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NCIS Round Table: "Double Back"

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The hunt for Parsa continued last week on NCIS Season 11 Episode 13, an installment that picked up in the aftermath of the bombing that left Deliliah in peril.

"Double Back" centered around the terrorist's accomplice. How did our Round Table panel of Doug Wolfe, Christine Orlando and Steve Marsi feel about it?

Gather around below and find out in TV Fanatic's Q&A discussion!

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1. How would you sum up the episode, in one sentence or word?

Doug: Pain and Guilt.

Christine: A New Reality.

Steve: Moving Things.

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2. What was your favorite moment from the episode?

Doug: The scene where Bishop and the doctor had their conversation about Ziva and Cate struck me as important. They both seemed to agree that she'll need to grow into her position, and Dr. Cranston gave her some sage advice: that she could best to so by sitting near Tony, Gibbs and McGee. I like that. As well as providing some team continuity, it provided Bishop with some focus.

Christine: Doug, you took my favorite so I'm going to go with Tony offering McGee a casserole. I thought it was a little awkward but very sweet. I only wish he had gone to McGee's place and actually delivered it. That's a something I would have loved to see play out.

Steve: Gibbs finally getting the suspect to crack. For whatever reason I was on pins and needles the whole time and am loving this Parsa arc.

3. What didn't work for you?

Doug: NCIS often makes you forget that you're watching a TV story. The characters are real, and you often feel like you're right there with them. I stepped out of the story completely when Abby found those two bolts and realized they weren't from that model of vehicle. Having worked in a car factory at one time, I have an idea of the number of bolts and various parts that go into a car. The notion that she could process all of those parts, and know what they looked like, and what their dimensions were just made the scene unbelievable.

Christine: Honestly, I found myself wishing it had been Tony sitting with McGee at the end rather than Gibbs. We all know Gibbs is a bit of a father figure to his team but having Tony there would have shown more of his growth this season and strengthened the bond between he and McGee.

Steve: Until Christine said that, I hadn't thought about it, but I totally agree. Also, sometimes I think the show forces a bit of Bishop dialogue - will she fit in, how she compares to her predecessors, etc. - even though I like her.

4. What did you think of Tony and Bishop's rapid-fire brainstorming?

Doug: I liked it. It represents another tool in their collective arsenal, and it shows that Bishop is going to fit in just fine with them. The team operates on the basis of a common sharing of their individual strengths. In the case of the brainstorming, they now know they can ping ideas off of each other and advance their investigation.

Christine: I like it. It's fun and it keeps Tony on his toes. I'm really enjoying the dynamic between these two sort of off beat partners.

Steve: Despite my previous response, this was a fun scene and I love seeing the interplay between the new girl and the seasoned veterans.

5. Tony could have offered Tim a home-cooked steak dinner. Or he could have just said "whatever you need from me, you've got it." Instead he offered him a casserole. What are your thoughts on that choice?

Doug: Tony's attempt to comfort McGee via casserole was touching and sweet. It was personal, and the giving of it meant that Tim could enjoy it in peace whenever he wanted. There was no social obligation involved, and yet - it marked their friendship. Tony blamed his support group for his sensitivity, but I think we all know that came from the core of who he is. Anyway, it was a beautiful gesture, from a true friend.

Christine: It's comfort food and easy to drop off and reheat if need be. It's just what people do in times of crisis and I loved how out of character something like that was for Tony, but in a good way. I also like how he openly talks about his men's health group. It's an entirely new side to DiNozzo and I'm enjoying it.

Steve: The casserole shows that he really thought this through, in ways that other gestures (while equally sincere) might not have.

6. Tony and Sofia Martinez: match made in heaven or disaster?

Doug: I think they should try dating, just to see what happens. I'm certain they would get on each other's nerves - they both said they find each other annoying. This proves the adage that the thing you most dislike about others is usually a part of your own character, something you yourself do. That said, they have some things in common, like a love of movies. They'd be fun to watch.

