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The Mentalist Round Table: "The Red Tattoo"

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The Mentalist presented Patrick Jane with his latest clue to Red John's identity this Sunday. It was "The Red Tattoo."

Below, TV Fanatic Christine Orlando is joined by The Mentalist fans Kate and Katie as they decide if Ray Haffner has serial killer potential and why Cho is so unlucky in love.

Join in the debate and discussion now...

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Ray Haffner. Creepy jerk or Red John? And who is your top suspect now?

Kate: Honestly, I have no idea who Red John is at this point and give huge kudos to Bruno Heller and the writers for this. For me it is fruitless to guess as they could make any one of them Red John. I would really rather have an aha moment at the Big Reveal. Having said that, Haffner remains a credible Red John and is in my top 3 with Bertram and Stiles. He is certainly confident and menacing enough. And Reed Diamond? Fantastic in this episode.

Katie: Ray Haffner is definitely a creepy jerk, but I'm not sure he has what it takes to lead the people. I have a strong feeling that he is working for Red John, but I don't think he is Red John. My new suspect is Bret Stiles, just because he has a cult and has what it takes to get people to believe and follow insane things.

Christine: I love the actor, Reed Diamond and Haffner's been at the top of my list for a while, but after this episode he just felt like a creepy jerk.  Suddenly I'm liking Reede Smith as Red John. Something about the way he sneered at Kirkland and told him that Tiger, Tiger even let a low level guy like him in made him sound like a plausible suspect to me.

The Mentalist Round Table

Would you like to see Cho have a real love interest?

Kate: Our man Cho has been unlucky in love so I would not deny him finding someone. However, my interest in characters' love lives lies elsewhere. You know who I am talking about Bruno & Co. As an aside, I thought Cho was remarkably unfazed by the revelation that Kira was playing him. What a guy.

Katie: Of course! I was really bummed that the girl had come just to plant a bug. Cho needs a lady in his life! I think he is secretly jealous of the happiness Rigsby has with Van Pelt, because he wants to feel that happiness too!

Christine: The guy just can't catch a break when it comes to romance. I hated that Kira was just using him to get information yet I was still hoping she could be a real love interest at some point. Cho really could use a personal life and although I don't want it to take over the show I'd love to see a little time devoted to it.

How should Jane get the men on the list to remove their shirts?

Kate: Well, we've all seen the preview for next week so it looks like that cat is out of the proverbial bag and Jane is willing to go to extremes to get the suspects to bare arms. It would be less sensational, but I wonder why he wouldn't simply bring all suspects in to the CBI and ask them to roll up their sleeves. Anyone who refuses would likely be the guy. Don't know the civil liberties/reasonable and probable grounds rules around that.

Katie: He should get them to take off their shirts in some sort of trick. I mean if he outright asked them to take them off, Red John would suspect something. It ought to be interesting to see how he does it.

Christine: Group sauna? Beach vacation? Free massages?  So many ways to go, most very funny. In reality I can't even imagine how this will all play out.

Visualize has played such a pivotal role in the Red John story. Do you think the CBI should send someone in undercover and if so who?
 
Kate:
I really don't have a sense where Visualize fits into the larger story and I don't know what CBI would hope to accomplish by sending someone in undercover now. Events are moving too quickly, they have bigger (Red John) fish to fry and putting someone on the inside at Visualize at this point would not pay off for a long time, so I would say no. (Maybe someone is there already ... ).

Katie: Visualize is creepy. They've been around for so long, I think that it makes sense that Red John will come from Visualize. It may be bad though, to send someone in. I feel like every time the team tries to one up Red John, it comes back and bites them in the butt.

Christine: I was really hoping they'd send Grace in on an undercover mission to infiltrate the cult. It could make quite a compelling story?

What was your favorite scene from this episode of The Mentalist Season 6?
 
Kate:
There were so many great scenes: Jane and Cho ("the plot thickens”), the Lisbon-Van Pelt-Haffner exchange at the hotel, Cho (priceless) and Rigsby in the park, the dash to Kira Tinsley's house (inTENSE, but I have to go with Jane and Haffner verbally sparring as they left the crime scene. Haffner's comeuppance line followed by “you're a worse psychic than you were a cop" did it for me. But, hey, what was that hand on Jane's shoulder action by Haffner? Creepy.

