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@huisclothes - I agree that they would have a hard time backing up at this point. I see it as the 18 wheeler driving up a two lane mountain road....as the road narrows, there is absolutely no way to turn around. The driver is forced to drive ahead, even though he/she may run out of road ahead. How much more darkness and character agnst can the show portray,before the audience wanes,is a question I keep turning over and over in my mind. I've been watching some older episodes and really enjoy the lighter tone of the show with occasional pathos from Patrick. I guess it is what has endeared him to me. Light hearted silliness mixed with heartbreak makes me want to "fix" him. Now, events have taken him down (or) up a path that may not be negotiable
Maybe it is just a downer mood today, but I could see the show ending with him killing the nemisis, but losing his life also. My hope is that Bruno Heller will find that turn around at the end of that road

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@huisclothes - I see what you're saying, but assuming they get they 7 seasons they want, can you really have the status quo for two more full seasons? Won't that get old? At least the flirty dynamic they used to have was light and fun to watch. This is just all angst all the time. Lisbon seems to be really suffering. That's not a fun long term situation to watch play out. A lot of people really liked the flirtatiousness they used to have (including me). This is like sitting down to watch a romantic comedy, and half way through having it turn into The Bridges of Madison County or, even worse, Revolutionary Road.

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@km i agree with your better half. think there's stuff that bubbles to the surface every now and then but don't think it would serve the story right now. think they struck exactly the right note in the past year: from "i haven't been sleeping" to "love you, teresa" to the hand holding to the "she's the first woman you've...with" to "you kissed her!" to "i'm your partner, not her" to "now you're really lying!"
think we've gotten quite a lot of development in the romance area - and not flirty stuff - serious and painful for the most part. don't think we go back to light and flirty from here. it's now a radioactive topic between them. don't know how much further they can go without "going there." we don't wantto venture into that "technical virginity area" (under the sweater but over the bra). things will get silly.

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I suspect that the only way that we, the audience, will see Jane's feelings for Lisbon is when she becomes lost to him. Either she will become involved with someone else, legitimately or undercover, or by being harmed. Show history suggests harms way. They will present it in a way that people who want to see worry and distressed friend can have that interpretation, and those who see agony over believed loss of soulmate will feel vindicated. And, @Watcher is right, there is a vocal anti-shipper crowd. My better half is sort of with that crowd. I say sort of, because he sees all the flirty scenes and thinks it is delusional to ignore them, but he does not think an ongoing romance will help the story. He's the let them cling to each other when RJ is dead, walk off holding hands into the sunset type.

Huisclothes

think if one of them exposed feelings to the viewers; not each other, it would turn the dynamic on its ear. every scene between them would have a completely different resonance. we'd lose a lot, the ambiguity and frankly, the push/pull that's worked so famously and we'd gain a lot; poignancy, constant possibility of a public declaration and wild sex. i vote for the former because i like the blue balls effect they're giving us. dropperful by dropperful. like the chinese water torture.

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@Entwife - I think you are probably right. I think part of it is that they are afraid to alienate any of the viewers. While there are many shippers, there are also people who hate the idea of Jane and Lisbon together. Some of them get very hostile at the very suggestion (that hostility is odd to me, but whatever.) As long as they keep things ambiguous, they think they can hold on to all the viewers and get renewed for season 7. Keep in mind they were on the bubble most of this season.

Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I think that plays as much of a role in things, if not more, than artistic vision does.

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In reality, I expect very little movement in Jane and Lisbon's relationship from the writers. And what will be shown will probably not be direct or said and will be ambiguous enough to be subject to interpretation.

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The way the writers have been developing relationships throughout the seasons, I can't see Jane asking Lisbon to wait for him, even if he admits he loves her, or vice versa. He respects her too much and doesn't want her wasting her life, waiting for something that may never happen. I can see him trying to push her into the arms of another guy and feel miserable about it. That would add drama, he would still be the same tormented Jane and at least we would all know how they feel.

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huisclothes, for the sake of drama, one of them could slip and expose their feelings publicly (or at least to RJ). That would set RJ on a murderous path targeting Lisbon and bring the series to a close with a major nail-biter of a conclusion to save Lisbon and kill RJ. In this case, the plot might actually work best with the secretly declared love. It would give a reason for a dramatic life-or-death situation for Lisbon as a series windup. We would also get some dramatic tension along the way when a slipup seems close. As it is, all we get is a couple of people suffering endless emotional tension, which doesn't have all that much dramatic value. After a while, camera shots of suffering facial expressions starts getting old.

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@Entwife - Sam wasn't married at the time of their heroic journey! I think Rosie is what we now refer to as a beard :D




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