Elementary Round Table: Series Premiere Comments (Page 2)
17 Comments
marymary
October 1st, 2012 7:06 PM
When a so-called reviewer begins with "I can't stand so and so" I am pretty sure the review is worthless. Why? It is not an adult or even relevant way to judge the work of someone. How old is Miss Clarissa? 12? Please do not insult your readers with barbie doll nonsense, it is a waste of time. More importantly, american I may be, but this show sucks... it is just another CBS remake of what they have been doing for years, give me Sherlock and yes, Mr. Cumberbatch anytime. And get rid of your reviewer Clarissa. Please!
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
October 1st, 2012 6:44 PM
1. The scene from the honey dripping through Sherlock/Watson's conversation on the roof.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. A love interest
Just because a program is a different interpretation from one you love does not mean it's automatically poor/not worth watching.
Carolyn
October 1st, 2012 6:28 PM
Too bad CBS had to name them Holmes and Watson. If they'd had the guts to produce an original series, at least we'd have something new. Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu are appealing, and they deserve characters with new identities, since they bear no resemblance to the denizens of 221B Baker Street. The BBC's Sherlock honours the stories of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, with wit, style, and geekly love. Elementary does none of that, and it wastes good actors in a cynical attempt to jump on the Sherlock bandwagon. American viewers deserve more than CBS saying, "Hey, BBC, we got one of those!" No, we don't. We really don't.
Belinda
October 1st, 2012 2:45 PM
The pilot was decent enough for me to not give it a scathing review, mostly because I love Miller and Liu as performers and they are wonderful - but this is American TV, as much as they might say they won't do a love interest story between the two, I highly doubt it will stick down the line, after all, there's plenty of other shows who have said the same and only proved it wrong a few seasons in. So far, the show has not proven itself to be unique, it is just like another procedural cop drama that CBS does all the time. But it will probably stay on for a while as most CBS shows will last.
If I'm gonna give my view on Holmes/Watson duo comparison, then this would be my views: this round table may have mostly placed RDJ and Jude Law at the bottom of the list as clearly a few here haven't seen the movies, but for me, they are my favorite duo simply because they practically embody the characters that I read in the books since I was a kid, they feel like the Holmes and Watson stepping ou
Barb
October 1st, 2012 11:47 AM
It is a shame that so many of the people watching "Elementary" haven't watched "Sherlock" or for some even know it exist. Tho i guess maybe some may notice it mentioned and i would hope give it at try on DVD or Netflix.
Moffat & Gatiss are such Holmes geeks and they know so much about the movies and books and they care deeply about, tho adding new things, keeping it Sherlock Holmes.
CBS wanted to redo Sherlock and they said no, so of course they had to go a different way. And the chemistry between Benedict and Martin is so great. In fact as soon as Martin came in the room to read for the role they kinda knew and then when he did - that was it.
Benedict has said it would of been nice to at least see a Billboard of "Sherlock", but of course, none but "Elementary" will be everywhere.
It will have to hold up through a whole season. I think i read CBS think they have maybe 6 years for this show.
But as a Classic - it won't be remember the way "Sherlock" will be.
Niles
October 1st, 2012 11:17 AM
This actually fell pretty flat for me. Really like Jonny Lee Miller, and am a big fan of the original books and stories. Felt JLM's portrayal kind of stuck in overdrive. Also, didn't see the connection to the original characters. I saw this is a decent CBS recipe procedural, but not really Sherlock Holmes, more like House or Monk. If I had gone into it with that expectation, I probably could have enjoyed it more. On the other hand, I watched the BBC series right after reading the Conan Doyle stories. I was absolutely delighted with how that series tied everything back to the original stories... Through writing, production sets, and the character portrayals were right on. So, for me Elementary was a disappointment in that it's just another CBS formula drama, and really pale in comparison to the BBC series. I was frankly shocked that the reviews were so favorable. But CBS' marketing really succeeded, and it will probably be a big hit. Makes me sad that not enough people will v
l'empress
October 1st, 2012 11:12 AM
Yeah, I'll watch it again, but I don't like it as much as the PBS "Sherlock."
Watson as a female? Maybe -- but she's no Mary Russell. I did like her watching the Mets, as well as the closing refrain of "Watching the Detectives." (Of course, that song reminds me of "History Detectives," a different show altogether.
