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I felt so sorry for Abby and David. And I hope they will get back together...
Anyone else think it's weird how we haven't been introduced to Fitz's kids? I mean we're on the second season and they have been mentioned like twice! I can't help but find this weird, I for one would like to know how Liv got along with them.
Also, as much as I LOVE Olitz I'm glad about this whole Edison relationship happening, it's nice to have a little breather and Liv clearly needed to take herself out of Fitz's world and make do without him even if it is only for a little while (as we all know this relationship isn't going anywhere!) she won't realise that Fitz is the love of her life and leave Ed because she already knows that but she will realise that She can't LIVE without him and that's why she'll leave him!
meant everyone exept Olivia treats it as a team.
Again .. breaking up Abby and David in a really cruel way ( this must have opened very bad old wounds for her and she issnt thementally stablest girl ) protects them how exactly ? David will still investigate everything and maybe instead of hurting Abby how about INVOLVING her in it.
And someone here said oh she showed compassion by almost shredding a tear .. you chose to handle the situation this way so please dont cry about it.
For my taste she is just become too self righteous and not really involving people who lets face it are involved already.
They are a TEAM and everyone except Abby treats it as one. Thats why i just dont think the writers are doing a good job of making the audience like their main character. Look at the rating for the episode, im not alone in this.
I can't believe how much I enjoyed watching this Fitzless show tonight and I wasn't too sure at first. I definitely miss him and I'm not too sold on the Edison idea but Edi makes her laugh and how long as it been since she laughed. What also came through last night was how much she cares for Huck. There is so much backstory to cover and we have been given snippets here and there.
I just think the Scandalous world makes you open your eyes about what may be going on out there without anyone knowing it - what secrets and lies are hidden beneath all the GQ picture taking sessions. The underbelly of politics is pretty dirty and scandalous and most of us would have to cover our eyes to find out what all is going on.
"Hollis Doyle needs to be squashed before he has a chance to hurt James"
Miranda you are so right. Now that Charlie has informed Cyrus that he's in town looking for work, Hollis' days are numbered; plus none of the other 4 like Hollis anyway. But how can Cy, Liv, Charlie, Huck successfully kill Hollis and get away with it? Hmmm.
@Overthinking, for whatever it's worth, I did say happy or something LIKE happy. So no, she's not HAPPY-happy, but she's not moping into her popcorn by herself every night either.
I'm not shipping on Olivia at all. Love her. Want to see her do well without a man (or woman, as things might go). No Fitz, no Edison.
On the other point: I knew who the leak was as soon as the prescription was called in. I wasn't even looking at the TV, and it was still pretty much Shonda putting a big neon arrow in the room pointing to his head: THIS GUY IS THE LEAK. Very dissatisfying in the end.
Even David knows Olivia is a white hat. A little look under the covers and you forget all the good she has done and is doing. Abby, David will die if Olivia doesn't protect them. James will die if Cyrus doesn't protect him (gotta love Cyrus - come on, what a great character and what great acting) Hollis is a loose cannon, and whatever Olivia was bought in to fix, way back when, was big. So she didn't create the problem she tried to fix it. So let's give her a break. I loved the episode, like I love all the episodes. This show is so much different from anything else I'm watching on TV now, the inner workings of a Fixer in Washington, DC. Can you imagine if they had called in Olivia for President Clinton (the Monica affair). We wouldn't even know who Monica Lewinski is - that was to make all you haters smile :-). Scandal is off the hook good.
this show is boring without fitz
I don't get the Olivia hate either. Probably because I have always seen Olivia for who she is rather buying into the show's claim that she is a "white hat." Olivia is NOT a "white hat." She is mearly the best of the bad lot in her political circle, but that is not saying much. While she has acted to save Abby and David's lives, the fact is that she has never tried the most obvious solution to everyone's problems which is "tell the truth! Go to the authorities! Don't clean up crime scenes or cover for criminals!" When all is said and done, the motivation for almost all of Olivia's actions is protecting Fitz. She may care about her associates, clients, etc., but Fitz comes before all of them. It is actually quite romantic and sad all at once.
You are right the spy story was not ridiculous, rather it was poorly acted and written. Worse of all, it was not entertaining.
How did anyone miss Olivia's vulnerability last night? She proved to the naysayers that she does have a heart and that all of this manipulation takes a toll on her. In Olivia Pope's world, the end does justify the means in order for the fix. She's protecting Abby and David from the government and maybe at her own expense considering who Doyle is. Cyrus and Olivia will form a united front against Doyle in order to protect James, Abby and David. If Doyle makes a move after Olivia because she's protecting them, Fitz will take him out, Cyrus will clean it up and mums the word with Mellie because she'll still be first lady. Who knows, Edison may turn out to be the sacrificial lamb (meaning, taken out to scare her) to show Olivia that shes in the ring with the big boy (Doyle) because we all know that they won't last.
Doyle is on to James for writing an exposé on him. David is obsessed with Cyrton/Doyle story and will be following up with James on his story about Doyle. This is a disaster that will unfortunately end up with a dead body.
Kudos to Huck for wanting to be normal. Hopefully he will still do a background check on his girlfriend. I don’t trust her and I still think she is a plant. It wouldn’t surprise me that she was the one working with Artie since we never got to see who was driving the black sedan. Maybe it was her.
Miranda I respectively disagree. Edison might make Olivia laugh and smile but she is not happy……you know what Cy said about happy people (democrat with a bible, grandma in a bikini LOL). Seeing the two together actually irks me. They hardly have any chemistry and are boring as all hell. No wonder they broke up before.
