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Arrow Round Table: "Blast Radius"

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Welcome to the latest Arrow Round Table!

This week, the panelists talk about Arrow Season 2 Episode 10 and discuss Laurel's investigation into Sebastian Blood, why nobody else sense's his deviant nature and what's in store for Roy and the Lance family, among other things.

Get into the discussion by joining staff writers Robin Harry, Nick McHatton, Hank Otero and Carissa Pavlica and don't hold back what you're thinking. As if we could stop you! 

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What did you think of Laurel's investigation of Blood, and what do you think made her suspicious?

Robin: She had a gut feeling, which I'm fine with. However, her investigation was preposterous. She automatically assumed criminal intent without evidence, stole a random piece of paper on his desk, tracked it to a mental institution -- and then immediately believed the delirious mental patient in the throes of psychosis. I mean, as viewers we know she right, but...seriously?

Hank: I think Roy and Sin's questions about Blood set her off no? She's right to investigate him, he seems too good to be true.

Nick: I'm absolutely loving it. A sleuthing Laurel is much better than a depressed Laurel! Her problems in the first half of the season aren't gone, we see her taking some pills in one scene, but now there's a bit more for her to do. Laurel worked at CNRI for years helping people in need. Originally, she might have latched on to Blood as a way to get back to those days, but as she interacts with Blood I think she picks up on the fact that's he a big phony. All those years of giving legal aid to people has probably given Laurel great instincts for spotting liars, and she picks up on Blood's scent quickly.

Carissa: Nick's answer is my favorite. Laurel has had a lot of time getting to know the seedier side of Starling City, and she should be able to spot a liar, given her legal background. Her father should have taught her a thing or two, as well. I'm happy she feels strong and sure enough about herself to get back into the game. Why let everyone else look after her city when she's perfectly capable?

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Why are Oliver and Lance so taken with Blood, so much so Lance overlooks Laurel's concerns about him?

Robin: They're taken with him because he's charismatic, and because he outwardly really seems to care about the city that's suffered so much recently. I can relate...I'm from a city where the mayor smokes crack. Sebastian would probably be welcome here too. Oliver particularly has his hope in Blood, and sees him as the person who could change the city so he wouldn't need to be the Arrow.

Hank: I honestly, have no idea. Don't like the guy and haven't liked him since day one. I imagine both Ollie and Lance have been fooled by Blood's constant campaigning and his attempts to save the city.

Nick: Blood represents the goals Oliver and Lance have for the city. The both of them are so happy to see a man putting the city first that they're willing to overlook any kind of flaws or inconsistencies with him. Plus, Blood is smooth and polished; he knows exactly what to say and who to say it to.

Carissa: I'm shocked at how easily they've fallen under his spell. It's as if they're just tired and so busy working these other angles that they think what help he's giving is a load off their backs. The name Blood should be a tipoff, they should both be better at reading people and the little things like bad things happening within close proximity to Blood while he doesn't get harmed should have raised their alarms. They're going to feel so bad when it all comes crumbling down.

I likened Oliver and Felicity to Samantha and Jake in Sixteen Candles. Since she's seeing Barry (while he's sleeping), do you think they'll focus more on partnership for now?

Robin: I think they made a point of using the word "partner" to establish a sense of equality between them. He's not the hero to her damsel in distress, neither is she his sidekick. With that clear and with Barry having conceded, I think they're going to start resolving the romantic tension.

Hank: I've always thought (though there is chemistry), that Oliver and Felicity make better friends/partners than lovers. I'm just not team Olicity... (ducks and runs for cover). I actually liked Felicity and Barry together, those two work for me. Hopefully, Felicity will make an appearance on The Flash!

Nick: For sure, at least until something with Barry changes. However, the partnership is necessary for any kind of development of any relationship. I don't know if I would ever want one (as much as I like their chemistry), but they need to be on solid and trustworthy footing before anything happens. Oliver telling Felicity she's his partner, not a sidekick, is a strong first step towards partnerships and relationships.

Carissa: I'm still not sold that they will ever be anything more than extremely attracted to each other, but that's alright. I like their friendship so much that I kind of hope they spend more time getting to know each other before ever going there. I'm also liking the idea of Felicity becoming Oracle in the Birds of Prey. While I don't want her to become a paraplegic, they've set her up to be Oracle, with her computer skills and incredible intelligence. Romance might get in the way.

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Tough break here for Laurel. The character is handcuffed on the Arrow installment "Blind Spot."

Shouldn't Roy be a little more concerned about what's going on with him?

