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November 7th, 2010 6:46 PM
@SerenaVDW
You've missed my point. As a friend, I would hope you had enough smarts to know when to push and when to just be supportive. As a friend, I would hope that a instead of pushing a traumatized friend to confront something she is clearly not ready to confront and to further traumatize this friend - a rape victim, one would have enough sensitivity to know thatyour sense of right and wrong doesn't trump the wishes of your friend. Perhaps Addison could have done more to help Charlotte make the right decision. However, the decision isn't up to Addison, but rather Charlotte... the victim. To take further power away from someone who was powerless to defend herself against an incomprehensible violation would simply be wrong. If you truly disagree with this, then I hope you are never put in the same situation that Addison was put in.
Either way, the story isn't over. This episode was about the aftermath. My understanding is the rape kit needs to be done within 24-48 hours.
Rank: Guest Star
November 7th, 2010 6:11 PM
@SerenaVDW Amelia picked up on it by Charlotte's insistance not to have any drugs. She put two and two together. I didn't find it fake.
Rank: Guest Star
November 7th, 2010 4:36 PM
So Amelia who is practically new to the show, therefore to Charlotte's life just blurts out that prayer from AA or NA and I'm not allowed to say the interaction seemed fake? Charlotte doesn't want the world to know she is weak but she is willing to share that she was a drug addict and bond over it with someone she barely knows? That seems weird. It feels like Shonda wanted to intertwine everyone's lives into this storyline. What's next? Naomi went to high school with the rapist? It feels forced.
@Ken
So you think being a friend means doing everything your friend tells you to do? Ade is a grown up womaN and knows that she should report the rape. Not only for the sake of potential victims, but for Charlotte's well being. They might have lost important evidence against the rapist. How do you think Charlotte will feel if he is roaming the streets freely? Sure, Charlotte would get mad at Ade but eventually she would fogive her (and if she didn't, still the important thing is getting
November 7th, 2010 2:57 PM
I'm a regular Private Practice viewer, and I've been waiting for this episode to air since I read an interview by Kadee about her upcoming rape storyline. You see, I was raped by a stranger at knifepoint in a dark parking lot back in 1986 while I was in college. It was the most devastating moment in my life and although I've been healed from it, I know that I carry indelible emotional scars.
So coming from a survivor's perspective, I offer this commentary. They got a lot of things right in this episode. The shock, the survival mode, wanting to protect your loved ones from the horror you just experienced, and the pain and terror of having to go through a pelvic exam after having just been raped. I was crying throughout this episode as they so vividly described what she was going through. It was very well acted by everyone and made it seem real.
But like many other viewers, I was so disappointed that they would have Charlotte hide the rape from the police and everyone else
Rank: Recurring Character
November 7th, 2010 2:18 PM
this episode was astounding. the way that charlotte reacted fit her character so well and was just devastating to watch
Rank: Guest Star
November 7th, 2010 9:49 AM
@Ken you made some really, REALLY good points. Well done on your post.
I actually think Shonda DID make a statement by not having Charlotte report the rape. She showed the consequence of it, which was how the police was unable to hold Lee, despite his bloody clothes and the admittance that he had raped a woman.
A lot of women has said that taking that route with the characters, Shonda made them think more closely about what they would do in Charlotte's place.
When show creators make episodes basically into a public statement, showing what is the desirable outcome, the episode becomes boring, predictable and has very little effect, but going the complete opposite direction, taking chances by showing a less desired outcome, the show creators challenge us to think. That's what Shonda did.
Rank: Extra
November 7th, 2010 9:11 AM
@Ken Agree with everything you've said! This episode was very realistic, not easy to watch, but great and real!
November 7th, 2010 4:07 AM
Great episode. Probably PP's best. It was heart-wrenching and went into many of the issues surrounding the attack and rape of women that most people, especially men, wouldn't typically consider. As for the criticisms others have posted, I think some of you are out to lunch.