I still think Olivia wears the white hat. She is a Fixer and she has her job down to a T. Her professional and personal are intertwined and she doesn’t know how to separate the two. So when a personal issue (Abby/David) comes up she automatically think she has to be the Fixer. Yes we may not all like how this played out but in the long run I think breaking up David and Abby will save both their lives.
Speaking of saving lives, Charlie is back in town and he called someone (Cy) saying he is in town and is looking “to get back into business”. So someone is definitely going to die soon. My money is on James, Doyle or David.
Doyle is on to James for writing an
@Dana--Sure, I agree that a little transparency with David/Abby would've been an alternate route to take in getting them to stop digging. I don't like that she used Abby's past against David and that Harrison manufactured the story to break them up. However, she clearly knows enough to know that the fewer people who know about Hollis' particular brand of evil, the better, and it clearly hasn't stopped David from digging based on the closing scene. I think it'll all blow up soon enough.
As for happiness, nope, still don't see why Olivia gets to make all these life-changing decisions, often to the detriment of people, and then pine over normal. She's not normal, not while she's making these decisions and doing the things she does. She's lying to Fitz, to everyone at OPA, to Edison even because he clearly doesn't just see this as some rebound when that is clearly exactly what he is. Olivia is no white hat and people are just irritated that we keep being told she is.
C'mon! Are we going to pretend Olivia has to take the methods she does? There are alternatives. I get that she didn't necessarily have a choice with Quinn's trial and David was collateral damage but could Olivia, who believes all things can be fixed, really not have thought of some other way to get Abby and David to stop digging? I'm sorry, the end sometimes does not justify the means. Olivia can get just as ruthless and dirty as Cyrus can but at least Cyrus doesn't pretend that he's not a monster. She's gotten involved with the conspiracy, that's HER choice. If she's gotten nothing that's on her. She went into all this eyes wide open. Doesn't give her the right to meddle with other people's lives without them knowing even if she thinks it does.
As for happiness, nope, still don't see why Olivia gets to make all these life-changing decisions, often to the detriment of people, and then pine over normal. She's not normal, not while she's making these decisions and doing the things s
Come on ! That was one of the best episodes since the pilot. I absolutely ADORED it ... It had everything and it had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. This is just getting better and better, I can't believe it. I think it's a 5/5 episode, because it has the same tension than episode 5 or 6 of season 1. When we had the episode with the flashback to the election, time stopped, everything seemed to be in jeopardy. Tonight I felt it again. I loved it !
As for Abby/Harrison/Quinn/Huck/people Olivia's saved, I don't think any of them should follow her blindly without sometimes questioning her and what she's doing. Was Abby wrong in her methods (going behind Olivia's back, reporting to David) yes. But sometimes, leaders need to be questioned, so I have no problem with any of them doing that.
I'm...I don't think I'm shocked at the Olivia-hate? I can't find the right word. But Olivia might make other people miserable (breaking up Abby and David) but since she knows the inner workings of Defiance and we don't, I'm assuming that's to protect Abby AND David. And she's done all of this at the sake of her own life--see the scene with Verna last week or the week before when Verna asked what Olivia got out of all of this. She's pretty much gotten nothing, so yeah, a little happiness is okay by me and then maybe it'll trickle down. (1/2)
(Continued.. Got cut off.) all these comments dissing Olivia surprise me. She's the one who makes the hard difficult awful choices despite the pain it causes her.. It's sort of like Huck, he feels the guilt of all he's done, but with Olivia it is like.. she is entering her situation knowingly, knowing full well all the torment and blackness it will bring to her soul, but doing it because it's right... So yeah, team Olivia.
Sorry but what is this obsession to see Olivia happy? Considering how unhappy she makes everyone else, why should SHE be happy? Olivia has become too much of a demi-god for my liking, making and destroying things when she sees fit. I agree with Marcus, she has become very unsympathetic. This so-called relationship with Edison is a bore and a waste of our time. We all know it's going nowhere so really what purpose does he serve in the story other than being the distraction because Fitz isn't around? We already have too many irrelevant characters on the show (here's looking at you Quinn!), there was no real need to add another one simply so Olivia can 'get some'.
olivia is trying to protect abby by keeping her away from david...the further away she is from david rosen and his investigation the safer she is.its obvious that doyle will do anything to protect whatever secret they're all covering up, hence cyrus asking james to back off reporting on doyle.
so olivia in her own perhaps misguided way is trying to protect those she cares about without implicating them and putting them in harms way.
I'm sorry but no one can call any storyline on Scandal ridiculous, not after the Petraeus scandal. Nope, I refuse to accept it.
I personally loved the spy storyline, I thought it was an ingenious and entertaining way to engage audiences into uncomfortable questions. Making us ask ourselves if our society has failed these people, these former soldiers ( at home and abroad soldiers) who have to re-assemble their lives with barely any support from the rest of us. When they have sacrificed their lives to take care of our country as whole. The current Petraeus story is definitely scandalous, but it also brings to mind the ridiculously high divorce rates in military families. It reminds us that these vets whom we lionize are also vulnerable, breakable human beings. And unlike Simone, I thought the storyline and acting did it absolute justice. I felt the pain and anxiety of the spies( especially Huck) and it broke my heart.
terrible episode ..
i am slowly but surely starting to really dislike Olivia. I just get a sense of arrogance from her towards people who love her unconditenially. Maybe there is some half ass reason why Abby cant be with David but doing that to someone as fragile as Abby was plain cruel. Sorry no justification.
Note to writers .. making your lead unsympathetic is a pathway to disaster.
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