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NCIS Round Table: "Double Back"

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The hunt for Parsa continued last week on NCIS Season 11 Episode 13, an installment that picked up in the aftermath of the bombing that left Deliliah in peril.

"Double Back" centered around the terrorist's accomplice. How did our Round Table panel of Doug Wolfe, Christine Orlando and Steve Marsi feel about it?

Gather around below and find out in TV Fanatic's Q&A discussion!

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1. How would you sum up the episode, in one sentence or word?

Doug: Pain and Guilt.

Christine: A New Reality.

Steve: Moving Things.

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2. What was your favorite moment from the episode?

Doug: The scene where Bishop and the doctor had their conversation about Ziva and Cate struck me as important. They both seemed to agree that she'll need to grow into her position, and Dr. Cranston gave her some sage advice: that she could best to so by sitting near Tony, Gibbs and McGee. I like that. As well as providing some team continuity, it provided Bishop with some focus.

Christine: Doug, you took my favorite so I'm going to go with Tony offering McGee a casserole. I thought it was a little awkward but very sweet. I only wish he had gone to McGee's place and actually delivered it. That's a something I would have loved to see play out.

Steve: Gibbs finally getting the suspect to crack. For whatever reason I was on pins and needles the whole time and am loving this Parsa arc.

3. What didn't work for you?

Doug: NCIS often makes you forget that you're watching a TV story. The characters are real, and you often feel like you're right there with them. I stepped out of the story completely when Abby found those two bolts and realized they weren't from that model of vehicle. Having worked in a car factory at one time, I have an idea of the number of bolts and various parts that go into a car. The notion that she could process all of those parts, and know what they looked like, and what their dimensions were just made the scene unbelievable.

Christine: Honestly, I found myself wishing it had been Tony sitting with McGee at the end rather than Gibbs. We all know Gibbs is a bit of a father figure to his team but having Tony there would have shown more of his growth this season and strengthened the bond between he and McGee.

Steve: Until Christine said that, I hadn't thought about it, but I totally agree. Also, sometimes I think the show forces a bit of Bishop dialogue - will she fit in, how she compares to her predecessors, etc. - even though I like her.

4. What did you think of Tony and Bishop's rapid-fire brainstorming?

Doug: I liked it. It represents another tool in their collective arsenal, and it shows that Bishop is going to fit in just fine with them. The team operates on the basis of a common sharing of their individual strengths. In the case of the brainstorming, they now know they can ping ideas off of each other and advance their investigation.

Christine: I like it. It's fun and it keeps Tony on his toes. I'm really enjoying the dynamic between these two sort of off beat partners.

Steve: Despite my previous response, this was a fun scene and I love seeing the interplay between the new girl and the seasoned veterans.

5. Tony could have offered Tim a home-cooked steak dinner. Or he could have just said "whatever you need from me, you've got it." Instead he offered him a casserole. What are your thoughts on that choice?

Doug: Tony's attempt to comfort McGee via casserole was touching and sweet. It was personal, and the giving of it meant that Tim could enjoy it in peace whenever he wanted. There was no social obligation involved, and yet - it marked their friendship. Tony blamed his support group for his sensitivity, but I think we all know that came from the core of who he is. Anyway, it was a beautiful gesture, from a true friend.

Christine: It's comfort food and easy to drop off and reheat if need be. It's just what people do in times of crisis and I loved how out of character something like that was for Tony, but in a good way. I also like how he openly talks about his men's health group. It's an entirely new side to DiNozzo and I'm enjoying it.

Steve: The casserole shows that he really thought this through, in ways that other gestures (while equally sincere) might not have.

6. Tony and Sofia Martinez: match made in heaven or disaster?

Doug: I think they should try dating, just to see what happens. I'm certain they would get on each other's nerves - they both said they find each other annoying. This proves the adage that the thing you most dislike about others is usually a part of your own character, something you yourself do. That said, they have some things in common, like a love of movies. They'd be fun to watch.

Christine: Possible disaster. Despite their love of movies I really wasn't feeling the chemistry between them, at least not yet.

Steve: Tony brought a lot to an episode where he wasn't really the focal point. I enjoyed this give-and-take and would love to see them go out on at least one date. Imagine the one-liners that would follow ...

7. Tim seems to have started coming to terms with Delilah's injury. Is he okay?

Doug: No. He's not nearly okay, although he is on the upswing. He could use some of Dr. Cranston's counseling: there's a lot of suppressed rage and probably some guilt there still, and he probably feels like a fish out of water with Delilah. He needs to be strong for her, because she's about to go through the greatest struggle in her life: learning how to live life as a paraplegic. I'm looking forward to seeing what the writers have in store for them.

Christine: No. I think it's a long road back to OK for both him and Delilah and it's going to take time and work to get there.

Steve: He's definitely not okay. But he has showed us a lot, especially after the previous week when he couldn't even bring himself to attend the event.

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    Authorsue

    Who played Sophia Martinez? I thought she was great. Perfect for Tony. Lots of laughs, some sex, and no commitments. They both just wanna have fun. I can't see Tony involved again, but he is a man. I think they'd make a great comical pair that plays well off each other. I miss the witty repartee and games between serious scenes. I miss the old Tony.

