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May 18th, 2011 7:59 PM
CBS has signed the TGW death warrent for season 3 on a sunday schedule, putting it up against some top notch shows. Sunday Night Football,Desperate Housewives, Army Wives and others on lifetime and Hallmark channels.
Bill@ Keep up your views they are right on, also Karen and Emily you also have shown where the morals went wrong.
May 18th, 2011 7:38 PM
I don't really ship Alicia and Will, and don't even like Will much, but I was totally thrilled by the ending. It was PERFECT!! I really don't get those who saw this as impulsive. It's been building for a LONG time for God's sake! Sure, there will definitely be consequences, but that makes me even happier that the writers will have no problem keeping things interesting between them after ward. There will be LOTS of drama among all of them next season, and I CAN'T WAIT to see how it all plays out!!
May 18th, 2011 7:27 PM
Me thinks Bill has way too much time on his hands! LOL! It's a TV show Bill!!! Lighen up!
May 18th, 2011 7:00 PM
Couldn't disagree with you more amy s. Your "just do it if it feels good because life is so short" take on will and Alicia's hot hook-up is why a lot of people end of self-destructing and destroying the lives of many around them.
I find it ironic that you justify waht Alicia and Will did and yet I'm sure you think Peter was scum for doing much the same thing (which he was). And no, I am not comparing what Peter did to Alicia sleeping with Will (yes, she had been separated for a whole week), just the justification for it.
Wouldn't it be great if everyone could do whatever they wanted if it felt good, because life is short? Maybe in your world that's how it works. Not in mind. I've seen people with that kind of attitude and the pain they cause others. I've seen first hand what happens when people sleep with their bosses. I've seen how ugly divorces can get when one spouse immediately takes up with the same person the other accused them of having an affair with. Do you actually thin
May 18th, 2011 6:56 PM
Alicia will regret that. She's acting like how she was betrayed, shes slept with a guy who was still in relationship (even if he doesn't seem to care) and she is still married enough that she is wearing her ring & not thinking about divorce. But i think that is the writers point, To show her how easy it is to make that mistake and bring her down from her "moralist" view.
May 18th, 2011 6:40 PM
Karen, I agree with you completely. I have made some of the mistakes in my younger years (I'm 61 now) that I see Alicia making and I know first hand the significant problems that it can cause. Yes, it's only a TV show, but many viewers apparently really believe there is nothing wrong about what Alicia did and there should not be any negative consequences from her actions. I doubt the Kings agree with that and I expect that they will address those consequences fairly early in S3. And I also suspect that Will may not look so much like Alicia's "Knight in Shining Armor" by the end of season.
May 18th, 2011 6:05 PM
I watched the ending 3 times and am distraught that there might not be a third season this is he best show ever. I am so so so so amazed by the way they shot their hook up. I was sure that they would do the old last minute back out and at first when it was playing out like a tawdry drunken one off I felt jipped bc I a so invested in Will and Alicia finally having their time and yet it went down so well. IT WAS HOT! I LOVE THIS SHOW and think they have done an incredible job of finally throwing us a bone when it come to the team will vs team peter race for Alicia's heart. Now if they can sort Carey anf Kalinda out, make Alicia and Kalinda besties again and get that nice investigator back for Diane everything will be as it should be. I really hope this is given time to develop and they don't pull out the rug from underneath us and make it a mistake that Alicia and Will have to regret and not feel guilty about. When it is right there is nothing wrong and hang all this alicia is married an
May 18th, 2011 5:32 PM
No Gary, I don't accept the flaws of others and judge Alicia more harshly. However, what many fans have done is not judge Alicia at all. She does not get a free pass to do anything she wants because of what Peter or Kalinda did to her.
As far as never having taken Peter back, have we been watching the same show? They were sleeping together again and from one scene showing them lying in bed to gether they BOTH seemed to really be enjoying being intimate again. She also had very supportive of his campaign she was definitely at least starting to forgive him, but being around will every day was not helping. Peter was right when he said there had been a third person in their marriage for the last 2 years and she damn well knew it was true. Any marriage counselor would tell you that such a situation makes any attempt at reconciliation much harder.
Peter had kept his word to have his campaign affect his family as little as possible. Alicia was obviously starting to trust him again. The
May 18th, 2011 5:00 PM
I guess I saw the scene between Kalinda and her "girlfriend" differently. I thought Kalinda was upset because she felt she was coming between a married couple again.
