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Im really glad the people here argee with me. mostly i pityed finn based on the moving in thing. Kurts dads speech really made me mad. he will obviously loose finns mom anyway and where is finn supposed to live now. you dont say those things to a kid
i loved santana in bad romance
liked shout it out loud
still unfortunatly cant like artie. i know im a terrible horrible person for that one. sorry! :(
i love mr shu -- show his ass any day
Ok, aside from the Kurt/Finn situation - I've been loving "Pokerface" by Rachel and Shelby. I think it's soo awesome that they connect so well through song, after they decided something just isn't right between them. That was some great acting right there. So many emotions! Admiration, happiness, longing, sadness, ecstasy and you can just see that's what they've wanted for so long, I totally bought the mother/daugther connection. Amazing! I've watched that scene a dozen times...Shelby was wrong when she said Rachel's an adult and doesn't need her. She needs to stick around. Heck, I still need my mom, who doesn't?
Okay, I agree that Kurt brought a lot of Finn's yelling on himself. I also believe that the gorilla sized bullying teammates of Finn's had a lot to do with it as well. The move also played a large part. I was surprised that the parents wanted to move Finn and Kurt into the same room when Kurt was gay. That is like moving a girl in with a boy. Especially with Kurt. Also, Kurt has been manipulating with everyone as far as their little family circle goes in an attempt to get closer to Finn. That's obvious. He did make friendly advances in the episode, but mostly he's stuck on Finn and can't or won't move on. Come on Glee writers, get him a real love interest. This is painful. Was Finn in the right? No, he was inappropriate and lashing out in anger, but he was justified even if he was harsh and inappropriate about it. Also, several parts of his long and slightly hysterical tirade weren't even about what was really frustrating. He had simply reached his boiling point and could
Thank you so much for seeing the line that Kurt crossed, which set things in motion. I have a lot of sympathy for Finn, having to take all the blame. Kurt need to tell his father what really happened
Finally, some Puck n Quinn lines.. yaaayyy :D
This is the best episode from the back 9..
The outfit, the emotional scenes between Finn, Kurt n Burt. also between Puck, Quinn n Beth.. I love them.. I cried 2 times.. I really into it..
I realy hope that Puck will gonna be there when Beth's born, and now i'm kinda optimist for QUICK :D
Jay Dean --
I wish I could have put it as simple and straight as you did!
While we might wish that Finn wouldn't have said "faggy," on the whole, Finn has less to apologize for than Kurt and Burt do. Finn was terribly upset and found himself in a terrible situation. He is least culpable.
Kurt has had a crush on Finn. Kurt knows that Finn is not gay. Kurt manipulates both parents, trying to get them together for the sole purpose of getting himself closer to Finn. Premeditated. Planned. Intentional. Have you manipulated other people into relationships for your own personal gain? I think you probably haven't.
Some might get a big thrill out of saying "Haw! Haw! Look at the dumb redneck and how scared he is of the gay guy!" Consider what it's like from Finn's perspective. He is forced to share a room, and share a bathroom, and sleep in the same room as someone who is sexually attracted to him. What if a boy was sexually attracted to a girl, and somehow got their single parents into a relationship. On what planet would it be considered acceptable for the
I thought Kurt's father was making an easy politically correct point (see my earlier post) -- but missed what was going on (or, actually, the writers ignored plot and character development to date to make a socially responsible statement which they have been doing pretty blatantly in this set of shows). What WAS going on was Finn was being moved by parents who are responsible for protecting the children in their care into the bedroom of a guy who has made it clear he's crushing on Finn and plainly stalking him. As the reviewer pointed out, this situation is the same as an underage girl being moved into the bedroom of a guy who keeps asking her out and who can't seem to understand "No!" And who keeps it up, coming on to her once she's in the bedroom, including trying to help her out by using a wet wipe on her face. I don't see that it's any wonder Finn doesn't fear a Holden Caulfield like incident in the middle of the night. And please notice that in my example of a girl
I don't get why Finn has to be "understanding" about the whole situation with Kurt just because Kurt's gay. I mean if Kurt were a girl and manipulated everything the way Kurt did, we would all simply say she was a conniving little monster in the making and leave it at that. Instead, the writers allow Kurt to play the victim and get away with it. His being gay does not give him a pass to act and do stuff without any real consequences.