Robin: I think he's very concerned; that's why he distancing himself from Thea. I think he's confused and scared and has no idea what to do.

Hank: Whatever is going on with Roy, the writers need to focus on him a bit more in the next few episodes. I'm not that interested in Roy right now, his storyline seems to be stalling. Maybe it's just me, I don't know.

Nick: What young guy wouldn't love to be damn near invincible and have super strength? He might be a little freaked out about what's going on with him, but I think he'll start with the thrill of it all before he gets to the freaking. I'm curious if Sara's warning to Oliver about Slade will hold true for Roy. The serum changes a person, and it's almost never for the better. Slade is already grappling with what the serum is doing to him on the island flashbacks, and, as we saw last year, the change probably hasn't been for the better.

Carissa: Again, I'm on board with Nick here. Either Blood or Slade will get to Roy and talk him into doing something with the, and given the current storyline with Oliver, Blood and Laurel, my bet is on Blood. Oliver will probably feel it's safe to entrust Roy with Blood. Oops.

Did you catch Lance ask about Arrow's mask? If he can see that then what the hell?

Robin: I think Lance could see the bottom of the mask, but not his full face because of the hood and the shadow it casts. Hey, it could be worse. Clark Kent just takes off his glasses.

Hank: Exactly, Nick, he's got to know Oliver is the Arrow... That green eye makeup wasn't fooling anyone. It's also possible, since he has a mask now, that he holds his head a bit higher. You know, less hiding under the hood... yeah that's the ticket!

Nick: I will not be surprised if Quentin tells Oliver he's known all along when the time finally comes that Oliver's unmasks himself for the good detective.

Carissa: My biggest beef with superhero shows. Taking your hair down, removing glasses, peeling off a hood. The power of suggestion is too easy. At least Blood is wearing an all-over head mask. Gotta give him props.

How are you envisioning the Laurel story arc leading up to the big Lance reunion in Arrow Season 2 Episode 14?

Robin: I think between crossing Sebastian Blood and her pill-popping (I think she stole the pain pills that Quentin "lost"), Laurel's going to find herself either in a jail cell or a padded cell. That will bring her sister back to town.

Hank: Is she still on the show? LOL I'm just hoping the creative team is able to turn the character around. Laurel is my least favorite character on Arrow and I know for a fact, I am not alone on this one.

Nick: Laurel working to try to figure out what Blood is up to will probably lead to this reunion. Usually whenever an "outlier" in Arrow gets close to uncovering something big things happen.

Carissa: Now I've been reading Stephen Amell's Facebook page and he's singing the praises of Arrow Season 2 Episode 15 as the biggest and best episode yet, titled "The Promise," and while all of the Olicity fans want it to be about a kiss, I'm thinking that after the Lance family reunion in 14, Laurel will make a promise to Sara to carry the song as Canary and it will be the beginning of that chapter of her life.

Or, knowing Arrow, Laurel will die and Sara will stick around as Canary promising to be by Oliver's side protecting Starling City. All will lead to a season finale creating Felicity's Oracle. Either way, I can't wait!!

Thanks for reading - and remember to watch Arrow online at TV Fanatic!

Carissa Pavlica is the managing editor and staff writer for TV Fanatic. Follow her on Twitter and on Google+.

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Robin you said Laurels investigation was preposterous umm re watch her first scene again please i think you might eat your words

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For me L wont work as BC coz lack of training n time. Cant she b the badass lawyer like on season 1. U dont need to be a SH to redeem her

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for me laurel will not b believable as bc. cant she be a bad-ass lawyer who helps people. she can be a super hero of her own just like felicity. just saying

Xochie-days

This episode seemed like an establishing episode to me. It wasn't most exciting episode, but it is laying the ground work for future awesomeness. Laurel is also my least favorite character. Although I've absolutely hated what they did to her in this season, I hoped it was part of a very good story arc. As mentioned in the comments, I agree at this point Laurel would not be a believable Black Canary. I have to be honest though, I really don't care for little sister either. The theory of Laurel going to the dark side (as mentioned by Valie) with Slade is very intriguing. I could see Slade trying to take someone Oliver once loved and turning her against him. That, I'd like to see. He could train Laurel and then she'd be believable. While I agree that Roy's story is taking a long time, I am grateful because he has slowly won me over. Now it's time to put him to work, perhaps his new strength will be the catalyst to start his superhero career. Good guys pop in and out, Oliver needs someone who will stay and fight the good fight with him. On a side note, is the @ required to make a mention of someone (like the +Name in G+)?

