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The Kurt storyline...well, I mean it's easy to sit home and judge the episodes and what the writers did good and what they failed to do, etc etc, but I think they handled it okay. I know they do want to have an impact on society and all that but at the end of the day, it IS a show and a show's FIRST goal (not the only goal, but it is the most important thing) is to get ratings. If written 100% realistically, I think it'd be quite a bit touchy and not very interesting. Sorry, it's just my opinions on this. I'm looking forward to Blaine though, :p
I totally agree with this review! I thought there was nothing wring in picturing her, will just shouldn't have said anything! and @Rinat I alos yelled eew and paused it immediately to ask my friend who had already seen it if he had really kissed her. that was unnecessary! it's also hard to beleive she's never been kissed..even when she was a teen? hmm..weird
In the first episode (of the first season), Rachel said she was a sophomore. I think in the "Like a Virgin" episode, Rachel made a conscious decision not to have sex, that up until then, she was exploring who would be the right person and under what circumstances to lose her virginity. That is, there sort of is continuity; however, the show's writers have always thrown out any continuity that would interfere with "the message" in each show.
I thought Will was rather patronizing with Beiste and that her willingness to go along made it hard to believe her feelings. I also can't imagine a teacher who's feelings would be hurt by finding out the kids in high school found them to be a turn off and didn't want to have sex with them. Don't teachers often joke to their students about the students' perceived divide between teacher-student generations? I don't see it as students bullying teachers for being homely in their eyes.
I also think, from personal experience, that the normal re
Puck y Artie was sooo cool, I love their performance!!!
If only the show would reach to the other side of the rainbow...the lesbian side...
Don't get me wrong, I teared up pretty much every time Blaine and Kurt were on screen together. And "Courage"? Amazing.
But Kurt's had so many storylines and yet the closest thing to a lesbian on the show is Brittany who also happens to be a complete slut and airhead.
Buffy did wonders for me when I was younger, but I haven't seen a lesbian relationship on TV since 2003. Come on Glee, keep pushing those boundaries!
I agree with everything except for the kurt/jock kiss. I don't think it was an easy way out.. I think the show is just trying to portray different types of ways highschoolers handle being gay, Point being: Blaine ran away from his problem, Jock is taking his anger out on anybody who is differnt and Kurt stood up for himself. On the other hand i saw it coming this episode so maybe i looked at it differently, instead of just wondering what that kids problem was i had already assumed that the kiss would happen.
i personally loved this episode- they came back to what makes this show great: stories focused on the characters and their unique personalities, not just paying tribute to a celebrity or style of music. (that being said, I also did love the Rocky Horror episode, but it was just fun!) Sue Sylvester continues to crack me up- "I'm gonna have to look at some horrific things to get this image out of my head. Gonna have to go to the wound care center. Gonna have to look at some wounds." (or something like that LOL)
good but average
In the review you say: "that a majority of bullies are simply mean because they are high school students, and most high school students are insecure, and a number of them deal with that insecurity by putting others down". I know this happens a lot but this is now a normal behavior.
But people are lazy. People are lazy and they think it is ok to have this kind of behavior around because it takes a lot more effort to change those narrow-minded teenagers.
The kids who pout others down in order to make themselves feel better are just accentuating the problem. I have been thought that on high school. I was an average student, I wasn't popular but I wasn't the loner, I was cute, but no the prettiest. And sometimes other girls took advantage of that, I wouldn't use advantage, because that would imply being pretty or popular was something better than what I had in hs, but they did misstreat certain groups as if they were superior to rest of us. That's not normal. I was always lucky enough
i loved the focus on kurt. i feel deep sypmathy for him, i hope he'll stay strong. and the way they did teenage dream, though i love katy perry, was better for me, than the original.
I too thought the show dodged the issue of bullying and made it about something else. That it turned out to be about coming to grips with the difficulties of being gay in a straight world was okay by me. The jock kiss DID come out of the blue, and is a choice. I noticed that they didn't bring his buddy, the other jock into the ep. Con VEN ient.
The entire "One To Grow On" scene with Will and and Shannon Beiste I was saying "Don't kiss her. Don't kiss her. Don't kiss her." because it was only going to come out to be a pity kiss. That's no what Beiste was after....On the other hand. If I were in her position, even that small gesture would be a balm to me. I'd know it wasn't a gesture of love, but after years of something else, I'd take a gesture of honest friendship, and take it for what it was. Funny, when I started typing this paragraph, I was going to go the other way, but now, I'm fine with the moment.
I thought the glam rock girl's song this week was terrible.
When the kiss part aires, i literally shouted out, one huge "EW" and closed my eyes.
Never been here before but here are my thoughts. In regards to the episode, I think it was one of the better ones of the season. It wasn't gimmicky or laying it thick in tribute to any one artist. I feel Kurt is the only character with a storyline this season, but no complaints here, he's my favorite. I do also hope blaine stays as a mentor and eventually he meets someone else, maybe even the bully. I had hopes for Sam beeing closeted but now it would be overkill. Yes I understand that not all bullies are closeted homos, but just because not all of them are doesn't mean that this one shoudln't be. It brings up many more possibilities.
As for the bieste storyline, i liked it. It was funny but it did point out something good. Bieste still wants to feel like a woman. I was revolted however by the fact that the man slut, will, stole her first kiss. I literraly wanted to strangle him. I hope they bring up this issue, with them either dating, or him paying for that. 'cause th
I really like the episode.
I think that Chris Colfer is plays Kurt perfectly, loved the Teenage Dream rendition and I actually like Blaine, I thought it was creepy though that Kurt had a picture of him in his locker, framed and everything.
I was not expecting the Jock to kiss Kurt, that threw me for a loop but now that I think about it, it did feel forced.
