Happy Birthday little Gideon!
On Once Upon a Time Season 6 Episode 9, the Evil Queen sped up Belle's pregnancy, forcing her to make a fast choice about her son's future: to keep him from Rumplestiltskin, she sent him off with the Blue Fairy, asking her to keep her son safe for as long as it takes for things to get better in Storybrooke.
What were our favorite moments? Did Aladdin make a bad choice? Did that Black Fairy twist make a great impression? Join TV Fanatics Steve Ford, Allison Nichols, and Robin Harry, along with Once Upon a Fan's Joanne Denney as they discuss these questions and more!
What was your favorite scene or quote from "Changelings?"
Joanne: I absolutely loved the flashback scene where Belle and Rumple were discussing the name of the stolen baby. Rumple tells Belle "A name's a special thing. You don't waste it on something you've no intention of becoming attached to."
Rumple then gets a little choked up and emotional. It's not until we find out that Rumple's mother, the Black Fairy, never named him before she abandoned him do we realize the painful thoughts he was suffering during that scene.
Steve: When the EQ told Rumple "Good luck finding your son...again.” Ouch!
Allison: I think I'd have to pick when the Evil Queen came over to see Zelena, and Zelena just knew what was coming. I like that Zelena isn't stupid. She knows how Rumple works, and so while she hoped her evil sister wouldn't hurt her, she wasn't all that surprised by this turn of events.
Robin: I laughed out loud when Hook walked into Gold's shop and Rumple referred to him as Emma's "lackey." That's become a little true, hasn't it? Hook just kinda follows Emma around now and interjects here and there. I miss the banter they used to have; that was the most fun part of their relationship.
Did Belle make the right decision in sending Gideon away?
Joanne: No, she made a seriously wrong choice. She is being manipulated by the vision of Morpheus, who may or may not be her son, Gideon. Morpheus has convinced her that Rumple is a threat to her and the baby even though Rumple has tried to explain that he wants to protect them and not hurt them. I'm beginning to wonder if the figure of Morpheus is actually the Black Fairy in disguise trying to steal Gideon from Belle.
Steve: I can't imagine what it is like to have to give up your child in hopes of giving them a better life. However, there is no doubt that it's one of the most difficult choices a parent can make. Now, I don't know if it was the right choice, but it seemed like the only choice. Belle wants to protect her child, and whether or not she went about it the right way, it was the right decision in Belle's eyes.
Allison: I don't think so. I know Rumple's a bad guy, but I don't really understand what he was going to do to his son that was so terrible. I did lose interest in Rumbelle light years ago, so I don't pay super close attention to their scenes.
My understanding was that Rumple was going to use the shears to make sure his son didn't turn out to be Morpheus? Right? I mean that's bad but not awful. Belle could have still raised her son because Rumple wasn't taking him from her. Her son would just have a slightly different life
Robin: I think Belle made the best decision she could at the time. Rumpel had been a A-grade jerk recently, and she understandably thought that Rumpel had sped up the delivery and was a threat. However, from my perspective, knowing more than she does, she obviously made a mistake. Besides, abandonment-for-whatever-reason didn't quite work out that well for the lives of Emma, August, Rumpel etc.
What did you think of the Black Fairy twist?
Joanne: The Black Fairy twist is fantastic! She has been a sinister, mysterious character from early on in the show, and now she is a major key to Rumplestiltskin's complex, fractured character. I am really hoping that she wasn't wasted on just one episode, but that the writers explore her backstory and its effects on Rumple further in future episodes.
Steve: Wow, that was awesome. It was actually quite fun to see Rumple so vulnerable when the Black Fairy was holding him by the throat and laughing in his face. And there wasn't a thing he could do about it. It was a powerful scene, and I hope we get to see more of the Black Fairy in the near future.
Allison: I felt like it came out of nowhere, so I was not thrilled.
Robin: I'm with Allison. We spent an entire season dealing with Rumpel's abandonment issues with Daddy Peter Pan, and they throw that bombshell of a reveal with his mother in as background symbolism? I was not impressed. A story like that deserved more than a being a flashback setup to more Rumpel and Belle drama.
Should Regina forgive Zelena, the way that she herself was forgiven by so many that she hurt?
Joanne: Yes. It is only fair that she, herself, forgives. Zelena has done many wicked things, but they are sisters and they will never be able to develop their relationship until Zelena feels like she has been forgiven. She needs to be given a clean slate like Regina before she can move on in her new life with baby Robin.
Steve: I don't like Zelena. Not one ounce. However, I don't believe anyone is beyond redemption or forgiveness. Regina is still hurt, and she has every right to be angry at Zelena. Their relationship (if you want to call it that) is fractured, and they just need time to mend it. But I don't know if either of them want to at this point.
Allison: Regina says that a hero saves people, even people that they hate, but she forgot that a hero also forgives. Forgiveness is a kindness, and Regina needs to forgive Zelena. I also feel like Regina did far worse when she was the Evil Queen, and yet people managed to forgive her.
Robin: Like Steve, Zelena irks me to no end. Also, I understand that Regina is hurting. However, it's more than a little hypocritical of Regina to think that she's more forgiveable than Zelena is. Zelena was tricked by Hades, and she didn't actually kill Robin Hood. Regina, girl, you killed your own dad. Your moral high ground is a bit shaky.
Who do you think that the sword Emma found belongs to?
Joanne: Looking at the sword, it reminds me of an older Viking sword rather than a musketeer sword. Maybe it once belonged to Charlemagne or a Norse god like Loki. I think the person wielding the sword in Emma's vision is either the Black Fairy or the Evil Queen.
Steve: I can't even take a guess right now. Total shot in the dark, but I'm just going to say the Black Fairy. I don't really see how that would work, but I just really want to see more of her.
Allison: I have absolutely no idea.
Robin: Random guess time!! Thundercats' Sword of Omens. Or She-Ra's Sword of Protection. "For the Honor of Grayskull!!!" Seriously, though, it looks like neither of those two, and I have no idea.
Aladdin is a genie now. Good idea or bad idea?
Joanne: Aladdin becoming a genie is a very bad idea. As we learned from the Disney movie, genies have no free will and must be at the beck and call of their masters. If Jasmine loses possession of the lamp to the Evil Queen or Jafar, then Aladdin will be fighting for the wrong team.
Steve: I don't know how I feel about this, it's nice twist in concept, but I saw it coming a mile away. Aladdin was quick to act and didn't really think much about the repercussions of what he was about to take on. He may have bitten off more than he can chew in the long run.
Allison: I get that Aladdin became a genie to help Jasmine. He wanted to do some good, and since he is no longer the savior, he saw being a genie as a good alternative. Of course, Aladdin did not think this all the way through, and it will come to bite him in the ass.
Robin: TERRIBLE idea. What everyone else said. This can't possibly end well.
Check out photos from Once Upon a Time Season 6 Episode 10 right here, and be sure to tune in on Sunday, December 4 at 8/7c on ABC! You won't want to miss this Winter Finale!