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@ Xochie Days

Generally, when you hit reply, the @ comes up automatically. I like your idea about Laurel going evil for a while. That IS something I'd like to see. I think Fearless Diva mentioned something similar, as well. She has enough fighting skills that it would be fun to see them set against each other... and if she's with Slade, maybe he'd feed her Mirakuru. I realize that's pushing the limits of the blood, but why NOT a woman, especially an angry one?

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@ Carissa Pavlica

Wow. That would be TOTALLY AWESOME to see Laurel all amped up on Mirakuru. Also, thank you for clarifying the @ question for me.

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@ Xochie Days

well,mate, I think you've got a point~ and it's a good one

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@ aWESOME

Thank you, @aWESOME. Which one?

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@ Xochie Days

that Laurel will go to the bad side and align with Slade~

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Am I the only one to think Laurel gonna choose Slade's side? Betrayed by her family (keeping her in the dark when she was so low), betrayed by Oliver/Arrow (hiding who he really is!) : you know what they say about the line between Love & Hatred....? If you are not convinced yet... just take another look at the 2nd season's banner... it says it all IMHO ;-)

Xochie-days
@ Valie

I think this is a great idea. I commented on your suggestion above. Sorry, I am new to this website's method of conversations so I didn't reply to you directly.

Fearless-diva

@ Carissa:
Exactly, if anything Tommy's death proved that no one was safe. Honestly? If they do make Laurel Black Canary, I rather see Sara retire but still be in the know with Team Arrow, then have her die (for a third time). Yeah, the Arrowverse is turning into something really amazing. It's a shame that if the rumors are to be believed DC is not connecting the movies with the shows. What's your take on that? Is DC shooting themselves in the foot by not comitting themselves to shared universe like Marvel's?

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@ Fearless Diva

I do wish the movie and TV worlds would work more closely together as a general rule. There still seems to be a stigma that TV is a red-headed step child, when in fact their stories and writing surpass movies on a consistent basis and movie actors are making the move to TV every day. The more I think about it, the more I want the Lance sisters on opposite sides of the Arrow. Anyone out there know of a baddie Laurel could be? I'll research, but I'm throwing it out there anyway!

Xochie-days
@ Carissa Pavlica

Hanko's website has a bio on Black Canary (which is supposed to be Laurel) so I think she could be a really good baddie.
http://hanko9.com/arrow-black-...

Fearless-diva

Question: Putting our love for Olicity aside, do you guys think that since episode 6 of this season, the writers are definitely going down the endgame for Oliver and Felicity? But it makes you wonder, does that mean this season, or the next we will see the death of Sara and Laurel take the reign as Black Canary? Cause to be honest, I don't think at this point Laurel can believably pull it off. Both Oliver and Sara spent years honing their skills. Could, dare I say it, the writers be brave enough to get rid of Laurel? After all with Tommy's death last season, it proved that unless your name is Oliver Queen, everyone is a fair game..

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@ Fearless Diva

I think everyone wants Laurel to die out of fear that someday Oliver may fall for her again. I think we need to give Katie Cassidy a break. She's been given really crap stories to work with and it's been done purposefully. Whatever their plan for her, I'm sure she'll nail it.

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@ Carissa Pavlica

I think you misunderstood me Carissa. I have no doubt Katie is an outstanding actress. I loved her as Juliet in season 4 of GG. She's what made me tune into Arrow. I don't think her acting is the problem. It just seems like since 1B, the writers have lost their way with her.I think that they are trying to slowly mold her into the Black Canary since that's the only slot she can fulfill on the show. But hypothetically, assume the writers like Sara and keep her as Black Canary. What's the point of her character if she's neither BC nor Oliver's endgame? What do they do with her then? Every other character has a definitive purpose. Which is why I brought up that if anybody thought that if they were to kill someone from the main cast again, if this time it would be Laurel?

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@ Fearless Diva

They're making their own world, that's for sure. They could choose to do just about anything at this point, short of killing Oliver Queen. :-) It would be cool if they could keep both Lance sisters around, as I'd like to see them onscreen together and I don't think we're going to get much chance for that in the long run. Unless I'm totally wrong, then -- yay!

Arrow Season 2 Episode 10 Quotes

Sara: Ivo killed Shado. He’s the one that pulled the trigger.
Oliver: Because I chose to save you. He needs to know the truth

Diggle: I've just never seen you spooked like this before.
Oliver: That should tell you something.

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