's dad is a mystery, though. I'm not ruling Jackson out - I think he is Peter Hale's son. If Peter is behind this, then he could be using Jackson - maybe using both him and Lydia? Gramps Argent wouldn't have killed a hunter, so he's not the lizard, imo. I don't know anything about Matt - anybody have any background info on him?
Laurette
June 19th, 2012 2:05 PM
Look it has to be admitted that Teen Wolf isn't exactly the best made show on tv.
Sure, it's enjoyable and number one on my summer DVR, but I agree with Dan the reviewer, it has to appeal to an MTV audience. Trying to do a serious drama with depth on that network would be almost impossible.
I think the Lizard monster isn't Lydia or Jackson. Their names are both mentioned in the promo for next week as suspects - It's obviously a red herring.
Lizard is obviously either creepy photographer or the kid with whom Lydia traded snarks near shrink's office.
Lydia and Jackson most likely are something else and will be this seasons "Alpha twist" with abomination being a red herring
I LOVE how badass, competent, evil and dangerous Argent family is so far. AFter spending years upon years watch the so called "hunters" on tv being incompetent wimps(*cough*tvd*cough*) Its nice to see someone who is ruthless and is not easily fooled.
Bee
June 19th, 2012 10:59 AM
I feel as if Jackson would be the most logical case. He is linked to all three victims: he saw Issac's dad right before he was killed, he probably met the hunter after being questioned by Argent and his team, and he probably met the mechanic because the kid had been on the lacrosse team as well. It would explain why he did not attack Alison but rather stare at her (recognition), the same with Stiles. Chances are his link with Lydia would lead him to her room, but if he saw his reflection in her mirror, it probably deterred him from attacking. and i guess there's also that photographer who is creepy and should just be thrown in as the next possible candidate.
Bee
June 19th, 2012 10:54 AM
I feel as if the most logical person would either be the photographer just because he's new, creepy, and there has been little character development... or Jackson. Look at the murder victims: Isaac's dad, the hunter, and the mechanic. Issac's dad, was witnessed by jackson right before he was killed, the hunter could very easily have been seen by jackson during one of Argent's scare tactics, and we know the mechanic had been on the lacrosse team which could have been where they met. Naturally jackson would recognize stiles, and not want to hurt Alison when they met
Tammy
June 19th, 2012 10:49 AM
Well said, Anon!! I agree with you 100%. On everything from the episode to the review. Sometimes I think this reviewers watch so much TV as per there job that they miss certain things that someone who doesn't watch TV for a living might enjoy. But agree this was a bad review. Lighten up reviewer.
kat
June 19th, 2012 10:44 AM
I theorize it was the chlorine and not the water that was burning the creature, if I recall biology class at all (doubtful) but couldn't you kill your pet iguana by putting it in pool water? It will be curious if that is how we discover who it is when one of our characters (I bet Matt) won't go into the pool or has a freak out and has burns on him when he does. My elementary school had a swimming pool, so we had swimming lessons like once a week, I am guessing there is a likely gym class led there at some point. w
KnightWolf
June 19th, 2012 10:39 AM
At first I thought the lizard was Lydia, but now I'm leaning towards Jackson. Remember Derek walking away from him when Jackson was leaking that black substance from his body. He said that for some reason his body is rejecting the wolf transformation. The creature is referred to as an abomination, which I think links with the strange side effects Jackson suffered after getting bit. I'm confused on one thing. It seems like the water burned the creature when it touched the water in the pool. If that as the case, why didn't the rain water burn the creature when it killed Isaac's father outside in the rain?
Derek: He's turning into that? That has wings.
June 20th, 2012 12:49 PM
Another point to make is that when Lydia punched the mirror and became all bloody she did not heal from it. If she were to be the lizard or a wolf, I feel she would heal right away from something small like that.
June 20th, 2012 11:23 AM
"I do think both Lydia and Peter are supernatural, though."
Oops! What I meant to say was Lydia and JACKSON (not Peter)
June 20th, 2012 11:19 AM
Oops! I got cut off. Here's the rest...
Looks like the lizard thing has more of a guy's torso, so I think it's a dude. Yuuyake made a cool observation about the timing of the attack at Isaac's house. It did happen right after camera guy left Jackson's house and was asking about the lights on at Isaac's place. I didn't catch that before. Hmm...maybe he's it?
Why didn't he go after Derek in the pool? Maybe he can't swim, but rain doesn't bother him. Chlorine can poison amphibians, though, so maybe that's the reason - only the writers know!
June 20th, 2012 11:12 AM
Lydia went nuts at the ice rink because she saw Peter Hale's face beneath the ice screaming at her, not her own reflection. Maybe Peter was screaming b/c he saw HIMSELF trapped in her body, like his image was trapped behind the ice? (MIND BLOWN!) When she was in the counselor's office she repeated something he said, like she was sharing his thoughts. She saw him at school and again at the rink. She probably saw him in her bedroom mirror before she busted it. Is she going through some kinda aftershock or is Peter using her to try to come back?