And Finn had to grapple with his own issues about being uprooted with no warning. I agree that the "f" word was a line that shouldn't have been crossed but Kurt's dad and Finn's mom should also have considered Finn's feelings about rooming in with Kurt. Why did Burt expect Finn to act like an adult when, come to think of it, he and Finn's mom didn't act all that adult about the whole family blending thing, springing it as a surprise on a TEENAGER?
To my mind this episode reflected the viewers response to the reaction about Kurt's sexuality. I think he overreacted the whole thing a little bit in some parts in the last couple of episodes and the whole thing about Finn's mother and Kurt's father was something that confused me a little bit. Specially because it happened too fast. But this episode and the relationship between Kurt anf Finn shows the two sides here - the ones who support Kurt's sexuality and those who don't. It's easy. Some don't like it and some love it. I personally think they came up with a storyline that is new and fresh and it's very usual this days. It's a good spin in the plot that Finn has to face Kurt's condition and the fact that he is behaving in order to please others and not himself. Because down the road, deep inside, Finn kind of envies how Kurt can express himself and show who he really is.
On the other hand, I think that Shelby has to come back as a regular next season or at least another five epi
I don't agree with everyone here saying Kurt was being creepy. I think he's just THEATRICAL which was the whole point of the episode. So, to everyone who thinks Finns actions and words were even slightly acceptable, you might not be as open minded as you think.
Finn showed solidarity with Kurt at the end. He wasn't changing who he was - he was just proving that he isn't afraid to be lumped together with the other Glee kids. Think about it - when Finn was caught putting on his Kiss makeup, he didn't fight back because some part of him agreed with the other two kids - that being in Glee made him "bisexual."
Think about who this show is geared toward - the UNDERDOG. The "freaks" and the "geeks." Of course there will be many storylines about Kurt. I think this was the PERFECT end to a story arch about his father's acceptance of his sexuality. To those who just find it annoying to focus on the gay kid, you are missing a larger allegory.
And you might be a little homophobic.
kurt's father's reaction was right, finn was acting like a proper jerk, and i get that everyone thinks that kurt is a drama queen and that he is a coniving little bitch, but the whole moving thing was also kurt's way of acknowledging that he will never be with finn, so he at least want him as a brother. the whole arabian thing was kurt's way of trying to understand how to build a platonic relationship with him. finn comments about his fear of undressing in front of him were hurtful, and if i had been kurt's father i would have kicked him out immediately without any explanation. finn has been really annoying and unappealing this last couple of weeks.
glad tina is getting more screen time and that santana is finally singing
all the baby drama was boring, quinn and the other guy have no chemistry whatsoever it's depressing
oh, all the kiss parts were useless
I really don't like Kurt. Ergh. He's just so annoying and creepy. :|
The argument between Finn and Kurt was not played out well at all. Kurt has been creepy ever since he orchestrated his dad and Finn's mom dating. This climatic scene totally made Finn look like an evil guy and he's not. His whole life is being turned upside down and he's being pursued by someone he's not interested in. That by itself would be bothersome; but to find out you're now going to live with that person and share a room with him is too much.
Yes, saying faggy was disrespectful. But he didn't call Kurt a fag, which would have been much worse and I think warranted the dad's wrath. But Kurt has gotten away with manipulation after manipulation. As a gay man, I was excited to see how Kurt's character was initially being portrayed. Now he's nothing more than a conniving and manipulative stereotypical gay guy.
All of them have improved their acting so much. O'Malley is amazing, such depth. Lea surprised me last week but she's getting better and better. But am i the only one who thinks that Cory has improved sooooo much since the beginning of the show?? Now he transfers much more feeling, he really got to me :)
I agree with much of what has been said here. I have to say, though, has anyone taken notice of Mike O'Malley's acting? As far as I know the guy has been almost strictly a comedian. I am continually blown away by him on this show. Whether you agree with the way things have been handled on the show recently, I can't help but notice how amazing he has been in playing this character week after week. A job well done, sir.
Aside from that, I definitely think the Rachel/Shelby storyline was handled almost perfectly. More realistic than what you'd expect it to have been. Lea definitely shined last night.
And Puck. The scene with him serenading Quinn was surprisingly moving. Part of me wants things to actually work out with them. I have heard that the birth scene has been done and both actors did an absolutely amazing job. Hope this is true!
Right on the mark! I too thought it was wrong to expect Fin to just accept things and change himself. This was a greatly missed opportunity to show people another way and not the way we already know.