1. Considering the percentage of women who do not report rapes, what Charlotte chose to do was more realistic. We don't just see her refuse to report the rape. We get some pretty good insights into why she's so adamant about not reporting it. Sorry it offends your sensibilities but any woman who goes through the trauma of a rape (as graphically as it was portrayed in this episode), you can imagine it would mess with your judgment. The show choosing to take this road isn't a statement to support for women who don't report rapes. It shows how a woman, barely hanging on, makes choices just to survive such an attack. Being an educated and powerful woman doesn't teach one how to psychologically handle such a unfathoma
November 7th, 2010 12:24 AM
Can someone tell me what the piano piece is at the beginning of the episode "Did You Hear What Happened to Charlotte King?" It's so familiar it's killing me.
November 6th, 2010 11:16 PM
I have been a big fan of PP for a while and think that this episode was phenomenal in its acting and portrayal. However, given the severity of the issue portrayed, PP should have done more to educate on what should be done in event of a rate. It's television, and likely, the perpetrator will be caught and punished. In real life, this would never happen. As soon as Charlotte left the hospital, without a rape kit, she lost all evidence in her case. Yes, we should be happy that Charlotte remains strong and brave. But isn't it more brave and strong to report the rape? We need to take the stigma away that being raped means that women are weak or are victims. What this episode should have done is empowered women to have a voice and fight their attackers. I'm sure this will be resolved in a later episode, but I'm disappointed in the writers for not doing more.
November 6th, 2010 10:20 PM
ok. some of you guys are just being ridiculously critical. Unless you have been raped and/or attacked, how can you possibly even begin to know how a victim should feel or react? you cant. So stop being so critical of the way that Charlotte responded. KaDee did an outstanding job portraying Charlotte in this episode. It was such a powerful episode!
btw..@Samadoo....if you listen carefully to the dialogue they said that Charlotte is allergic to local anesthetics. (such as lidocaine) and the way that she reacted or was portrayed does not, or should not, send a message to all rape victims or women. People react to things in different ways.
@SerenaVDW...the Serenity prayer is not "poor dialogue". Its the prayer that is recited before every NA and AA meeting as a tool of strength for the addicts. Also, Charlotte said that the man slapped her so hard she "saw God". It was a figure of speech. And her soul is hurt because her pride is hurt.
i thought this was an amazing episode and portr
November 6th, 2010 3:39 PM
I am going to agree with Amelia's post and go even further. I actually feel like writing to ABC about this episode. Not about the graphic episode, it could have been very good until it was reduced to idiocy. First of all, the rape as Addison said, LEGALLY needs to be reported. But what was even more disturbing to me was so much more. Charlotte and Amelia are both in NA? and yet throw down booze? NOT the way it works. and along that line, there were a number of things that could have reduced Charlotte's pain without pain medication..such as lidocane? anyone ever hear of that? That's what they usually use when administering stiches, it's NOT pain medication it numbs the area so one does not feel pain while having needles stuck in their bodies. She could have been given a local anesthetic easily. and again, I know personally that it is NOT condoned for anyone in narcotics anonymous to drink just as it is not ok in AA to take pills UNLESS there is a medical reason. There were so many ridic
Rank: Guest Star
November 6th, 2010 7:20 AM
@SerenaVDW
The serenity prayer is apparently something that is taught or shared or something within the AA/NA. By saying the prayer Amelia communicated to Charlotte that not only did she understand why Charlotte refused pain medication (we learned already in 1x06 that Charlotte has had to deal with a drug problem), but that she, too, is dealing with a drug problem (which we learned in 3x22 and in Amelia's Grey's episode). It was a bonding scene between the two women.
November 6th, 2010 1:09 AM
Actually, I was very frustrated with the handling of this storyline. All of these highly educated, powerful women who see this type of horrific crime in their careers and advise multitudes of other women on how to deal with serious issues, yet suddenly, they've all lost their brains and real strength. It doesn't take strength to deny it happened; the reality is Charlotte IS a victim of a crime; it doesn't mean she becomes an insipid person by acknowledging that someone else committed rape against her. By not reporting it, they become the weak ones here, and actually give the rapist more power. And a couple of other nitpicks...surely, despite her NA status, they could have put her under or done some other type of pain management that wwhen they gave her the stitches? And letting a drunk Amelia "operate"? C'mon. And in a city the size of LA, the only shrink that gets called when they've got a bloody detainee at the jail has had a sexual relationship with what turns out to be the victim.
