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The Mentalist Round Table: "The Desert Rose"

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The Mentalist season 6 returned with a killer episode... literally, as "The Desert Rose" featured Jane and Lisbon doubting one another and questioning what to do next when it came to Jane's list of seven suspects.

Below, TV Fanatic's Christine Orlando is joined by The Mentalist fans from Twitter - Nerwen_Aldarion, SteeleSimz, and Donnamour1969 - to decide whether or not Teresa was right to share the list with Grace and why Red John chose to paint Lisbon's actual face. Gather around now and join the debate!

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What was your favorite scene from the episode?

Nerwen Aldarion: I'd say it was the last few moments. I loved watching Jane's terrified expression as he realized Red John had Lisbon. The painting on her face was just disturbingly awesome. Can't wait to see where that goes next.

SteeleSimz: I'm going to go with the argument scene between Jane and Lisbon after he finds out that Grace knows about the list. It shows that, despite all they have been through, they each believe that their way of catching Red John is the better way.

Donnamour1969: My favorite scene was Jane confronting Lisbon in the diner. Simon Baker plays this scene expertly, showing his anger, his betrayal, his horror at what Lisbon has done. I loved it when Lisbon says: "You're not my boss." That really defines the differences between them in their approaches.

Christine: I loved all of the above. Yet, even though I figured out that Lisbon was going to be abducted by Red John when she was grabbed from behind in the abandoned house, I still literally jumped.

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Was Teresa right or wrong to share the list with Grace?

Nerwen Aldarion: Hmmm, a VERY good question. I'm on the fence with this one. On one hand, Jane has always had very good reasons to keep the team in the dark. On the other hand, when it comes down to it, he has always needed their help. He can't do this alone and they are the only people he can trust. So in the end I think they will be stronger for it, but I have to say that I believe Lisbon probably should have warned him at the very least.

SteeleSimz: I think Lisbon was correct to share the list. She was doing what she thought was best even though she knew it was going against Jane wishes.

Donnamour1969: Given the results, and the position Lisbon was left in at the end of the episode, I'd say Lisbon made a bad decision. Red John knows that they know the suspects; he'll be expecting such surveillance and planning accordingly.

Christine: I understand why she made the decision to tell Grace, but I wish she and Jane could have sat down and told the entire team together in a secure location. That way they all could have discussed what to do next. Unfortunately, with Jane's need for secrecy and the constant sense of fear and paranoia that didn't happen.

Should Patrick regret sharing the list with Teresa and, if so, why?

Nerwen Aldarion: No he shouldn't. She's the most important person to him and as of now, the one with the biggest target on her back. She needs to know who to look out for and Jane certainly cannot do all of this by himself. He needs her. Granted I have my own reasons for why I think Jane did tell her in the season 5 finale but I don't think he truly regrets it. He's just afraid and that makes him say things he shouldn't.

SteeleSimz: No, he shouldn't regret telling her the list. Red John doesn't belong to Jane but rather to the team. They have been helping him chase the man and have suffered loses because of him.

Donnamour1969: Yes, Jane must be hating himself about now. The shock of hearing Red John's voice on Lisbon's phone has got to be huge. Given his tendency toward accepting blame for things he didn't do and not accepting blame for things he actually does,  I'd say he's in a world of self-loathing.

Christine: Should he? No. Lisbon's his partner and she needed to know. Does he regret it? Absolutely. I'm sure he feels that by telling her he's put her in Red John's crosshairs. But the truth is, she's always been there. The fact that they're getting closer to catching him is what's made this all more real.

Lisbon seems to be wondering if Red John could actually be psychic. Jane is vehement that there is no such thing. Do you believe in psychics?

Nerwen Aldarion: No and I'm not sure if Lisbon really believes RJ is a psychic. I think she is more wondering if Jane is in over his head. All of this time she's always thought that Jane was the smartest man in the room and now she has to be wondering if RJ is playing chess while Jane is playing checkers. Jane has been the man with the answers and now he doesn't, she's scared.

SteeleSimz: I'm going to go with Jane on this and say that I don't believe in psychics.

Donnamour1969: This is another area that defines both of them--belief in the unknown versus complete disbelief in anything spiritual. Because of Jane's own trickery and dabbling in the world of chicanery, he can't allow himself to believe in the unexplained--to him, everything must have an explanation. Personally, I think some people are gifted with a sixth sense, but no, I don't believe in psychics.

Christine: I'm willing to say that there are things in this world I cannot explain. That said, I also believe that 99.9% of the time there is a logical explanation. Although psychic readings are fun, I honestly don't believe.

Why do you think Red John painted Teresa's face?

Nerwen Aldarion: A warning. Remember, the face is always the first thing a person sees when they enter the room, it's the message BEFORE you see the body. In this case Lisbon is the message but I think it's more than just Partridge's death. I think this is a warning to Jane that while he didn't kill Lisbon now (I don't believe she is dead by any means) he most certainly could have, very easily. He wants Jane afraid. Jane doesn't give a whit about his own life when it comes to RJ but we've known since the season 1 finale that Jane won't sacrifice Lisbon for that. That was when RJ was tipped off that Lisbon was Jane's achilles heel and he is certainly ready to exploit that.

SteeleSimz: I think he painted it as a warning to Jane. He wants Jane to know that he still has the upper hand and that he can still destroy Jane's life with on single slice of the knife.

Donnamour1969: To show Jane who is really in control, that he has the power of life and death.  Obviously Lisbon will survive, so this is sort of Red John putting Jane in his place, like he's saying,  don't even try to pull one over on me, because you will fail and I will win.