Best line from Sherlock: "I googled. Somethings can't be deduced."
October 1st, 2012 7:06 PM
When a so-called reviewer begins with "I can't stand so and so" I am pretty sure the review is worthless. Why? It is not an adult or even relevant way to judge the work of someone. How old is Miss Clarissa? 12? Please do not insult your readers with barbie doll nonsense, it is a waste of time. More importantly, american I may be, but this show sucks... it is just another CBS remake of what they have been doing for years, give me Sherlock and yes, Mr. Cumberbatch anytime. And get rid of your reviewer Clarissa. Please!
Rank: Regular Character
October 1st, 2012 6:44 PM
1. The scene from the honey dripping through Sherlock/Watson's conversation on the roof.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. A love interest
Just because a program is a different interpretation from one you love does not mean it's automatically poor/not worth watching.
October 1st, 2012 6:28 PM
Too bad CBS had to name them Holmes and Watson. If they'd had the guts to produce an original series, at least we'd have something new. Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu are appealing, and they deserve characters with new identities, since they bear no resemblance to the denizens of 221B Baker Street. The BBC's Sherlock honours the stories of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, with wit, style, and geekly love. Elementary does none of that, and it wastes good actors in a cynical attempt to jump on the Sherlock bandwagon. American viewers deserve more than CBS saying, "Hey, BBC, we got one of those!" No, we don't. We really don't.
October 1st, 2012 2:45 PM
The pilot was decent enough for me to not give it a scathing review, mostly because I love Miller and Liu as performers and they are wonderful - but this is American TV, as much as they might say they won't do a love interest story between the two, I highly doubt it will stick down the line, after all, there's plenty of other shows who have said the same and only proved it wrong a few seasons in. So far, the show has not proven itself to be unique, it is just like another procedural cop drama that CBS does all the time. But it will probably stay on for a while as most CBS shows will last.
If I'm gonna give my view on Holmes/Watson duo comparison, then this would be my views: this round table may have mostly placed RDJ and Jude Law at the bottom of the list as clearly a few here haven't seen the movies, but for me, they are my favorite duo simply because they practically embody the characters that I read in the books since I was a kid, they feel like the Holmes and Watson stepping ou
October 1st, 2012 11:47 AM
It is a shame that so many of the people watching "Elementary" haven't watched "Sherlock" or for some even know it exist. Tho i guess maybe some may notice it mentioned and i would hope give it at try on DVD or Netflix.
Moffat & Gatiss are such Holmes geeks and they know so much about the movies and books and they care deeply about, tho adding new things, keeping it Sherlock Holmes.
CBS wanted to redo Sherlock and they said no, so of course they had to go a different way. And the chemistry between Benedict and Martin is so great. In fact as soon as Martin came in the room to read for the role they kinda knew and then when he did - that was it.
Benedict has said it would of been nice to at least see a Billboard of "Sherlock", but of course, none but "Elementary" will be everywhere.
It will have to hold up through a whole season. I think i read CBS think they have maybe 6 years for this show.
But as a Classic - it won't be remember the way "Sherlock" will be.
October 1st, 2012 11:17 AM
This actually fell pretty flat for me. Really like Jonny Lee Miller, and am a big fan of the original books and stories. Felt JLM's portrayal kind of stuck in overdrive. Also, didn't see the connection to the original characters. I saw this is a decent CBS recipe procedural, but not really Sherlock Holmes, more like House or Monk. If I had gone into it with that expectation, I probably could have enjoyed it more. On the other hand, I watched the BBC series right after reading the Conan Doyle stories. I was absolutely delighted with how that series tied everything back to the original stories... Through writing, production sets, and the character portrayals were right on. So, for me Elementary was a disappointment in that it's just another CBS formula drama, and really pale in comparison to the BBC series. I was frankly shocked that the reviews were so favorable. But CBS' marketing really succeeded, and it will probably be a big hit. Makes me sad that not enough people will v
October 1st, 2012 11:12 AM
Yeah, I'll watch it again, but I don't like it as much as the PBS "Sherlock."
Watson as a female? Maybe -- but she's no Mary Russell. I did like her watching the Mets, as well as the closing refrain of "Watching the Detectives." (Of course, that song reminds me of "History Detectives," a different show altogether.
Best line from Sherlock: "I googled. Somethings can't be deduced."