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The Mentalist Round Table: "Wedding in Red"

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The Mentalist invited fans to a "Wedding in Red" this week, as Rigsby popped the question to Grace and the two had one of the quickest engagements on TV.

Below, TV Fanatic Christine Orlando is joined by The Mentalist fans Foresti Purge, @nehakatti and Nerwen Aldarion to debate where McAllister ranks on the Red John list and if Grace's choice in wedding attire was just a little too weird.

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What was your favorite scene from the episode?

Forseti Purge: When Jane ruins the wedding the first time. It's hilarious in a dark, sociopathic way, kind of like drug dealers going to twelve-step meetings to peddle drugs, but this is why we like Jane. IRL he'd be living in a supermax now, but his selling point is that he couldn't care less about limits, and this scene shows us just that.

@nehakatti:  So many amazing scenes! From jane helping Lisbon with her jacket to him sneaking a peek at the wedding. But my favourite, Jane and McAllister analyzing the crime scene while Lisbon looked on. That sense of competition between them was amazing, is what I think a conversation with Red John would look like..

Nerwen Aldarion: The car scene with Rigsby and Cho had me laughing, classic fun between those two. Jane telling Lisbon he was ordained was funny too and I loved her face when he said he could marry her off in a minute (And the sexy way he said 'Don't tempt me' had my Jisbon heart pounding) Jane being the minister is probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I'll also admit, while I'm not a die hard Rigspelt fan I thought their wedding was very sweet, particularly watching how Simon Baker played his emotions in that scene.  I know that's like five scenes but I can't ever choose a favorite scene in my life.

Christine: There was something about the way Jane watched from the doorway asWayne and Grace got married. So many emotions played out across his face. Joy for his friends and yet there was a sadness there, perhaps remembering his own wedding and all he'd lost. Kudos to Simon Baker for conveying so much without saying a word.

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McAllister's fear of heights. Did Lisbon and Jane read him wrong or was McAllister playing with Jane all along?

Forseti Purge: He was playing with Jane all along. Beware the man whom nobody fears. He may be the one who knocks.

@nehakatti: I think, McAllister, Smith and Bertrem are working on tricking Jane. He was clearly not afraid of heights even though he acted like it and now Dr. Miller's analysis might also be tainted because of that.

Nerwen Aldarion: Maybe Jane and Lisbon saw what they wanted to see or perhaps it was more about McAllister being none too willing to climb a ladder at the time. I myself don't have an extreme fear of heights but I'll climb a ladder if I have to, if I don't, well then I'll gladly pass the job to someone else. This doesn't seem to eliminate or validate Mcallister as a suspect in any way.

Christine: So confusing…in a really fun way. I have no idea if they just misread the situation or if he's really playing with them but I agree with Foresti…he could be far more dangerous than most believe.

Did you find it odd that Grace kept her wedding dress?

ForsetiPurge: Not really. Jane kept a bloody smiley on his wall.

@nehakatti: It's pretty odd, yes. But so is being engaged to a guy and never knowing he is a psychopath.

Nerwen Aldarion: That she kept it? Not really, I could see her holding on to it as a "what might have been" situation. Her choice in groom was flawed but not her dress. What I did find odd was that she just happened to have her dress in Napa. Who knew every woman carried their wedding dress with them on a case.

Christine:She must have really thought that was the perfect dress because I couldn't imagine wearing the same dress I'd bought to marry a Red John minion. Nerwen, I'm going to go with she somehow had it sent from home…but yeah. It did just kind of magically appear.

Give me your thoughts on Wayne and Grace's wedding. Loved it? Hated it? Or anything in between?

ForsetiPurge: It's an okay wedding, not bad, but not great either. The writers had stretched their relationship as far as they could, and now they've got no more story options left but to marry them.

@nehakatti: I think the wedding was amazing. It would have been perfect if Ben was there.