Christine: Possible disaster. Despite their love of movies I really wasn't feeling the chemistry between them, at least not yet.

Steve: Tony brought a lot to an episode where he wasn't really the focal point. I enjoyed this give-and-take and would love to see them go out on at least one date. Imagine the one-liners that would follow ...

7. Tim seems to have started coming to terms with Delilah's injury. Is he okay?

Doug: No. He's not nearly okay, although he is on the upswing. He could use some of Dr. Cranston's counseling: there's a lot of suppressed rage and probably some guilt there still, and he probably feels like a fish out of water with Delilah. He needs to be strong for her, because she's about to go through the greatest struggle in her life: learning how to live life as a paraplegic. I'm looking forward to seeing what the writers have in store for them.

Christine: No. I think it's a long road back to OK for both him and Delilah and it's going to take time and work to get there.

Steve: He's definitely not okay. But he has showed us a lot, especially after the previous week when he couldn't even bring himself to attend the event.

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It would be nice if the writers could adjust the Bishop character to fit in more with the team. Maybe they can change her way of speaking, too fast and soft to the point of it not being understandable for all. One thing I especially liked about Ziva was that you could hear and understand everything she said. She was always able to discuss things with any of the characters. However, let's give Bishop a chance. She is trying.

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I hope USA does not buy this season of NCIS, it sure won't be watched like the previous seasons. This year should go down as the season that wasn't for my favorite show. Maybe the Bishop character would have been a good fit for the NCIS - NOLA show. This character has detracted from every episode she has been in.

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@ Sally

How do you know it won;t be as watched in reruns? Crystal ball? Douglas Wolfe defined her character to a T. He gets it, sorry you don't. To hope USA doesn't pick up the season because you aren't happy…. Well I think we know what that means. USA will pick it up because of consistent ratings and pretty much a guarantee that they'll still pull a 0.5 to 0.8 in the demo. Again we have those who wish to hurt the cast and producers financially now because they aren;t happy. Wow.

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@ guest+

It seems you have misunderstood. Did you miss the part that said My favorite show? I wish no harm to the cast, but the show is not like previous seasons, and not just because Ziva is gone. The timing is off and the reactions of the characters are totally out in left field. This will be the season that wasn't.

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@ Sally

You are so wrong. The depth is so much greater this year. This is their best season in many years

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Tony has not has a girlfriend/ lover since EJ, I think it's time he has not been happy since he lost EJ and he need someone like her who love him and not treat him like dirt like that one woman he was forced to be link up with. I love Bishop she the most believable agent I believe the show has had in YEARS Everyone love her as proven by the rating and the story we have heard, It's feel like they have really learn their lesson from last season and as for Parsa I think he the best bad guy we have gotten since season 8 he a lot better then Harper Dearling

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I think that they need to power down Bishop's whiz-kid analytical abilities a bit and show her more as a learner. She doesn't have the field experience that Kate and Ziva had. The guys and Abby making occasional references to the two gals and how they grew into the role would create a connection between all the women that have sat at that desk. I also don't like how she is portrayed as the person that the guys are turning to solve the crimes. It has been her whizz last minute analysis that is solving the cases and that is so unrealistic especially given her age and inexperience. I was glad to see the conversation between Bishop and Dr. Cranston that she is aware of the big shoes she has to learn to fill. I think it is too early for Tony to be dating given he had a relationship (albeit a strange one) with Ziva for 8 years. He has been deeply hurt at her decision to remain in Israel. I hope that when he does start to date the writers show him proceeding with caution, not leaping in with both feet. The lady he flirted with in "Double Back" is a bit too close to a Ziva clone for my liking. I think if they did have a relationship Tony would soon discover that and memories will cloud his judgement of this gal. She would become a Ziva substitute. He has to find someone that is really grounded and a bit more of an all-American type and not mess with his mind like Ziva did.