Also, I think that if Alicia does sleep with Will, she will come to realize her judging Kalinda for sleeping with a married man is somewhat unfair - especially when she was basically being blackmailed into it. It didn't sound like Will has formally broken up with his girlfriend so couldn't he also be considered a cheater, along with Alicia?
May 18th, 2011 4:39 PM
I can't believe all the people who are so happy and excited about Alicia finally getting in on with Will. Have you not watched this show before? There are two main themes in how the Kings write the scripts for TGW. First, all the characters are flawed to some degree. None of them are all good or all bad. Inspite of what the Peter haters think, even he had some positive qualities and IMO, the Kings did try to give indications throughtout this season that he was not the same man that cheated on his wife with the hooker OR Kalinda 2 years ago. But of course, many fans didn't care about that or didn't want to admit that he had become a better man. They just wanted Alicia to sleep with Will. And I think she did sleep with him. Because it opens the door for Kings to inject their other writing trait into next season's scripts - there are consequences in life when you think with another part of your anatomy other than your brain. Alicia has just slept with her boss about a week after separatin
May 18th, 2011 4:32 PM
Old prude that I am, I totally agree with you on all counts in your review of this episode. Unlike so many fans, I have my reservations about Will where Alicia is concerned and think it was out of character for her to jump into bed with him so soon after the separation - even considering the drinks consumed. I was actually rooting for Peter to prove that he's turned over a new leaf so that Alicia would remain with him.
Listen up, young people. It's not all about personal gratification. Sometimes you stay with the guy because of the kids or for the economic security or for any number of reasons. Then you honor the commitment. And sometimes the other person grows up or just plain grows and you grow closer again and forge a better, stronger relationship.
I believe that people can change. I've seen it and experienced it. Peter's "new" sin was in his past life, but Alicia's tryst with Will is in her present, and it could come back to bite her big time.
Can we still call her the
May 18th, 2011 4:21 PM
You guys realize it can take months/years fora separation to become final, nevermind a divorce. Is she supposed to abstain for that long? Cut the girl a break. We all know its over between her and Peter. She's never taking him back. And I think any leverage Pater may get from this will be thoroughly outweighed by banging a hooker 18 times and sleeping with a co-worker as payment to help her change her name and then lying about it. Go Alicia. I'm happy for her.
It annoys how people can accept the flaws of other characters and then hold Alicia to a much higher standard, even though she has a aqueaky clean record and has the right to do what she pleases.
May 18th, 2011 4:17 PM
Did anyone see the smile in Alisha's eyes just before Will kissed her in the elevator? Flashed by in less than a second ... but I'm happy for her that this happened. She of all the characters deserve some happiness, for all the sh*t that Peter put her through. Some people have castigated Alisha's decision for lack of consideration for her kids, but I can honestly say that if my parents went through the same problems as Peter/Alisha, I would have wanted my mom to find happiness on her own terms, even if it was in the arms of another man who cherished her the way she deserves to be cherished. I have a bad feeling that Alisha/Will will be made to pay for this next season, but please writers, go easy on them!
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May 18th, 2011 3:57 PM
Seriously guys? I don't get why some of you are thinking that Alicia and Will were inappropriate. They are obviously in love and they want each other. There's no reason they should not go for it. The five last minutes were absolutely awesome, I've been waiting for this to happen since the pilot. Best episode ever!!!
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May 18th, 2011 3:43 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that the moment they got into that obscenely expensive hotel room, Grace phoned Alicia's cell to report that Grandma had shown up again, and so "Martyr Mother of the Year" raced off to "protect" her children, leaving Will sitting all alone in that $7,800 room. Her kids don't need her that badly, but parents always think they need to ditch their own happiness to wait on their spoiled little darlings.
As for the Kalinda/Sophia scene, doesn't anyone else see the hypocrisy in having YET ANOTHER steamy lesbian scene for K. (the third, I believe, with the cute nurse waiting in the wings for her turn too)? Meanwhile, what is Owen doing? Is he shown in bed with a hot guy? Not a chance!
He's being The Good Uncle, taking his nephew and niece out for pizza. It seems that gay men are only acceptable on TV if they are completely sexless and miserable -- like in Will & Grace, where we saw the two straight women kiss each other more then Will ever kissed
May 18th, 2011 3:24 PM
This whole epi was awesome. So looking forward to Alicia having some fun and loving from Will. I like those two together.
