Fringe Round Table: Season 5 Premiere

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"Transilience Thought Unifier Model 11" marked the beginning of the end for Fringe.

Join TV Fanatic staffers Nick McHatton, Sean McKenna, Carla Day and Carissa Pavlica as they chat about the opener, muse on where September and William Bell might be and discuss what they hope to get out of the final season.


Was Olivia's reveal even close to what you expected? Expand!
Nick: I figured Olivia was off doing something else for the good of the team. I think the reason we were all wondering different is Peter is usually with her, and since he wasn't by her side, we all thought the worst. What I'm confused about is in Letters of Transit Bell supposedly killed Olivia, so I'm at a quandary here.

Sean: No. I honestly had no idea what was going to happen. It was kind of cool that she happened to be bought up by someone we knew and even funny she turned out to be a coffee table. 

Carla: I didn't have any clue what to expect, but I was surprised that Olivia and Peter had a strained relationship. That was incredibly sad after all they have been through. I also didn't expect that Olivia would be used as someone's coffee table, I mean, really? Weird!

Carissa: Playing coffee table was never on the list. Edward Markham never caught me as a borderline obsessive psychopath, either, so his "love" was a surprise. Discovering she went down fighting was pure Olivia. Etta takes after her mama.

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Will music heal Walter?
Nick: Absolutely, Walter always had music on in his lab, and I believe it helps him focus his thoughts.

Sean: I don't think so, but maybe it will help calm him in a way that could help.

Carla: I don't think music alone will heal Walter, but it will be a factor in helping him recover and in keeping him calm.

Carissa: Fringe is cutting edge. Given Walter's affiliation for music, it doesn't surprise me we're going to see the possible benefits of music therapy (aleit off the cuff therapy) on the show. Music recognition does regain memory. I expect it will be dramatic, emotional and inspirational as it heals.

What do you think happened to September?
Nick: He's probably being held by the Observers, or they've killed him.

Sean: He's having pina coladas on a beach somewhere, right? No clue, but he's out there somewhere.

Carla:  I hope he is hiding somewhere and will show up when he is needed the most, but I fear he is either dead or an Observer prisoner.

Carissa: Something tells me that bullet wound was fatal. With as much flitting around time as he did with it, he may have left it too long. But I hope a time loop allows us to see him again. 

Do you expect Agent Foster and Belly to turn up soon?
Nick: While I would like Belly to show up again I'm not sure if his appearance is necessarily warranted. I would much prefer to see the other side one final time before the series heads off the air for good.

Sean: Yes, probably, but at this point I'm just along for the ride and can't wait to see what happens.

Carla:  Belly doesn't really have much to offer in this world, so I'd be okay if he remained ambered forever. Agent Foster, I hope he is freed and soon. The rebel Fringe team could use his assistance and I loved his character in "Letters of Transit."

Carissa: I expect to see them both in some capacity. Walter and Peter deserve a nice quiet momemnt with Mr. Bell after what he did to their Olivia. Maybe they can slap him with his own hand.

What are you most looking forward to in the next 12?
Nick: Again, I would love to see the other one last time. I miss Lincoln Lee and the gang.

Sean: Hmm, I already love the direction the show is headed but I do wonder if the other side will come into play at any point. I think with the show having an end date (although, still sad it is ending) the final 12 can be packed full with story towards a great ending.

Carla: The Fringe team kicking some Observer ass! I'm intrigued by the team's search for clues Walter has hidden on how to beat the Observers. And, mostly, I can't wait for Peter and Olivia to overcome their past and fall back in love together with the Bishop family all back together again.

Carissa: For every hour to feel like it takes four weeks to watch. Is that too much to ask? I honestly cannot believe I'm counting hours on this powerful show.  

Riff on anything about the premiere and what's to come.
Nick: If walnuts are the money of the future when the Observers come I'm heading to Costco and stockpiling. Watch out Bill Gates I'm about to make bank!

Sean: I wish it wasn't just 12 more to be honest but it was pretty cool that we're in the future and back with the Observer take over. I get a kick out of the "future" scenarios and minutes in, I was invested. Resistance is futile.

Carla: The return of the book shop keeper, Edward Markham, was the first of many callbacks to come from previous seasons. I can't wait to see what other callbacks we will see in 2036.

Carissa: The day the Observers took over is fascinating to me. Where did Etta go? As much as I want the Bishops happy and healthy at the end, I don't want the world together, or there'd be no reason to push for a movie. Hey! It could happen. 

Carissa Pavlica is the managing editor and a staff writer for TV Fanatic. Follow her on Twitter and on Google+.


I liked the finale, just not sure that I loved it. But it left a lot of qteouisns to be resolved, even beyond the Olivia swap.I would like to see what the machine was. Who made this? was this the machine Walter made and discussed in season 1? and why was it specific to Peter? and assuming Peter and Olivinate hook up now that they are back, how is Peter going to feel going from sexy and outgoing Olivinate to the uptight emotion frozen Olivia when they swap back?Is that considered cheating? (ok just having some fun there) But it is a way to have the relationship happen, without it being all happiness. imo usually when a show finally breaks that sexual tension between two characters, the show goes down hill almost every time. This way we got a bit of it, but when she comes back, there will be that uncertainty Olivia has that Peter liked Olivinate better. In your guys opinion, does John Nobel get an emmy nod this year? maybe even a win? he's been great, but it will be tough competition with it being Lost's final season, and with Mad Men and Breaking Bad being so critically acclaimed.


2. It'll help
4. No
5. The discrepancy in Etta's age.

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As for the premiere itself - I loved it. The only complaint I have is that too much was going on. It took them five minutes to find Olivia, Walter was kidnapped, rescued and his brain got squashed, the Observers found out that Etta is part of the resistance, the plan fell apart before the first step was even made... it's just too much for one episode. There was very little time in between for actual character interaction. Things that I loved: the whole Peter and Olivia being separated thing is obviously not ideal, but it's really interesting to see how much losing Etta affected them both. Plus, when Peter told Olivia that he couldn't stop looking for "the perfect little soul" they made - that was the most beautiful thing he ever said. I also absolutely love Etta. It's so adorable when she calls Olivia and Peter mom and dad. She is the perfect combination of what I love the most about them. And that actress totally looks like she was made from Joshua Jackson's and Anna Torv's DNA.

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Olivia's reveal - well, I guessed that she was in amber, because obviously there was no way she was dead and her being 20 years older than Peter for the rest of the season was eqally unlikely. But the fact that Markham bought her as a coffee table... yeah, I didn't expect THAT. Will music heal Walter? I think it will definitely help him heal himself. As for September, I just really hope he isn't dead. I would love to see him again. Do you expect Agent Foster and Belly to turn up soon? I don't really care much about Belly, but Agent Foster? Hell, yes! Bring him on the team, we want him so much! What are you most looking forward to in the next 12? The Bishop family being together, that is really all I care about. I also hope they will show us more of what happened the day the Observers took over. Because that looked awesome. I wouldn't mind a trip to the other side at some point. What's going on out there?

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Fringe Season 5 Episode 1 Quotes

Peter: Olivia, I want you to meet Etta. Kiddo, come meet your mom.
Etta: Hi mama!

Etta: It's an egg stick.
Walter: What a miserable future.