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    well ok agentsully--i always said that from day one that tony jaw dropped when ziva walked into the bullpen,he is the one that looked at her always with the deamy eyes, zivas life was hell,her father raised her to be a killer it was gibbs that bellieved in her & got her through it-- they had no problem with her becomming an agent or a us citizen the whole team came to love her & tony had to hide his feelings for her out of respect for gibbs & his rule as well as ziva, its over folks shes gone & the best to her in her life--she will be remembered fondly from a lot of fans, mic

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    R--yea & ziva comment about a man date was the guys being out together --like going for a beer or spmething to eat--your another one with a closed mind did ya ever hang out with the guys you know,or are you another person as brainless as michael,that writes all these low ball rmarks on ziva--what the hell are you watching ncis for or did if you couldnt stand ziva--there are plenty of CARTOONS for you to watch...mic

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    michael--you are a sick person,i cant even call you a sick man because you are not a man at all,to make comments as to gibbs & tony like you did is so low,you a low person you cant possibly have any friends in real life. the ones that talk well of ziva saw her acting ability playing her role of ziva david--she was pissed at tony & did push him to the ground because she didnt want to believe that she was played by rifkin, did she not explain that all to tony after he & mcgee & gibbs went to get her out of africa,& they went because they really wanted to see if she was dead & how happy were tony & tim to see she was alive--pay attention michael & take a good look in the mirro because you are a brainless person, all you ever do & talk about is ziva & how much you cant stand her-- i dont know michael but i have a feeling there are many people that cant stand YOU, you have a foul & dirty mind someone should wack your brain around it might make you see things differently--maybe ziva will come & kick your sick ass wouldnt that scare you --you sick person go back under the rock you live in & grow up. mic

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    Michael why do you always, always go on about Alyah? Poor old Tony who suffered so. Never mind he just killed her then boyfriend.(He had a few girlfriends by then and she was much nicer to him about them nor did she kill any.) So after this poor Tony tells her to "Take a swing. Take a punch" (Does he not know her at all.) So she does. We all know Rifkin is a bad guy because that is how the story goes but she has already worked that out because she asked for a forced extraction. She also asked her father if the relationship was his doing. She was manipulated and confused. It would not have taken much to push her over the edge and poor Tony should have know better.

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    @ Jean

    Tony killed Rivkin in self defense. When Ziva killed the irritating suspect on the elevator he was hand cuffed. She obviously had self control problems. If Tony, being a man, had swept Ziva's feet out from under her, falling hard onto the concrete, he would have been labeled as an abuser, and correctly I might add. Ziva had just tried to attack Hadar for telling her that SHE was the reason Rivkin was dead. Ziva's anger is no excuse for her violence, unless of course we cut abusive men the same slack. Giving Ziva a pass on her violence is a glaring and dangerous double standard.

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    @ Jean

    You're totally right on every point.

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    michael---------------your dislike of ziva is well known already,you have a very hugh problem with your facts---the only one that tony was really in love with was jeanne--turned out accusing him of murder,wendy left him at the alter,ej--barrett left him on the ground & took off thinkling he was dead--pehaps she could have have found away tp let ncis know about tony--um what did ziva do? she was there for him all the time for his romances as a friend, & tony knew that. they were close partners & close friends to eavh other.dont you see that she was a wise ass in the beginning but changed for the better,& all the team came to love her. get off your ziva kick or get off your comments & learn to dpeak properly,yor are a person,who has nothing better to do than knock a very fine actress in the mrole she played. mic

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    @ mic

    LOL really let see Ziva called Tony worthless stupid sleep with his father point a gun at him while he had a broken arm try to get him kick off the gibbs team though tony and gibbs were having butt sex and almost got them both killed on their undercover mission.

    Ziva was heartless

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    @ Michael

    Even when you use a different name or initial we always know when it is you Michael/R because only you could come up with these insane, offensive comments.

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    @ Michael

    What are you talking about?

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    @ PatrickC

    last season Tony and Gibbs had to protect Jarvis and Ziva didn't know where they were and though they were on a date

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    As for Bishop, I think her not melding with the team perfectly is entirely intentional. As her introduction proved, she isn't much of a team player, so I think everyone needs to wait for the next season before cementing a complete opinion. And it's not like she a bitch and thinks she better then everybody.

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    Really love what they've been doing with Tony this season. I think it's fantastic.

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    I liked the Bishop/Rachel scene, as it highlighted the fact that yes, Bishop still has a lot to learn, and that there is no better team to mentor her than the one she's working with. I also liked the fact that this was a team effort, with everyone working the case and contributing something. I'm enjoying Tony and Bishop's dynamic, as they continue to learn more about each other. As long as they continue to show the veteran team members as skilled and smart, Bishop will fit in just fine. I don't need or want her to be like Ziva or Kate, as she's her own person, and she grows on me more each ep. I think Tony's casserole was a kind gesture, straight from the heart,although I agre that it would have great to see him bring it to Tim's and see some support ala Probie. And I'm fine with Tony dating. He deserves to find someone who actually cares about and loves him for the person he is.

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    Doug, in Criminal Mind, UAC is an arm of the FBI and the high skills of Dr. Reid are used to make the geographical mapping of serial killer sought.
    I can see that the Bishop character was created as a person with high skills. But I can not see even in that aspect of the investigation on NCIS high habillidades it is being used: Bishop examines what exactly? What are the data that Bishop turns into information?

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    @ Gilda

    With the caveat that I'm far from being an apologist for the show, I think what she does is what we've seen: her ability to pull disparate pieces of information together to form the information they're struggling to find. She uses white papers, text books, criminal profiles, whatever she can get her hands on, and treats them like puzzle pieces. Reid does very much the same thing, only he isn't limited to geography, but includes truly disparate pieces of information from everywhere.

    Your reference to him actually reinforces my admiration for what the writers have done with Bishop. She's both unlike him and like him, being a little more plugged into social convention, with a magnetic brain for detail, respectively.




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