So my question is are the brother and sister apart of the Phtomon 8
tiva (Tania) Rank: Recurring Character
November 16th, 2011 6:28 PM
I liked the episode I felt bad for the little girls. I liked how Tony fear was kids Kay right hes real fear is dying alone. I glad she got home alive. felt bad for the marine that died. great episode looking forward for next week show with Tony's dad.
Earth Orbiter
November 16th, 2011 6:19 PM
annie921: I like what you had to say. Its nice to hear from someone who doesn't think every character on this show is a god or, as you aptly put it, a "superhero." I wrote a few weeks ago I would really like to see Gibbs and Co FAIL at something. In short, I would like to see these people portrayed as more "human." I know I'm going to get cyber-spanked for writing this, but I appreciated your input.
annie921
November 16th, 2011 5:49 PM
I wasn't crazy about the episode, but I guess I liked the good old days of NCIS, when the stories and characters were more believable. Even though I liked the focus on marines, and generally liked the story. Two civilian state side agents would never be sent to a combat zone to retrieve a marine. Ziva grew up something like 2000 miles from Afghanistan - how is that her back yard? As one poster in another forum put it - they write Ziva as if she is Batman's utility belt - she pulls out whatever skill set is needed at that moment (and you always wondered how they could stuff so much miraculous stuff into one tiny belt). I don't want a cartoon caricature super heroine no matter how sexy she looks in her combat gear. I wish they would spread the skills around like in the good old days. It just blows the whole show's credibility. And as usual, Tony got to be the joke. Afraid of toddlers. Yes - I really miss the good old days of NCIS.
Hess
November 16th, 2011 5:46 PM
Great episode start to finish
Susan
November 16th, 2011 5:17 PM
This 2-part show was awesome, last week and last night. I am also a Marine mom, and an Army mom, and my son is going to Afghanistan next month. I love the respect that is shown to the military by the actors and writers. I'm glad we are learning more about Gibbs' past. He met Shannon before Matteson, but they were not married yet. I hope they show some of their early years. Sean does a good job of portraying his dad as a young man.
garal
November 16th, 2011 2:44 PM
I to have noticed a bit of change with Tim but it all goes back to the real actors troubles. He had a bit of alcohole abuse in the past and that is what caused him to be a bit chunky. For the past year or so he has been clean and has lost a lot weight.
gigi
November 16th, 2011 2:29 PM
Josie...agreed. Gibbs does need a fling. I'm assuming that'll happen with Jamie Lee Curtis in the 2-parter in Feb?
Josie Leeds Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2011 12:23 PM
AAgghh! Weds. morning quarterbacks....superb episode on all fronts: acting AND writing! I particularly enjoyed Ziva in warrior mode but I must agree with some other posters that McGee IS looking frail and his voice sounds stressed. Really wish SOMEONE would answer questions about him. Tony will always be a repressed adolescent-he IS afraid of growing up but I think he is even more afraid of becoming his father. Gibbs may love what he's doing but he DOES need a break, if only a flirtation with an interesting woman--that, so far, hasn't appeared.Writers are doing a better job this season.
Mel
November 16th, 2011 12:19 PM
I always enjoy reading everyone's comments, although I have to admit that I wasn't as fond of this episode as others. I just have a lot of issues with Gary Glasburg's writing, and this ep was rather disjointed and the dialog often cliche, much like his other efforts. But rather than dwell on the negative, I will say that I enjoyed the B story with Tony very much. I know some Tony fans thought it made him look silly, but I think it was very DiNozzo, with the surface all funny , but a closer look always yields something deeper and speaks to Tony's many layers. And I agree with the review that Michael Weatherly brought his A game. I continue to enjoy watching this talented actor get better and better.
Also like Ziva getting to be a ninja again, but with softer edges than the old Ziva. Her interaction with the children was great. And Mark Harmon was his usual wonderful self. Looking forward to the DiNozzo Sr. episode next week. I hope we get a bit of angst and some serious conf
Michael
November 16th, 2011 12:19 PM
gigi
Gibbs and Shannon are from the same town they meet right before he left for marines
gigi
November 16th, 2011 10:52 AM
AK...ITA. I really like Burke and her chemistry with the team. I'd like her to be a recurring character since she's stationed in the Navy Yard. She can hold her own with Gibbs, Tony, and the whole team. She could really help Tony (and even Gibbs someday) with some of their issues.