Katie: My favorite scenes were the creepy encounters Lisbon kept having with Haffner. I really felt like they allowed us a better look into Haffner's character.

Christine: I loved Jane and Haffner's verbal sparring. It's like Haffner just kept looking for a way to rattle Jane but he never let it happen. I do look forward to seeing more of these two together in the future.

C. Orlando is a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. Follow her on Twitter.

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The twin does need to come into play. After all he's only missing and no body has been found. For all we know he could have been the one in the limo on episode 100 telling the lady to tell minelli about Jane. Thus he's technically been around since the beginning.

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@ Dr. Doctor

One last and final thing! Bret Styles is for some reason working his Mojo on Van Pelt for some reason! He could care about RJ or he himself is controlled by the sociopath! Everyone else is! What would be the odds you would find 7 or 8 people (in law enforcement ) that are sociopathic without hypnotism or some form of mind control?

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@ Tracey Noble

I agree. I think he's working his mojo on van pelt because he cold read her and saw she has a troubled past thus becoming easier to manipulation and hypnotic suggestion.

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Really believe that kirklands twin brother is red john,he fits the description of the blind woman who knew red john and also owns a cabin in the woods surrounded by pine(blind woman says red john smelled of pine),also Jane never knew Kirkland had a twin so he could still realistically be an active person on the list if they are identical twins.

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@ Henke7

makes sense.In this manner Bruno heller didn;t lie: the name was on the list.Kirkland but Michael.....must be a twist...is impossible to be that simple..

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Jane and Heffner exchanges were my favorite. I did like Cho and Rigsby in the park, and Lisbon-VanPelt-Heffner at the hotel. I don't care who RJ is as a person, it is the story of how one chooses to act that fascinates me.

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I love anything with Simon Baker, especially when he smiles.
Like the Cho Rigsby banter.

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I would love some twist to who RJ is, but right now all things seem to point to Stiles. It would be interesting if Kirkland's twin was RJ, but I highly doubt it. I just want some big interesting twist ....an aha got you moment. Not sure we will get it.

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" I'm surprised the two of you didn't become lifelong friends the moment you shook hands" So Red John is someone Jane would be great friends with if something didn't go wrong when they first met to make them not become friends.

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Cho doesn't need a great romance but a date or 2 would be nice.
I don't have a favorite but Cho/Rigsby at the fruit cart is great.

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I think RJ is Kirkland's twin brother - after all, he could have been posing as Bob when he shook Jane's hand. Bob said he joined Visualize/RJ/

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1. I was leaning toward Haffner earlier, but now I’m thinking it’s Bertram. I’m not sure how I’d feel if we don’t see Stiles for 5 episodes, then suddenly he shows up “Ta da! It’s me!” Malcolm McDowell is a busy guy, though.
2. I’m not sure I trust the tattoo clue. What if the girl(sorry, Cho!) was hired by the Tyger, Tyger group, not Red John? Actually, that whole business made no sense. She was a terrible P.I.!
3. Maybe VanPelt is with Stiles to go undercover, after all. If so, she’s in a great deal of danger.
4. My favorite scene was when Haffner told Lisbon and VanPelt to stay away from Jane. Lisbon’s been nervous around all of the RJ suspects, until right there when one of them threatened Jane. She really let him have it! I loved that.

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Yay, great review&round table again :) It's almost a shame the RJ story is almost over, it would've been fun to continue this for a long time! I'll repeat what I've said ever since s5 finale; Haffner, Smith and McAllister would make terribly disappointing Red Johns. The rest I can live with, although not happily ever after. I'm really sad Cho's "love interest" turned out to be a scam. They had nice chemistry and I absolutely love Cho's dry lines. And as a male viewer, Kira would've been an amazing addition to the show.

The Mentalist Season 6 Episode 5 Quotes

You're so much smarter than everyone else but it isn't helping you catch Red John is it?

Haffner

Your blind struggle against fate. So heroic. So fruitless. Bret says there's a lot to be learned by watching Patrick Jane so we all do.

Haffner
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