I loved Sue's lines, as always.. it's funny that she's always trying to get rid of Beiste, maybe she's jealous of her idk.
I loved Puck's storyline, I think it made him more human and likable and I loved tha performance of One Love, the Artie/Puck friendship is pretty interesting.
I loved the mash up songs. Both of them were really good.
I thought the Beiste sl was pretty funny, I guess that's mean but it was for comedy, I feel bad for her sure, maybe the girls will give her a makeover of something, that would be nice..... I thought that Will was going to kiss her, and it just didn't seem right, I know he had good int
@Monty: I respectfully disagree. If you ask Ryan Murphy, I'm sure he'd be the first to say his goal with Glee is to be much more than just a TV show at this point.
They created this episode specifically in light of the recent gay suicides/tragedies at the hands of bullying. That's fine, that's their call - but no other show would ever think about doing this. There's absolutely a desire to have a societal impact beyond mere entertainment.
First. I think a lot of people look at Glee for more than what it actually is. Yes, they do deal with social issues and topical issues but they are not out to "change the world". Ultimately its just a TV show, its just entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is more than that will become disillusioned with the show over time. Enjoy it for what it is.
I thought the gay kiss was a bit strange and didnt really deal with the issue of bullying. Most high school bullys are not closeted homosexuals trying to deny their feelings, however, the show might have some effect in the long run.
I would say about 99% of high school girls, and a healthy percentage of high school boys, both very impressionable and easily influenced, watch this show. Now when a bully starts to pick on someone there will be a thought of "maybe he's in the closet". Now most jock/bullies probably dont watch the show but word, and rumor, travels fast in a high school. Being labeled "gay" is not the type of reputation these
I actually see the kiss coming when i saw the look the jock gave to kurt after he pushed kurt....
I am actually surprised that most of you didn't see it.... (is being gay a factor...? :P)
well.. About blaine it would be much better if he will stay as a mentor/friend to kurt... Yes, kurt will highly probably fall for him, but it's out of desperation... And it's kind of sad if they have a relationship... it will send an ugly message that gay guys will easily fall for the first other gay they encounter....(well, i can't really blame kurt tho, blaine is totally cute ;P )
I would much prefer the jock becoming kurt's love interest while kurt helps the jock out of closet... It would be much more interesting
Though the kiss between Beiste and Will was sweet, it was a little "ugh", too. I know it's just a kiss, but it's a kiss she'd been waiting 40 years for.
I loved the confetti cannon scene with Sue. It was hilariously terrifying. I'm glad they showed that Sue is a bully but kind of hoped they'd show it more, because everyone knows she's the biggest bully on the show.
I agree with the Karofsky thing. That kiss COMPLETELY caught me off guard (kudos to the Glee staff for really shocking me for the first time) but I still wanted to see how Kurt would handle the situation otherwise. Though I must admit I kind of like that storyline, even if it felt very sudden. I mean, wasn't he just drooling over Rachel a few episodes ago?
Darren Criss is excellent in his role. His line "well he's not coming out any time soon" was delivered perfectly. Basically, the guy is good.
I couldn't agree more... Sometimes it feels that I still love Glee (and I do) because I want to (so freaking much) rather than because it delivers good material. I have a huge issue with storyline and development and it bugs me since the back nine last season. Some say there are back on track with character development but I don't. I kinda get anxious when I hear about a song to be featured on the show because I can't help thinking "how will they bend the storyline for it to serve the song" (shouldn't be the other way around??).
I still find enjoyment in most episodes taken individually but as a whole it’s lacking to me.
@warha: You're right. I should have stuck with "nuanced" over "complicated," but I do stick to my point: most bullies aren't closeted gays. That's too easy of an explanation for the show's benefit.
Elsewhere, not sure why you take exception to my point about sex and high school girls. Okay, 50% of them wait to have sex - is that any different than what I said? Wasn't my entire point that there's a wide range of students and that not everyone is as conservative as Rachel or as loose as Santana?
the Rachel abstinence thing doesn't make any sense cause in the first season she was making out with Finn, Puck, Jesse (and if you rewatch these episodes, you clearly see that 'Grilled Cheesus' move was way less than what she was doing in the first season). Moreover, when she briefly joined the celebacy club last year, she told everyone that everyone was wanting sex (especially girls). It's not the first time Glee has strange plot that doesn't follow what they've done before but sometimes (okay, most of the time, it's really borry).
Moreover, in Grilled Cheesus, she didn't say that she wanted to wait until she will be 25 to have sex, but to have a bunch of babies (that's really different)
i disagree with yout statement about bullying. a lot of bullies have been bullied before, and there are plenty of stories of an overcompensation of homophobia because they feel ashamed. I have met few bullies who do it just because they think it's fun. Your explanation isn't more complicated, it's less. it's the stero-typical bully. this added another layer, and i think it's compltely realistic that he'd kiss kurt then push him the next day. also, the thing with rachel is, they're only what, sophmores? maybe seniors? there are a lot of girls who aren't willing to sleep with people that age, about 50% actually, according to statistics
I loved the Kurt storyline, it made sense, and while I was shocked when the bully kissed him, it was indeed the easy way out. Not all bullies act out in such a manner, most of them are just keeping people down to elevate themselves and because they are petrified that someone is going to see how scared they really are about life. I didn't dislike the episode or even the Beiste setup but I did dislike making Will kiss Beiste, it was unnecessary and it was a bit cruel because how could that kiss have been anything other than a pity smooch. I also wonder why Rachel is now cast as the girl that won't have sex, she has always been open about her sexuality and that she is willing to be intimate with someone special. It just seems odd to me that she is made to be holding off on sex until she's 25! And why oh why must they cast the Glee girls as either as completely off sex or very promiscuous?? That all aside...I really love Glee!
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