Gibbs taking Flores to dinner is just a nice gesture to someone who's been through a lot and made it home. The hand she grabbed was her father's, not Gibbs'. Good heavens...she's in her 20's and is around the same age as Kelly would be. He's being Daddy Gibbs with her just as he is with the team.
He met Shannon in 1976 and Mateson in '77. He and Shannon may not have been very deeply involved at that point, though, so no reason he couldn't show some interest in someone else. I just think certain situations make him remember past friends and losses. I mean at his age, he's lost a bunch of people...
Tony at the church as a great scene that reminds us there's more to him than the goofball persona he projects a good deal of the time. And, risking some flames being thrown my way by Tiva shippers, I liked the chemistry between him and Captain Burke - especially in the elevator when she let him know (in a gentle) she saw how broken he was. I wouldn't want her around during every episode, but I'd like to see her again.
john taaffe
November 16th, 2011 10:19 AM
THIS IS WHY IT IS THE #1 SHOW,OUTSTANDING WRITING AND ACTING
Michael
November 16th, 2011 9:49 AM
Tony talking to God was so cool and really show your never alone
also can't believe gibbs almost cheated on Shannon
Tony lover Rank: Extra
November 16th, 2011 9:12 AM
The kids made for a funny twist, but isn't Tony more afraid of dying? Alone, more specifically? I though that was what this biggest fear was dying/being alone. He did seem ok with them.
And I love in the church. Him Just talking to noone wanting to get his feeling out.
And of course all of Gibbs scenes were very powerful and moving.
But didnt he met Shannon first. At the bus stop was he was leaving. I think it was the ep when he went to see his dad and the team came.
coco14
November 16th, 2011 8:58 AM
Where to start? That was the best episode ever - I was so moved by the scene with the body being taken off the plane - everyone was excellent last night - to the person who asked about Gibbs and Flores - she reached for and held his hand at the burial. I cannot stop watching this show and all of the reruns - on my TV constantly when I am home.
I too have expressed concern weekly about McGee - his voice was so frail last night - I wish someone would address our concerns about him.
Stacey
November 16th, 2011 8:25 AM
I actually believe Gibbs meet Matteson before he meet Shannon. I think it goes to the point that Gibbs may be finally realizing that Shannon is not the only woman he could love. That he did love someone else, he just forgot about it until the situation with Flores.
bowduy
November 16th, 2011 8:24 AM
ziva is one hot bad ass! I've never been so turned on by a woman in full battle gear as i have last night. Gawd this woman will be the end of me.
kay
November 16th, 2011 3:32 AM
@Earth orbiter why would you think gibbs and flores would start seeing each other? i saw no evidence of that
Earth Orbiter
November 16th, 2011 3:21 AM
Pretty good episode, actually. So now Gibbs is hooking up with Flores? Interesting... especially considering that she's about to be court-martialed for disobeying a direct order, which you'd think would be a huge no-no in Gibbs' book. That, and she's 30+ years younger than him.
I liked how that cute little girl went right in for the hug on Tony at the end. His type of woman.
And does anyone know what's up with Sean Murray? His voice seems higher and he almost looks "frail." I know he lost a lot of weight with diet and exercise over the past couple of years, but now he looks - and sounds - like he's ill. Anybody have any info about that?
gigi
November 15th, 2011 11:16 PM
AWESOME episode! One of my favorites. And, no, Gibbs is not headed for a breakdown. He's getting a little more reflective and may eventually open up a little more about his loss, but tonight actually confirmed for me that he's totally satisfied with the fact that his skills can make such a difference in peoples' lives. I think he sincerely meant it when he told Vance that what he does "IS fun". It's what he was meant to do with his life.
Tony is most definitely not the "goofy" Tony of a few years ago. He still has that off-the-wall wit, but is also shown as being very capable at his job. He has a lot of serious thoughts going on, but tends to mask them with zingers and one-liners. Michael Weatherly is really growing as an actor too. He conveys all these conflicting emotions and makes it look easy...it's not.
Despite a couple of duds in "Penelope's Papers" and "Thirst", I'm really loving how this season is going. I think next week's Sr. episode will be lighter, but that's
Michael
November 15th, 2011 10:17 PM
I know their bad guys but you have to admit what the brother and sister said about us was true also was Abby a little selfish and snorting today or what when will people learn nothing we complain is mundane things God listen to all our issue no matter how big or small.
