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Yea, it is middle school. And Tony has never behaved like a middle schooler, right?!? Hmm, I recall in season 1 in the episode "Dead Man Talking" that all Tony could think about was making out with the girl they were investigating, only to make out with her and find out that "she" was actually a "he" and his obvious distress at that. I also recall all his comments about all the women he has slept with over the years. There also how he would ogle Ziva's behind when she would bend over or how he told her he was looking down her top. Gee, kinda middle school behavior to me. How about Abby and all the jumping around and silliness and the things that she does on a regular basis? Middle school. And how about the times that Tony and McGee have rough housed with one another? Very middle school. Do I care? No. But Ziva is hardly the only one who has displayed middle school behavior!

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In Boxed In Ziva made it a big point to invite everyone but Tony - a little middle school, don't you think? As far as "tiva" goes, it has already taken a toll on the writing and continuity of the story. The quality of the crime story has diminished greatly as random "tiva" moments are shoehorned in and the show is turned into - The perils and love life of Ziva. This last season finale, with everyone's actual crimes, and even murder, being wiped away because the prosecutor turned out to be an overly ambitious jerk and Gibbs took a dangerous assignment is simply beyond ridiculous. The expected turning a blind eye to crimes committed with slates wiped clean is insulting to anyone who has an expectation of reasonable believability and doesn't have a herd mentality that all is fine because Gibbs says so.

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part 2
than that is what you will see. And since the ratings in season 10 have been higher than ever, I highly doubt that people are tired of the show and the drama of Tiva. Even if a million TIVA haters stop watching, it will still be the number one drama.

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Really?!? The relationship that Tony and Ziva had in season 3 is far different from the relationship they have now in season 10. Please, they have both grown over the years. So what? She didn't invite a guy she knew for a couple of months to dinner is a lot different than not inviting a friend out for drinks that you have been partnered with for 8 years. This was after Tony wanted to have a "post elevator us" that this occurred. I am tired of this argument. I recall in the episode "Shell Shock" part 1 that it was Tony that took down the subject that he and Ziva went to apprehend while Ziva stood by and watched. It was also Tony being the voice of reason when Ziva and McGee were going behind Gibbs back to hunt for Bodnar. There has also been the sensitive Tony who was there for Ziva after the death of her father and there for McGee when he was struggling with his father. How does that show him as incompetent and the butt of the joke? If you want to see the show as a soap opera than that is what you will see. And since the ratings in season 10 have been higher than ever, I highly doubt that people are tired of the show and the drama of Tiva. Even if a million TIVA haters stop watching, it will still be the number one drama.

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Amen Vickie. Amen!

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cont...the writers began to show it and then just stopped. I blame DiNozzo Sr. Seven years of insinuating he was abusive only to make him charismatic and the others all, Tony it's your fault that you haven't forgiven him (I'm looking at you, Abby!). Gibbs is a much better father and mentor figure for him. I guess I just want to see the team treat Tony with the respect and love he deserves instead of like an inconvenient nuisance that they're stuck with. And those are my grievances. I'll get off my soap box now.

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Please, just let Tiva go. They're not meant for each other, at all. It's like a bad Lifetime movie. There are a lot of fans who are sick of Tiva as well; just dead that, please. Also, for the love of God, if you don't stop making everything about Ziva and her loyalty to Gibbs and not Tony or Tim's, you're going to make me hate her, and I don't want that. And please treat Tony like the competent agent he is; stop having him always as the butt of the joke. They're really staring to treat him horribly. I've been pissed off about this since 'Boxed In' in season three. Seriously, recently Ziva gets pissed about Tony and McGee not inviting her to play video games and Gibbs defends her but it was fine to have a dinner party and blatantly not invite him all those years ago? And let Tim be the hero for once instead of always behind a desk and let Tony kick some butt instead of it always being Gibbs and Ziva. I also wanna to see more of that wonderful bond that Gibbs and Tony have, the writers began to show it and then just stopped. I blame DiNozzo Sr. Seven years of insinuating he was abusive only to make him charismatic and the others all, Tony it's your fault that you haven't forgiven him (I'm looking at you, Abby!). Gibbs is a much better father and mentor figure for him. I guess I just want to see the team treat Tony with the respect and love he deserves instead of like an inconvenient nuisance that they're stuck with. And those are my grievances. I'll get off my soap box now.

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If Tony and Ziva don't hook up (and they've been teasing it for years) then I agree, that the show will probably lose some of the Ziva demographic. But if they do hook up the show will finally push many of their core audience who will give up on the show that has turned into a soap opera written for teenagers. There will be a show SHEILDS, featuring super heroes up against NCIS next year which will likely be the type of show to cut into the Ziva demographic as well. I really hope that Ziva gets another gig and NCIS can get back to its roots of writing clever, witty episodes with intelligent crime stories featuring a quirky and flawed but competent team who actually like and respect one another. If the show continues to use Nickolodeon type romance formulas, they will lose their core audience.

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I beseech tiva fans not to see the first episode of season 11. The writers need to understand that we want tiva. We are fed up with will they/won't they.
If Tony and Ziva are a couple when the show returns, we will see the season 11 premiere. It's time for Tony and Ziva to get together.

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When season 11 is going to start?




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