The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "The Five"

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The Vampire Diaries flashed all the way back to the 12th century on "The Five."

And while TV Fanatic staff members Matt Richenthal, Miranda Wicker and Leigh Raines aren't delving that far into history, they are here to analyze events from last night and break down all we witnessed and learned...


What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Matt: Probably Klaus positively losing it on Rebekah after he killed Alexander. For multiple reasons: Joseph Morgan is never better than when he's angry; Claire Holt never better than when she's crying; and it was a flashback scene. Those get me every... single... time.

Miranda: ELIJAH FLASHBACK!!! Ah. Sorry. Got a little carried away with myself. But, yeah, seeing Daniel Gillies on TVD again is always great. My runner-up favorite was Klaus, Rebekah and Stefan at dinner and Stefan's wry "there's a million other people I'd rather have dinner with right now." Stefan provides a weird sort of balance to Klaus and Rebekah and I like seeing the three of them together.

Leigh: Even though it shouldn't be my favorite for moral reasons, it was watching Elena and Damon dancing at the frat party. Elena never has fun. Seriously, never!

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Should Stefan really make a secret alliance with Klaus?
Matt: Of course not. But, as I wrote about in my review, Stefan is the Grand Chess Master of The Vampire Diaries. He's always thinking multiple steps ahead and likely has plotted out a course of action for how to turn on Klaus before Klaus turns on him. Just think of how well all other schemes involving getting rid of Klaus have worked out... oh, right. Damn.

Miranda: Not ever. After last season, our gang should know one thing: never trust a vampire you can't kill. Which means never trust Klaus. Or Rebekah, for that matter.

Leigh: No! Klaus is Klaus. It's nice to see Stefan's humanity and to see him want to trust people... but no.

Okay, NOW do you feel sorry for Rebekah?
Matt: Yes. But do you know who I feel sorry for the most? Myself! No more Claire Holt on my screen for who the heck knows how long?!? Thanks, Julie Plec. Thanks a lot.

Miranda: After last week's Round Table, I'm feeling positively clairvoyant. Unlike Beks, apparently. How did she NOT see what was coming when lover boy had that dagger and ash and started talking about how it kills vampires? HOW? Even if she didn't know what exactly that dagger was yet, she had to know he knew! Last night didn't make me feel sorry for Rebekah. It made me want her to vamp-punch Klaus in the face for being such an ass, though.

Leigh: I think so. If you lived 1,000 years with Klaus are your brother, you'd probably go a little psycho too.

More surprising: Jeremy being useful, the existence of a cure or Professor Shane being aligned with Connor?
Matt: I may not have been flabbergasted by the Shane/Connor alliance, but I'm the most excited over its potential. Both characters have been well integrated into Mystic Falls and there are just so many directions in which this story can go.

Miranda: Professor Shane! I thought I was creeped out by his Mr. Robinson vibe with Bonnie. Turns out I was creeped out because he's Team Five. Is it just me or does anyone else think the "cure" will most likely be something very much like "death" and not so much like an actual cure?

Leigh: I love when Jeremy is useful. I don't believe there's really a cure and saw that professor was shady from a mile away.

Elena and Damon feeding at a frat party: Dumb idea or REALLY dumb idea?
Matt: This never made any sense from the outset to me. Why did Damon and Elena accompany Bonnie to the college in the first place? Damon needed a lesson from a professor he never heard of about feeding on humans? The dance scene was fun and it was freaky to watch Elena get so into it, but the reason for placing Damon and Elena there never came together.

Miranda: Plain old dumb idea. The dumbest part of it was leaving all those bite wounds behind. Otherwise, Frat Boy Buffet was a great cover. Damon and Elena sure seemed to enjoy themselves. At least until Buzzkill Bonnie showed up. Witches. So judgy!

Leigh: That roofie guy totally deserved it. Besides, it was a murder party, people were drunk and the blood was masked. Dare I say it was a good idea?


All I can say is after watching 4X04 is that, I HATE ELENA, now! She is openly using Damon, now! 4X04 was heartbreaking for Damon. I so hate Elena now. Can't stand her. She so freaking love Saint Stefan but dances and ENJOY with Damon but then she does not want to become like Damon and she "CARES" for him! A very confused bitch! :) P.S. I only watch this show mainly for Damon. And then, Caroline. Tyler. Klaus. Delena. So, I don't give a damn about other characters.