I totally agree with this review. Finn was wrong when he used the F word but the whole situation was incredible unconfortable to him.
Rachel and her mom duet was beyond amazing! Really loved , already watched that scene several times , Lea did a great acting job this episode , she was depth, we could feel what Rachel was going through.
I'm really glad to see Rachel subtle changing in the last 3 episode, she 's been more introspective .
I love rachel characther since the first 13 episodes but I like her best these back 9.
i am glad other people feel the same way. i really felt for finn having to share a room with a boy who is attracted him after being told, "surprise!! we're leaving the house you grew up and you have to give up your bedroom and everything is changing! aren't you excited?!" you have to have some sympathy for the poor guy when kurt has done everything in his power to get close finn, even going so far as manipulating their parents' romance.
however, i disagreed slightly with kurt's dad's speech when he basically said, "i thought you were different, that you just came into the world this way knowing what it took me 20 some odd years to figure out." it took him that long and he actually has a gay son, unlike finn whose possibly only contact with a gay individual is kurt.
finn is a teenage boy in a small town that, unfortunately, isn't very gay friendly. why is finn held to a higher standard of tolerance when it took kurt's own father such a long time to become that way? and kurt's fa
This was an amazing episode, loved the twilight reference, agree with Tina's mum...
Before the whole world starts yelling at me i've got to say i've got gay friends and lesbian friends. However i could perfectly understand Finn, and i was getting annoyed at Kurt as the episode kept going. I mean, we know we girls don't mind sharing a bed or whatever, but boys specially TEEN boys are different, and Kurt was being really pushy on Finn. It's been so obvious Kurt's infatuantion with Finn that even he noticed, so when the feeling is not mutual that's really uncomfortable, imagine having to share a room with that. Finn's reaction was wrong, but the Arabian Nights room was just too much for anyone, and i wish the writers would have made Kurt realize that, cause i really like that character. And Kurt's dad reaction was absolutely normal, it's his kid we're talking about after all...
Anyway, i think Finn was great in his final speech: here i am, in a shower curtain..
It was so touching.. H
I completely agree with the Kurt part. I think the show is putting WAAAY too much focus on him. I mean, doesn't he have like more lines than Mr. Schue?! He's gay and proud to be different, we got that a while ago. I guess I'm just kind of getting tired of that storyline, it's time for something new. Finn had every right to feel the way he did, I would have TOTALLY freaked out in his position. And Finn in the dress was kind of a stretch, I didn't like that at all...
All in all I was surprised at how much I loved this episode, I honestly didn't think it would be this moving. I love Puck! "Jackie Daniels", hah! He's totally a high school dude!
I was very upset about the lecture Finn received. I got the point of it, but it was also off the mark of what was going on (and so reduced the point to greeting card politics). Anyhow, I was glad to read this review and the comments because I work nights and kind of stewed this over all night!
Kurt can be manipulative in previous episodes (after he screwed Rachel over by "helping" her improve her image to impress Finn, who was, surprise, the opposite of impressed, he answered her saying "I thought we were friends?" with approximately, "Who said we were friends?" -- like he has no responsibility if she's naive enough to trust him).
That said, Kurt is still one of my favorite characters in, for instance, the expressions he goes through when Rachel is saying something Rachel or his conversations when he's fitting right in with all the disparate glee club members.
And, I give the writers/producers credit for trying (and here I'm referring to Kurt and others as victims) to deal w
@JWG: But the issue at stake and Finn's use of that word are two different issues. Yes, Finn was wrong to say it and I agreed with every word Burt yelled.
But Kurt has also been very much in the wrong for making Finn feel awkward and not understand why sharing a room would be incredibly uncomfortable for him. It would be nice for the show to depict Kurt as realizing the error in his way because he's often a hypocrite: if you want people to respect you for who you are, you must do the same to them.
When I was watching the argument between Kurt and Finn I found myself siding with Finn. When he finally exploded and started calling the room 'faggy' I still was with him. Then the Dad came down and let him know why using that word was offensive I felt about two inches tll. And I am gay!
Agree with what your saying. I felt very sympathetic towards Kurt when Finn called his room "faggy." (sigh)
About Sue, DID YOU NOT SEE THE PROMO FOR NEXT WEEK'S EPISODE?! :D
Oh my gosh... Will's going to seduce her... O.o
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