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@ Marysue

Let's not forget: Bishop isn't exactly a newbie to work in analysis (witness the white papers she has written). She was pulled from an already well established analyst position at the NSA. There are people in the world who having amazing intellectual abilities, who are scooped by intelligence agencies as soon as they're discovered: she is painted as one of them. I find this aspect of her character completely believable.

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@ Douglas Wolfe

SHe may be believable as an analyst but certainly not as an agent. she should be behind a desk. not putting everyone at risk with her field incompetence.

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@ Douglas Wolfe

You are correct in that Bishop has been in the analysis work for some time. I believe in her character and honestly like her on the show. She is bringing a connectedness to the other characters. She is married and has a good family from what we've seen so far. That is completely different from the other characters who are all still single for a variety of reasons. I just want to seen a balance between her learning her job and helping the team with her skills but not being pushed as the wonder kid. I think overall Bishop is a great asset to the team just from the good qualities she exhibits. She said in the first episode that she works hard and wants to make a difference.

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I'm not ready to have Tony start dating yet. Maybe next season. Ziva was his partner/love interest off/on for eight years. I wish they would make a few more references to the difficulty of the severing of that relationship and moving on. I liked the exchange between Dr. Cranston and Bishop especially when Bishop commented on that she had big shoes to fill. Some conversation between Bishop and Tony regarding Ziva's growth in that chair would be interesting. I hope that McGee will be there for Delilah and he gets a chance to prove his real character by supporting her. Him going to Abby for advice and the conversations they'd have would be interesting as Abby has an affinity for those with special needs. I would like the writers to focus on Bishop learning her job and power down her whizz-kid analytic abilities for a bit. This is where some references to Kate and Ziva would fit in, how those gals grew in their roles. I feel sometimes that the whole team is taking a back seat and relying on her to solve everything which is totally unrealistic given her age and inexperience.

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I also thought this episode had awkward moments in it. Tim is not okay at all and not acting in character either. For all the years he has been secondary to Tony, he has never been so passive when real things are happening. He did not want to go to the party and when he conceded there was a disaster. This makes for the guilt, but does not make for the wimpy, lackluster McGee. I agree that the writers are trying to force Tony into another relationship post Ziva, but they should write something less fraught than this one with the NSA woman. Bishop could calm down a bit and stop trying to impede Gibbs with time wasting questions. Parsa is too much like Ari for my taste with his grand plots and evil intentions. I just know it's going to end with a questionable death provided by Gibbs. Put a bad guy in jail for once instead of killing him.

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@ Marjorie Kidder

agreed about Tony, I think it is too soon for a relationship. As someone else said, movie references? could they BE more obvious trying to force it? He and Ziva may have never dated but they had a complex, intense relationship for 8 years. IMO he needs time to just take a break from women.

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Bishop need to grow into Ziva´s position until the last viewer is gone.

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I'm sorry to say that Bishop don't really fit in. I loved Kate and Ziva. I knew it would be very hard to fill Ziva's shoes. I love the cast and watch the reruns on USA . Just loosing interest on new season. As we'll as my family & friends.

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@ Danielle

bye bye

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Sofia Martinez was easy on the eyes, but the movie references thing is just lazy writing. Could they be any more ham fisted trying to invent a girlfriend for DiNozzo?

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@ Jon Lester

Yes, exactly this. If they have to slap that characteristic on a woman, you KNOW they are forcing a romantic connection to tony. Ziva rarely if ever got movie references. she didn't have to. she had an instant connection with Tony in their first scene. No need for forcing it.

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Have to disagree with a lot of it. To me it looks like Bishop is not clicking with the team at all. I don't mind her as a secondary character but not on the main team. She is way too fidgety and annoying and I hate the sitting on the desk thing. What I hate most is how Tony and Gibbs just defer to her like she has all the answers. Please move her to a desk and give us the real Tony and Gibbs back.

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@ Lori

You mean the one that were Ziva bitch

NCIS Season 11 Episode 13 Quotes

McGee: I should have been here when you woke up.
Delilah: You're here now.

Boss, would you mind sitting with me?

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