Good episode! I thought Klaus looked very pretty with long locks - anyone else think that? And the cure! awesome now we have a through line for the show. I think they convincingly built up the compelling need to find a cure. Elena is driven by love and compassion - thats one thing that makes her so desirable to the two brothers. I guess Damon doesnt realise that in fact he loves elena's innocence.... I can imagined there will be a moral choice regarding the cure in the finale. There'll be some catch like many people have to die if they take the cure or something like that. Elena will refuse to sacrifice others and enter season 5 Im frustrated that stefan is being set up not to tell Damon about the cure - I like the brothers working together. Maybe he will tell damon so that they can foil Klaus dastardly intentions re: the cure? Rebecca has fabulous presence as an actor.


I saw the cure coming a mile away, but in a way I like that it was introduced. My only wish is that it's not used in order to turn back Elena. I honestly think the purpose of this season, and the fact that Stefan is keeping it a secret, is to show that while Stefan becomes more and more determined to 'save' Elena, she feels a stronger kinship to Damon and ultimately ends up wanting to remain a vampire. It won't necessarily be for Damon's sake, but I can't see any reason why Damon would want to go back to being a human, and I suspect Elena is a lot more like Damon than Stefan as far as her vampirism goes.


1. There were so many, but got to say that I grinned alot when proffesor Shady was smirking at Connor. I hope Julie Plec and the other writers have made a VERY good plan out of this, because this have to be good.
2. No, he shouldn't, but then again, he should. I mean what if Klaus does erase every memory? That would be frustrating, but I think that Damon will find out somehow, he always does.
3.I kind of always feel sorry for Rebekah whenever she cries and people stab her in the back or just stab her.. But this pushed it, I mean even the man she fell for even though if he was one of the Five, stabbed her.. That's so sad, but still I don't like her.
4.Well, we saw the possibility for Jeremy being useful last episode and this episode he didn't do so much then just the usual; threatened to do something and then erase his memory, classic Jeremy Gilbert day, and not the cure, because Stefan being human again or killed (because I think "the cure" actually kills you) would be weird and probably some end of the show, Klaus having it for Elena seems legit, because she does become some sort of human again in the books, with all of the angel power wings aside, but she dies in the middle of it, so I don't know.. And last Damon taking it un purpose would be similar to the books too. So I would go with Professor Shane and Connor. Although I'm kind of bored with Connor, being so strong and like a human vampire (if that makes any sense)I just don't see the end of him, but the history of the Five intrigues me, Jeremy possibly could be one of them in some future and how professor Shane fits in to all of this is very interesting..
5. It wasn't a dumb idea at all. A good coverage and it made sense. Damon did say why they were going there to Stefan and even Bonnie understood why. To get used to have many people around her without having the cravings. I mean, there are hardly any people left in Mystic Falls. They all get used as hot waitresses for Klaus's fancy dinners and Rebekah's catwalk models and they all fly around getting bitten all the frickin' time. A GOOD EPISODE; I LOVE ELIJAH, WHERE WAS CAROLINE, TYLER and this new girl HALEY.


Why was the Damon and Elena thing dumb? Damon's definitely more qualified than Stefan to teach Elena - he may be bad but he's in control. Going out of town where nobody knows you is pretty sensible. And there's probably no better place to feed than murder themed party - everyone's covered in fake blood already and biting someone isn't going to be that noticeable in a noisy room full of drunk people dancing and making out. And they didn't go to the lecture for a lesson on feeding on humans, Bonnie was there to see the professor and Damon wanted Elena to pick a victim.


1. Flashback scenes duh! 2. Like he had a choice! They want the same thing, Elena to become human again 3. Yes poor becks!! Hate her being used like that!! And daggered for the millionth time! 4. Shane x Connor that was unexpected, I was sure the professor was gonna (genuinely) be team bonnie! 5. It felt dumb cuz the rest of the show overshadowed it and made it look pointless!


Vampire Diaries... what an amazing show! This has to be one of my favorite supernatural shows on air right now. It seems like the story line gets better as the season progresses. Do you guys and girls think Elena is going to lose control?? By the way Happy Dia De Los Muerto (Day of the Dead)! I saw this really cool Facebook app today from the band, Delta Rae, and it's perfect for Dia De Los Muertos. It gives you the photo opportunity to wear a calavera (skull mask).. FUN! Check it out:


Professor Shane seemed shady from his first moment. Perhaps just the lighting in his classroom did that for him. So I wasn't surprised that he is hanging with Conner. I was however quite surprised that they revealed that aspect so soon. I thought they were going to drag out the good guy/bad guy thing out for at least a few episodes. Kind of like they did with Alaric where you weren't sure whose side or his motives at first.


The serie and the books don't really have the same plot. So it don't have to be Damon

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The Vampire Diaries Season 4 Episode 4 Quotes

Klaus: I was feeling benevolent.
Stefan: You're never benevolent.

You're the one whose getting me through this, no matter who teaches me how to feed.

Elena [to Stefan]

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