Supergirl Round Table: Invasion of the Frat Boys

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James finally found a purpose on Supergirl Season 2 Episode 20, but it wasn't as Guardian. 

Join TV Fanatics Steven Ford, Christine Orlando, Yana Grebenyuk, Kathleen Wiedel, and Jim Garner as they discuss James' role, Cat's upcoming return, and the invasion of the Daxamites! 

Is Guardian gone for good? What role do you want for James going forward?

Steve: I hope so. I know I'm not alone in my negative reception to the addition of the Guardian to this series. I much preferred James as a behind the scenes team player. I'm not sure exactly what role James could play aside from going back to his initial role, but the show as a whole will be better off without the Guardian.

Christine: I wasn’t a big fan of Guardian, but I am a fan of James and I want him to feel like a part of this team again. That hasn’t happened in most of Supergirl Season 2. I’m not sure how they do it, but they need to integrate him as part of both CatCo and the DEO.

Yana: I'll take James any way they want to write him in with decent amounts of screen time. I obviously thought James was great the way he was and didn't need a mask to make him a hero.

I just want James to be happy and supported, it really feels like only Winn is there for him lately and that is a weird shift from last season.

Kathleen: James always felt like a hero of another story to me, even from the very beginning. His whole Guardian storyline only emphasized this, unfortunately.  think that taking a step back from the superheroics to find other ways of helping would be a good direction for his character.

Jim: If he's not gone for good then he certainly needs to make an adjustment to be less terrifying to everyone he saves.

What is going to happen with all the arriving Daxamites? What are your thoughts on a team up with Lillian and Cadmus to stop them?

Steve: The arrival of the Daxamites can only mean two things: destroying earth, or turning it into a new Daxam. I'm leaning more towards the latter. As far as joining forces with Cadmus goes, it's the classic heroes/villains team-up in order to destroy an even greater threat.

I can't say I'm blown away by this idea, but it should be interesting to see the two sides working together towards a common goal.

Christine: Are Daxamites all spoiled brats who expect to get their own way? Sort of like Mon-El when he first showed up, and his parents. If so, this invasion should get interesting. I’m not really a fan of Lillian and the Cadmus storyline. I kind of wish it would just fade away, but from the looks of things, I don’t think I’ll be getting that wish.

Yana: I agree with Christine about wanting the Lillian and Cadmus storyline to end, it feels like it doesn't belong and if it disappeared not much would have changed. But why not have them team up? If I'm not expecting much, nothing can disappoint me now.

Kathleen: Teaming up with Cadmus, even for an apparently noble goal like saving Earth from the Invasion of the Frat Boys, definitely falls into the category of "Really Bad Idea." But something tells me that our heroes will disregard this in favor of short-term goals. No way THIS can turn out badly...

Jim: Maybe we will get lucky and Lillian Luthor will sacrifice herself to save Lena and the Earth and we will finally be done with Cadmus. Like Christine and Yana, I'm really done with this whole story.

Standing up to Mom - Supergirl Season 2 Episode 20

Do you think Mon-El will be forced to kill Rhea by the end of the season?

Steve: I don't think so. I think the story will head in that direction but in the end, some type of curveball will be thrown in. Perhaps Kara may end up being forced to kill Rhea in order to prevent Mon-El from carrying that burden of killing his mother.

Even if she inadvertently ends up taking out Rhea, it could end up having a big impact on their relationship in Supergirl Season 3.

Christine: Yeah, I’m wondering if Kara will end up killing Rhea and if that becomes a wedge between Mon-El and Kara. I hope not. It could be more fun to have Rhea subdued in some other way where they can bring her back to cause trouble somewhere down the line.

Yana: Probably not. It would provide for a great twist if Mon-El is expected to but doesn't. I didn't think Kara would be the one to do it but I am hoping that isn't true just for the purpose of that being a driving force in the next season. But nothing will be as shocking as Kara killing Rhea, so...

Kathleen: I think most of us are in agreement that either Mon-El or Kara will end up killing Rhea. Frankly, I'd find it far more interesting to set Rhea opposite J'onn. Now, I think he would have a few choice words for her on the subject of family.

Jim: Christine summed up my idea pretty well. I hope they take her down, but she could be a great recurring bad guy. Of course maybe if Hatcher stops getting plastic surgery she will be able to emote again along the way too...but that maybe a pipe dream.

How excited are you for Cat's return? How will she help? What role will she have?

Steve: I may have let out a little squeal when I saw Cat in the promo for Supergirl Season 2 Episdode 21. It was such as a quick tease that it's difficult to say what purpose she will serve, but it is exciting none the less.

This season has been a vast improvement over Supergirl Season 1, but there is no denying that Cat's presence and pep talks with Kara have been missed.

Christine: Although I do think the show has hit its stride this season, I miss Cat! I can’t wait to see her back at Catco once again, even if it is just for a short time, and I’m really curious to find out if she’s finally figured out that Kara is Supergirl.

Yana: It's about time. One of the reasons I loved the show as much as I did was because of Cat so not having her around made this season even that much more weird for me. She will probably give Kara another epic talk filled with advice, and if she doesn't drop a hint about knowing who Kara was all this time I will be so disappointed.

Kathleen: I'm with the rest of you -- while this season has been great overall, Cat Grant's absence has been felt quite a bit. I loved her pep talks and tough love during Supergirl Season 1, and I definitely hope we have more of that waiting for us.

Jim: I'm kind of excited to see Cat again, but I have no idea how she's actually going to play into the solution of this problem unless she does know that Kara is Supergirl.

Guardian - Supergirl Season 2 Episode 20

What was your favorite quote or scene?

Steve: The very last scene with all of the Daxamite ships arriving on Earth and hovering over the city. That was pretty darn cool.

Christine: I enjoyed James' storyline, because it does feel as though he’s been shut out all this season, and I’m happy to see him trying to find a way back in.

Yana: James and the little boy during their first meeting in that apartment. It was too emotional and exactly what James needed.

Kathleen: James finally realizing he doesn't have to be a superheroic vigilante to make a difference. Thank you!

Jim: I'm in the "James and Marcus" camp. Any of the scenes where James was getting to mentor and befriend Marcus were very well done!

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Stacy Glanzman was a staff writer for TV Fanatic. She retired in March, 2019.

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Supergirl Season 2 Episode 20 Quotes

James: Guardian is not...He's not this beacon of hope that I thought he would be. I mean, basically all I'm doing is beating people up.
Winn: Whoa, dude, we are doing a lot of good here. We're making a difference.
James: I mean, Supergirl, Superman, they're making a difference. They're changing hearts and minds. They inspire people. Guardian inspires fear.

Maybe she should give him like some action figures, right? Like if someone had given me action figures when they interrogated me about my dad when I was 10, I would have sung like a canary. I'm just saying.

Winn