I don't think the lizard thing is Jackson or Lydia. That would be too obvious. I do think both Lydia and Peter are supernatural, though. Neither of them were turned by the bite, so maybe they share some DNA. Why else would they BOTH be able to resist the bite while everyone else turned?
Looks like the lizard thing has more of a guy's torso, so I think it's a dude. Yuuyake made a cool observation about the timing of the attack at Isaac's ho
June 20th, 2012 8:34 AM
Wait a second - now I'm thinking it must be the photographer kid, after all. He was wearing a lacrosse uniform when Scott's mom talked to him, so that's how he would know the kid at the garage and why they would show the photo in that scene - as a common thread. (Seemed like garage kid was a bit of a punk*ss, anyway.) It might also explain how he'd know about Isaac's dad and would want to get revenge on him for what he did to his son. Hmm. . . I think you're right, Reginaa.
June 20th, 2012 2:27 AM
But it's all in Lydia's head so maybe the mirror thing ties in with her seeing Peter. Her and Jackson seem to be connected somehow with seeing things, being bitten, and rejecting the bite. And they both could be suspects of the lizard thing. The lizard doesn't like seeing its reflection and it could be anyone but remember, Lydia is a bit of a narcissist, so it might not be her. But her mirror was broken and she was bloody. But the lizard might be the photographer because remember, he asked Jackson if he was making a sex tape with Alison, and the creature didn't attack Alison in Issac's house, and the guy was taking pictures of Alison at the lacrosse game. It could be Jackson, Lydia, photographer guy, Alison's grandfather, or someone completely different. Or there could be more than one. The creature is capable of both walking like a human AND crawling, and it seemed to know Stiles from somewhere. The mechanic scene was a little sketchy because of the lacrosse picture, and the creature
June 20th, 2012 2:26 AM
It couldn't be Jackson if he was emerging out of water because the creature can't swim. Or maybe it doesn't like water, but then the scene where it killed Issac's dad wouldn't make sense because it was raining. Maybe it doesn't like being SUBMERGED in water but it doesn't mind being rained on, unless there is two. It could be Jackson because of the missing footage, and superhuman strength, and his body rejecting the bite, but like some others have said, maybe his body rejected the bite because of when Derek scratched him. After scratching him, his body might've fought off the infection, and did the same to the bite and built an immunity. The same thing happened to Lydia, her body fought off the bite. I thought it was a scratch but it's a bite. But in the scene in Season One where Stiles and Scott sneak in to look at her, the bite doesn't heal, so it didn't actually fight the bite, it just healed slowly and didn't transform her. But also in Season One when Peter stuck his claws in the b
June 20th, 2012 1:17 AM
well i think it is jackson
June 20th, 2012 1:16 AM
Its too obvious if its Lydia. There is no way they would make it Lydia or Jackson. They are just trying to throw us off with them too. Remember last season. The Alpha was someone close to the group but not too close so that you were surprised who it was. No one would be surprised it was Jackson or Lydia. Thus it would disappoint the fans of Teen Wolf. This is made even more obvious by the fact that they are going after Jackson and Lydia in the next episode. Which is too soon. I think its the camera guy. Remember when he was dropping off the camera to Jackson. He noticed lights in Isaac's house. He looks like the type to investigate something like that. I was expecting to see him pop up and ask Allison what she was doing. Instead we get lizard guy, who didn't attack Allison. The camera guy is my best bet.
June 20th, 2012 12:47 AM
Well in season 1 Jackson was swimming with Allison. So if it doesn't know how to swim, the Kamaina can't be Jackson.
June 19th, 2012 11:55 PM
its Lydia, because when she saw her own reflection on the Ice Rink, she went crazy. Also, she punched a mirror, why would she do that? Abomination freaked out when it saw itself on the broken mirror. So could it be Lydia?
Except Jackson had his own moments with Mirror.
One was before he filmed himself during full moon. And then he got uber pissed off after seeing his reflection on a truck.
More than likely Jackson and Lydia are not the lizard creatures and are something else.
June 19th, 2012 11:20 PM
its Lydia, because when she saw her own reflection on the Ice Rink, she went crazy. Also, she punched a mirror, why would she do that? Abomination freaked out when it saw itself on the broken mirror. So could it be Lydia?
June 19th, 2012 8:34 PM
When Lydia was in the school counselor's office, she said, "Sometimes the people closest to you can be holding you back the most". That's a quote from Peter Hale from season one (he said that to Scott). I think Peter is somehow using her, maybe turned her into a Kanaima instead of a wolf. Also - The older kid from the garage was wearing a #1 lacrosse jersey in his photo: who is wearing that number now? Is that some sort of clue?
Rank: Guest Star
June 19th, 2012 8:06 PM
Omg the scene where erica jumped derek was so fucking hot!!! I was so wishing i was her during that scene. Who wouldn't want to jump the sexy ass man!!!!