November 6th, 2010 1:03 AM
That was the most gut-wrenching episode of any show I have ever seen about rape. Period. And, Cooper, completely unable to deal with the assault on "his" woman; making her take care of him. Gut. Wrenching. I watch this show for its frivolity, not to wind up a weeping mess. Never a dull moment, Shondra.
November 6th, 2010 12:21 AM
Great acting by Kadee, Kate, etc. intense episode that this series needed!
Still can't stand Sam and Addison together or the superfluous and redundant character of Amelia....neither gel togther for me!
Rank: Extra
November 5th, 2010 11:41 PM
Fantastic Episode! A lot of depth in the characters being explored. A real tear jerker
Rank: Guest Star
November 5th, 2010 11:27 PM
Also if I were Addison I would have told the police. Yes, it is not what Charlotte wanted, but it was the right thing to do... and I don't mean right in a general kind of way, but right for Charlotte.
Besides, last week Ade was all about reporting a crime to the police.
Rank: Guest Star
November 5th, 2010 11:17 PM
Kadee's acting was excellent but it was the dialogue which I didn't like at some parts. Like when she talks with Amelia and they say that line which goes something like "God give me serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can and wisdom to know the difference". It felt kind of out of place, like the whole interaction with Amelia.
Then, when Charlotte talked about seeing God when she was raped. And also when she told Pete that what hurt the most was her soul (I know it probably is true, but I don't know if anyone would say that and I found it so cliche that I even imagined that was what she was thinking/going to say).
Rank: Extra
November 5th, 2010 10:00 PM
gr8 show and gr8 episode... it is been tow years that PP surpass grey's anatomy ... and this episode shows it ... very realistic scenes... and realistic reaction from Charlotte .... it is her hostipal... where she works ... she is gonna come everyday to her work and everyone looking at her like a victim who got raped...
for all those who said that she should say it ... i think she will eventually do ... it is just help the plot in the show not to admit her rape and it totally fits her character!!!!!!!!!
just one thing amazinnnnnnnnggggg episode
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November 5th, 2010 8:05 PM
KaDee Strickland made a perfect job, I didn't expect more.
Congratulations to her it was a great episode and performance.
Rank: Extra
November 5th, 2010 5:59 PM
KaDee did a spectacular job!!! This episode was so gripping and terrifying I couldn't keep my eyes off the tv. I knew Charlotte would not report that she had been raped, she is a very strong woman and sees this as a weakness because she couldn't defend herself. Look how upset she became when Cooper called her a "victim", it just goes to show how strong she really is. This happens far too often as someone said. When it comes down to it, it is the victims choice whether or not to report the rape.
November 5th, 2010 5:21 PM
Not reporting rape under any circumstance is unforuntate indeed. You can't save yourself after rape, but you can save someone else from the same fate. It's not fair. It's not easy. But it must be done.
November 5th, 2010 3:21 PM
By far an epic episode. for PP. Kadee & Chandra should be nominated for an emmy easily. From most of the commnets I have seen, people are sooo critical of Charlotte not saying anything but I think people fail to realize that Charlotte is a PROUD woman and just like she said to Addision, she didn't want people lookin at her the way Addison was lookin at her at that moment. When you have alot of EGO that supersedes the issue at hand. CLEARLY, it will come out so we should stay tuned. I almost had to turn the TV off when Charlotte was receiving stitches for her arm. The acting was TREMENDOUS!! All the storylines show you the origins of many circumstances of rape victimes from the rapist to the horror that the victims are exposed to. I applaud PP for tackling this horrific but significant issue.
November 5th, 2010 2:43 PM
it seems like the other doctors realize charlotte was raped, right? the way pete tells addison "when a woman is... attacked... it's better to have another woman" and when charlotte says she feels like she's a war vet and charlotte's vietnam, and when pete sees charlotte's office.. how did he know that it happened in charlotte's office? can someone explain this part to me?