Christine: To me, it looked as though Red John was painting a clowns face on her, as though he's laughing at Jane. If you think you can catch me you're kidding yourself. I'm always a step ahead.

With the list now down to six, what's your guess? Who is Red John?

Nerwen Aldarion: Haffner. I did my own analysis of the Red John suspects and put Partridge down at the bottom so I was thrilled to be right so far. I feel like Bertram, Stiles and Kirkland are far too obvious to be Red John, while Smithe and McAllister are so unknown it would feel a bit like being cheated. But Haffner has been in recent episodes in a big way, it would also fit with the idea of Bertram being a follower. He would be the "power behind the throne" pulling Bertram's strings so to speak and being a CBI agent would give him all of the access he needs to carry out his plans. But I'll admit to liking the idea of all 7 being Red John in some form of another fitting with "He is m-a-n" being "he is many" However, a part of me hopes I'm wrong. While I love being right it would be even more satisfying to be surprised.

SteeleSimz: I still have two top suspect and those are Haffiner and Bertram. However, I believe that Haffiner is Red John.

Donnamour1969: I was personally disappointed that Partridge wasn't Red John. He'd been my number one suspect since the Season 2 finale. He matched every clue and even had the same voice as the Red John in that finale. But now, given new Bruno Heller interviews, spoilers, and future episode titles, I'm thinking that all seven of the suspects could be Red Johns, or at the very least, six could be his minions, given Partridge's last words ("Tyger, Tyger"). Another new theory I've developed is maybe many on that list are actually bigger insiders than Jane is into the mind of Red John. Maybe they are actually helping Jane. I've long suspected Kirkland has some personal agenda for getting Red John himself. Time will tell, and clearly I've been wrong before...

Christine: There are so many great theories out there. I was kind of hoping it was Partridge. Stiles and Bertram seem to obvious and I agree that Kirkland seems too have his own agenda. Since I'm a big fan of the actor Reed Diamond I'm hoping it's Ray Haffner. That would be pretty cool.

C. Orlando is a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. Follow her on Twitter.

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I think K. Frye's trigger is audible and are the words tyger, tyger.

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The end scene with Lisbon was diabolical and just fantastic! They are creating one hell of a epic monster! It dripped with evil. Red John brutally murdered Jane's family and then to paint a smiley face on Lisbon's face was over the top crazy. I thought to myself, that has got to be the meanest thing I've ever seen. This was more then a taunt or tease. It was meant to rip a whole in Jane's soul. The kind of thing that can break you down and want to give up. The thing nightmares are made of. A tangible kind of evil we all secretly fear and never want to discuss. The kind of evil that test everything you believe in. Then I felt the urge to laugh really hard. His arrogance is absolutely baffling. Jane is going to hurt this guy bad for playing this hard!

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Mmm you are right about Kristina coming to mind too @entwife. Didn't think of that.

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Loved that too @ani :)

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That's a very interesting idea about Lisbon's painted face being something about either her condition (hypnotized) or a Kristina clue. I desperately want Kristina to show up again and Jane to figure out the hypnotic trigger and bring her out. Lots of info there I bet. But I just as desperately don't want lovely Lisbon to be tampered with. My most loved moment was when Jane realized that Lisbon was saying she'd lost confidence in him. I've never seen his face like that. It just kind of crumpled and he looked at her in disbelief like how could you say that. And it went right into his heart. And I can't talk about it anymore right now.

Anitraward1

My favorite scene was when Jane was interviewing the ball player. He played him right out of his socks. When they were going to the safe Jane rolled his eyes as if to say, what an idiot. It was so funny because he was smirking and dropping peanut shells everywhere. It was brilliantly played. It showed how skillful he is and why he was hired in the first place. Loved his playful nature! He really did remind me of Columbo! Fun scene!

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Thinking about that last scene and the smiley face painted on Lisbon ... what if it isn't supposed to be a clown? It differs
from the others RJ has painted because of the eyes. They are clown like for sure but they also look closed. So another interpretation is that they are meant to look shut, unseeing, blind or dead. Which brings Rosalind (sp?) to mind. And what kind of shape Teresa will be in (hypnotised? memory intact?) when she awakens. No further theory to offer -- I suck at them in any event -- but maybe that is the cryptic clue?

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Favourite scene was Jane and Lisbon argument.'You're not my boss' -this is what Jane used to tell Lisbon all the time.Now it was Lisbon who said it.It was intense.She stood up and confronted him.And Jane's face- priceless, he couldn't believe she put the under surveilance, plus that in a way he anticipated her next step!

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Favourite scene? Tough to choose. Loved the fight and the ending of course (in that order). May have loved Jane eating peanuts and the throwback to the pilot even more. I am amazed that Heller managed to include old style quirky funny Jane throughout an otherwise intense, densely packed episode and the stressful RJ chase. And make it work. Loved the entire thing. @Entwife, agreed on being miffed with VP. Surely she could have come up with something else to comfort Rigsby? (And why are they still both at the CBI if they are publicly an item?? Perhaps because everyone else has bigger fish to fry for the moment.)

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Haffner's my guy, has been for awhile now. But I still only give him 60%. He's got the looks Rosalind described, has hyper-uber electronic surveillance skills, is a Visualize member and was probably at the Ellston farm at the time of the murders in Red Barn. I dunno. He's just my guy, but don't go by me, I stink at whodunit and most of it is gut feel. Figured Partridge would die first. Don't think it's the others for reasons already stated. Kirkland especially because he was set up almost perfectly to be The Guy. But picking him is like picking Oil Can Harry. Too obvious and probably is running his own agenda. I can't wait to find out what it is!