Nerwen Aldarion: Their wedding was perfect for them, simply and sweet. THe best part was Jane watching from the side. He never likes to display his emotions even when he was genuinely happy for them, most likely because he knew it would also make him sad. That wasn't something he wanted them see.

Christine: I think it was perfect for them. A little rushed perhaps but since I haven't spent years waiting for the moment I thought it was very sweet. But if we ever get a Jisbon wedding I expect a lot more buildup.

Where does Sheriff McAllister rank on your list of Red John suspects?

ForsetiPurge: He is my first. He always has been. As a writer, you can't plan too far ahead, and only 2 out of 7 suspects appeared in Season 1. And Partridge is a textbook Red Herring--nobody, except yours truly of course, would suspect the guy who showed up in the episode after the pilot.

@nehakatti: In the top 3, along with Haffner and Bertrem.

Nerwen Aldarion: McAllister still ranks rather low on my list, perhaps above Smithe now but still below Kirkland, Bertram, Stiles and of course my number one choice, Haffner

Christine: This one had me looking at him in a whole new light. He's a lot smarter than I ever gave him credit for and he certainly had a competitive chemistry with Jane that's I'd expect from Red John. Right now he's my number 2 guy behind Haffner.

C. Orlando is a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. Follow her on Twitter.

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it could possibly be no one on this list. i think someone involved that we least expect. things with vanpelt and rigsby a little to smooth. considering they are leaving something could be up with them or at least one of them. vanpelt was in love with that guy who turned out he was deciple of rj.

Jarosedlak

PJ could not be RJ ( in "direct way" ), but he wants to kill all 7 suspects... ( double-personality, because of so strange behavior in some episodes...

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@kate- same here.They are the best.I will send them my psychiatrist bill though:))

Katempw

Aiyeeah, tomorrow IS Sunday @creamy. But here's my dilemma. I am ordinarily a very patient person. This show short circuits that. I wait ALL week for Sunday to arrive. When I finally watch an episode, it is like reading a good novel. About half way through, I become anxious that there is too little left … after which there will be an entire week before the next. And that interferes with my enjoyment of the back end of the episode. Can’t win :) . Even when I’m watching I’m obsessing over the next episode. Which has to mean that the writers, actors and crew are delivering an amazing product that has me completely hooked. Kudos to Heller, Baker, Tunney & Co.

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@rational gal. Great points. I was thinking as far as the money and connections that he threatened Stiles so he would give him all the resources he needs and in return Smith won't kill Stiles.

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Oops I'll take that back. Stiles only in episode 6.

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Two new press releases are out now. Don't read this if you want to avoid spoilers! Episode 5 will focus on Visualize, and we'll have Haffner and Stiles in it. Jason Cooper is also back. Episode 6 features all remaining suspects as Jane tries to finally reveal RJ. Kirkland is not there so we can assume he dies this Sunday or he's at least no longer a suspect. Disappointed my two favorite suspects are gone but this is so exciting!

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Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that in the first scene of the episode Red Dawn, Rigsby is wearing a wedding ring? My money is on Rigsby as Red John.

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I just don't feel the evidence is compelling to buy into an Evil Twin theory. I'm sticking to that until I'm proven wrong!
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Red: more ideas about all on the list being involved: Partridge could indeed have been the "RJ" who saved Jane in the saran-wrap ep. Similar physique and voice and Partridge saying "Tyger Tyger" as he died ties into that. However, the saran-wrap voice is the same as on RJ's phone call to Jane after killing Partridge, so we are left with an anomaly. If we assume Jared's bloody partial note meant to say, "He is many..." that would support RJ as a mastermind directing several minions to do at least some killings. (The Volker arc may have suggested that.) This leads me to think Timothy Carter, as an RJ surrogate, killed Jane's family on RJ's orders. So Jane has already got his revenge - but would still want to bring down the mastermind RJ. If this is true, Jane will at least find some measure of peace from "gutting" Carter with those three gun shots.