June 19th, 2012 3:52 PM
The karmaina is lydia because remember the second episode about matt when he was in the cemetery... that's the same night that lydia got away from the hospital.
Rank: Regular Character
June 19th, 2012 3:02 PM
Also since when does a monster have to have a motive to kill? Isnt figuring out its identity the mystery not why it's killing? And last year the Alfa killed everyone for revenge. Remember Kate set a fire to the house and killed all those innocent people. Plus he was a little crazy from taking along time to heal in a mental ward.
Rank: Regular Character
June 19th, 2012 2:52 PM
I think your review is a little off this week. Right now this is one of my favorite supernatural shows. But why isnt it okay to have WTH moments. There's so much good stuff going on. 1) what's Scott's boss 2) Gerard stabbing Scott and black mailing him for a favor 3) who's stalking Allison camera guy 4) what's wrong with Lydia and Jackson 5) who edited the tape? 6) who's the lizard? 7) did i miss anything? This show gives laughs, action and I see nothing wrong with the acting at all.
June 19th, 2012 2:26 PM
I just did a quick online lookup of Kanaima (aka: TW Lizard) and "it" is a spirit that kills out of vengeance and sometimes uses a human host (often a relative) to do it. Lydia keeps having visions of Peter, so I think he's behind this somehow - especially when one of the killings took place in the woods where he was killed. Peter knew Stiles and liked him (offered him "the bite"), so that could explain why he was unharmed. Why Peter would kill the kid at the garage or Isaac's dad is a mystery, though. I'm not ruling Jackson out - I think he is Peter Hale's son. If Peter is behind this, then he could be using Jackson - maybe using both him and Lydia? Gramps Argent wouldn't have killed a hunter, so he's not the lizard, imo. I don't know anything about Matt - anybody have any background info on him?
June 19th, 2012 2:05 PM
Look it has to be admitted that Teen Wolf isn't exactly the best made show on tv.
Sure, it's enjoyable and number one on my summer DVR, but I agree with Dan the reviewer, it has to appeal to an MTV audience. Trying to do a serious drama with depth on that network would be almost impossible.
I think the Lizard monster isn't Lydia or Jackson. Their names are both mentioned in the promo for next week as suspects - It's obviously a red herring.
June 19th, 2012 1:43 PM
Lizard is obviously either creepy photographer or the kid with whom Lydia traded snarks near shrink's office.
Lydia and Jackson most likely are something else and will be this seasons "Alpha twist" with abomination being a red herring
I LOVE how badass, competent, evil and dangerous Argent family is so far. AFter spending years upon years watch the so called "hunters" on tv being incompetent wimps(*cough*tvd*cough*) Its nice to see someone who is ruthless and is not easily fooled.
June 19th, 2012 10:59 AM
I feel as if Jackson would be the most logical case. He is linked to all three victims: he saw Issac's dad right before he was killed, he probably met the hunter after being questioned by Argent and his team, and he probably met the mechanic because the kid had been on the lacrosse team as well. It would explain why he did not attack Alison but rather stare at her (recognition), the same with Stiles. Chances are his link with Lydia would lead him to her room, but if he saw his reflection in her mirror, it probably deterred him from attacking. and i guess there's also that photographer who is creepy and should just be thrown in as the next possible candidate.
June 19th, 2012 10:54 AM
I feel as if the most logical person would either be the photographer just because he's new, creepy, and there has been little character development... or Jackson. Look at the murder victims: Isaac's dad, the hunter, and the mechanic. Issac's dad, was witnessed by jackson right before he was killed, the hunter could very easily have been seen by jackson during one of Argent's scare tactics, and we know the mechanic had been on the lacrosse team which could have been where they met. Naturally jackson would recognize stiles, and not want to hurt Alison when they met
June 19th, 2012 10:49 AM
Well said, Anon!! I agree with you 100%. On everything from the episode to the review. Sometimes I think this reviewers watch so much TV as per there job that they miss certain things that someone who doesn't watch TV for a living might enjoy. But agree this was a bad review. Lighten up reviewer.
June 19th, 2012 10:44 AM
I theorize it was the chlorine and not the water that was burning the creature, if I recall biology class at all (doubtful) but couldn't you kill your pet iguana by putting it in pool water? It will be curious if that is how we discover who it is when one of our characters (I bet Matt) won't go into the pool or has a freak out and has burns on him when he does. My elementary school had a swimming pool, so we had swimming lessons like once a week, I am guessing there is a likely gym class led there at some point. w
June 19th, 2012 10:39 AM
At first I thought the lizard was Lydia, but now I'm leaning towards Jackson. Remember Derek walking away from him when Jackson was leaking that black substance from his body. He said that for some reason his body is rejecting the wolf transformation. The creature is referred to as an abomination, which I think links with the strange side effects Jackson suffered after getting bit. I'm confused on one thing. It seems like the water burned the creature when it touched the water in the pool. If that as the case, why didn't the rain water burn the creature when it killed Isaac's father outside in the rain?