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May 18th, 2011 3:17 PM
I have said this before but I have to say it again I love this show and these characters.
I am torn with Will & Alicia possibly hooking up. One part of me has been hoping for it since the series began but another part of me thought they took no precautions. Making out in the elevator?? getting a room in the same hotel you had a drink in?? Really there was just no sense of the consequences that could arise from any of it. Plus I agree she is still a married woman and I hope she backs out.
So happy Eli is around and on the LG team for next season, I was really hoping they would find a realistic was to keep both him and Owen around. Owen and Jackie will be hilarious.
I don't agree the Kalinda hook up scene was useless, I thought it showed a lot of growth for her. I loved how she and Alicia kept talking over each other at the door. I really thought it was Cary too. So the question is did Peter really change or was he just trying to get the mess out the door before h
May 18th, 2011 3:14 PM
I loved the show & wish we could have seen more than the elevator door opening & closing. Paying $7800 for an hour should have entitled us to get a better peek than just a kiss. Also, I could have done just fine w/o the bedroom scene with Kalinda & Sophia!!! Did we really need to see that?
May 18th, 2011 3:07 PM
I can't believe people on this site are upset about the Bi-scene with Kalinda and Kelli. I thought it was beautiful. here's a vulnerable Kalinda being upset because her ex is doing what Kalinda did to Alicia--learning from her life actions how it feels to be "cheated" on. And with out all the hetero rules that usually stand in for real feelings. Kalinda is actually learning WHY there are behavior rules in sex, not just being upset because an outdated "code" is beong violated. I thought that was a brilliant scene--but as I say, is 21st century America ready for intelligent TV?
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May 18th, 2011 2:56 PM
I was thinking that maybe this affair will allow Alicia to forgive Peter and Kalinda. I'm not saying that I disapprove of what happened with Will or Alicia or think that they will live happily ever after, but I do think that Alicia needed something to reset her relationships with Peter and Kalinda and this might have been a way to do that. I do not want Peter and Alicia to be together in the end, but I would like them to eventually find some dignity and grace with each other. And I really miss the friendship between Kalinda and Alicia. She needs to forgive her, both for Kalinda's sake and for her own.
May 18th, 2011 2:39 PM
I thought this was a great episode. Sure, Alicia's behavior was inappropriate, but this show is all about moral ambiguity. Every character exhibits moments of weakness, pragmatism and yearning that lead them away from the strictly moral path. That's what makes it so interesting. To see Alicia always able to stay moral and good when the rest of the characters exhibit the more realistic, complexities of human nature would make Alicia seem less human. This season has been fantastic and I am eagerly awaiting next season!
May 18th, 2011 2:30 PM
There is definitely more chemistry between Alicia and Will and I can't wait to see how all this plays out next year.
LOVED the elevator scene too!
People are not perfect, they are not black or white and I think this show depicts it so well. They followed their hearts for a moment. Let's see what happens after that...
May 18th, 2011 2:23 PM
Well I had liked this show up until last night. Like Grey's Anatomy they have to throw in the woman-on-woman scenes. It's not prudish to dislike this type of storyline. A good script does not need this. I have to write off "Chase" also. Just my opinion.
May 18th, 2011 2:18 PM
I loved the last 5 minutes also, my only gripe was that I was hoping for a more romantic overture. I sort of expected that Will would confess about the voice mail. I also very much wonder if they really did sleep together. I think we really can't assume they did. I also noticed the part about Will and having a family, could be an interesting plot point for next season.
There is also still such a double standard about Alicia's actions. Why is it assumed that sleeping with Will (if she did) will "ruin" her life and career? No one says that about any man.
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May 18th, 2011 2:13 PM
I'm just curious if everyone who is so disappointed in Alicia now actually LIKE Peter, tolerate him or think he should have left Alicia before he ever cheated on her. I don't remember those discussion points. That he shouldn't be married to her and begging her forgiveness because he should never have cheated in the first place. No, two wrongs don't make a right, but being a woman doesn't mean you don't have longings and urges, as well. Especially after you have been torn to shreds again and again for two years. Seems a lot of people let men and women live by completely separate standards. Just sayin.