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Carobachi, THAT is exactly the reasoning I'm going with re IDing RJ. He HAS to have major resources and the personal freedom to come and go as he wishes. And he HAS to be linked to Stiles, his enabler for whatever reason. Stiles said he knows more than anyone about RJ, he told Jane where RJ had taken Kristina Frye, he got Lorelei out of federal prison. Now THERE is some awesome money and power (he was even a personal friend of Ronald Reagan!) PLUS Visualize being a church with 1st Amendment protection from close investigation, the better to provide cover for RJ. The only question is who is most likely getting this help and protection? Kirkland has all the personal characteristics and I suspect controls Stiles because he found evidence that Stiles killed Farragut to gain control of Visualize back in the Red Barn days. That is a very weak spot for Stiles who likes to say NOTHING will ever be found out about him.

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...and people, McAllister HAD NO fear of heights. We were just supposed to think he did. He didn't overcome it, it was never there. Anyone who is afraid of heights would never be able to fake the kind of comfort he showed strolling across the roof. He looked like he was just walking across the regular ground. Maybe he was a tightrope walker earlier in life... ; )

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(continued)... You see Red John as some sort of uber-alpha dog who can't tolerate anyone thinking he's anything less than running the world. I see Red John as enjoying the necessity of his covert identity, that he's unexpected. If he came on at first with even as much charisma as Stiles, it would draw attention to him. I think part of Red John's deal is that he won't seem as creepy or as smart as he really is. I could sure be wrong, though! That's why it's going to be so fun to see how it shakes out. But this is why I never go for Stiles, and why low men on the totem pole like Haffner or McAllister stay in the running. My vote for most likely is still Haffner, unless Bob Kirkland kills him on his quest to knock off the fake list.

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@rationalgal- referring to what you said about how Red John must have access to money and power so he can play god with people (new identities, moving them, etc.) so he must be in a professional position that makes that possible: I say not necessarily. Especially if he has Stiles as his unwilling/evil fairy godfather. One thing is, he started out as a lone serial killer, and that is not a hobby that ambitious career men tend to get into, personalities that warped don't usually make it so high up the ladder. So I have never seen Red John as being a heavy hitter in his "day job". He may have gained access to money and such from vairous people he indocrinated over the years. OR he may have a wealthy, powerful enabler, as in Stiles. I have thought for a very long time, since the second time Stiles appeared in fact, that Stiles is not Red John but is closely connected to him in some obligatory fashion, either blackmail or familial ties or something like that.

Katempw

@Feint, I don't think we can rule anyone out. No matter who he is, Red John is obfuscating and misdirecting to make himself less detectible. Bruno & Co are doing the same: making every suspect look increasingly crazy so we conclude he is Red John (or is too obvious and therefore not Red John), then pulling back to make him seem least likely. It's a game of tennis, back and forth. I bet they are having fun messing with us :)

@Red, but I HAVE ruled out Partridge I'm afraid. Too twisted for my brain to figure how they could justify Partridge or his twin being RJ.

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Anybody think Partridge still might be alive and is really Red John. My theory is he had an identical twin brother who he killed or his twin killed him and is really Red John. Just a possibility. Your thoughts?

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I'll throw this here too before the next episode. I'm sure we have all noticed they've made every suspect so much more suspicious now. They are practically rubbing it into our faces that every suspect knows everything and more than Jane, and they are even working together for Red John. So far, the only character we have ruled out as Red John is Kirkland, and this is already from seeing half a minute of a promo video. Until now, he's been the most suspicious one, the one who fits all clues and descriptions. I'm starting to think that's his game. While the rest are increasingly suspicious, this one seems not to have anything to do with Red John, and is in fact hunting him too. It's all a clever ruse, he's Red John. ;)

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McAllister as Red John...well, this is only the third time we've seen him, the first one being around 5 years ago. Back in that episode, he was kind of simple and a little mysterious, but not quite dark enough to be RJ. Episode two of the season, we only saw him for a moment and he didn't really do anything. This time it was like the entire character changed and his behavior was off. Good try making him more suspicious, but he's not Red John. No way. Of the seven suspects, he's just above Smith and Haffner, but still behind the rest, including the already deceased Partridge.

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I enjoyed most of the episode despite it being more of a filler than an important part of the RJ hunt. Favorite scenes were probably Rigsby&Cho's conversation in the car and everything involving McAllister and Jane(these ducks love muffins!).

McAllister's fear of heights...quite uninteresting and frankly even weaker than last season's handshake clue. What next? RJ's favorite color is blue and we'll start looking for people who like blue things? Come on.

I loved the proposal and the wedding, and this is coming from a person who doesn't care for weddings/marriage irl, much less on TV. It was all good and natural and in my opinion everything belonged there and deserved the screen time. Jane crying was probably the saddest moment of The Mentalist for ages, I sure have missed these signs of him still missing his family.

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@Katempw, cheers!




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