Tony was Awesome in the Church can't believe he scare of spoil rotten brats, I would like to see what his REAL fear is, Also did Gibbs really almost cheat on Shannon is that why he feel so guilty.
nancy
November 15th, 2011 10:13 PM
I just have to say, that Gibbs just keeps getting better looking with age, nad has a smile to kill for. GO GET EM GIBBS.
Kathy Hatfield
November 15th, 2011 10:10 PM
I found this episode both intense and moving. Gibbs with those young girls was awesome. Ziva with her compassion and caring was wonderful. As the mother or a Marine, some of this episode was hard to watch, but I believe the scenes in Afganistan were about as real as it gets! Kudos to the Writers, Cast and Crew on this one.
Abby: I knew that guy was trouble. He's like an evil McGee.
November 16th, 2011 8:52 PM
So my question is are the brother and sister apart of the Phtomon 8
Rank: Recurring Character
November 16th, 2011 6:28 PM
I liked the episode I felt bad for the little girls. I liked how Tony fear was kids Kay right hes real fear is dying alone. I glad she got home alive. felt bad for the marine that died. great episode looking forward for next week show with Tony's dad.
November 16th, 2011 6:19 PM
annie921: I like what you had to say. Its nice to hear from someone who doesn't think every character on this show is a god or, as you aptly put it, a "superhero." I wrote a few weeks ago I would really like to see Gibbs and Co FAIL at something. In short, I would like to see these people portrayed as more "human." I know I'm going to get cyber-spanked for writing this, but I appreciated your input.
November 16th, 2011 5:49 PM
I wasn't crazy about the episode, but I guess I liked the good old days of NCIS, when the stories and characters were more believable. Even though I liked the focus on marines, and generally liked the story. Two civilian state side agents would never be sent to a combat zone to retrieve a marine. Ziva grew up something like 2000 miles from Afghanistan - how is that her back yard? As one poster in another forum put it - they write Ziva as if she is Batman's utility belt - she pulls out whatever skill set is needed at that moment (and you always wondered how they could stuff so much miraculous stuff into one tiny belt). I don't want a cartoon caricature super heroine no matter how sexy she looks in her combat gear. I wish they would spread the skills around like in the good old days. It just blows the whole show's credibility. And as usual, Tony got to be the joke. Afraid of toddlers. Yes - I really miss the good old days of NCIS.
November 16th, 2011 5:46 PM
Great episode start to finish
November 16th, 2011 5:17 PM
This 2-part show was awesome, last week and last night. I am also a Marine mom, and an Army mom, and my son is going to Afghanistan next month. I love the respect that is shown to the military by the actors and writers. I'm glad we are learning more about Gibbs' past. He met Shannon before Matteson, but they were not married yet. I hope they show some of their early years. Sean does a good job of portraying his dad as a young man.
November 16th, 2011 2:44 PM
I to have noticed a bit of change with Tim but it all goes back to the real actors troubles. He had a bit of alcohole abuse in the past and that is what caused him to be a bit chunky. For the past year or so he has been clean and has lost a lot weight.
November 16th, 2011 2:29 PM
Josie...agreed. Gibbs does need a fling. I'm assuming that'll happen with Jamie Lee Curtis in the 2-parter in Feb?
Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2011 12:23 PM
AAgghh! Weds. morning quarterbacks....superb episode on all fronts: acting AND writing! I particularly enjoyed Ziva in warrior mode but I must agree with some other posters that McGee IS looking frail and his voice sounds stressed. Really wish SOMEONE would answer questions about him. Tony will always be a repressed adolescent-he IS afraid of growing up but I think he is even more afraid of becoming his father. Gibbs may love what he's doing but he DOES need a break, if only a flirtation with an interesting woman--that, so far, hasn't appeared.Writers are doing a better job this season.
November 16th, 2011 12:19 PM
I always enjoy reading everyone's comments, although I have to admit that I wasn't as fond of this episode as others. I just have a lot of issues with Gary Glasburg's writing, and this ep was rather disjointed and the dialog often cliche, much like his other efforts. But rather than dwell on the negative, I will say that I enjoyed the B story with Tony very much. I know some Tony fans thought it made him look silly, but I think it was very DiNozzo, with the surface all funny , but a closer look always yields something deeper and speaks to Tony's many layers. And I agree with the review that Michael Weatherly brought his A game. I continue to enjoy watching this talented actor get better and better.
Also like Ziva getting to be a ninja again, but with softer edges than the old Ziva. Her interaction with the children was great. And Mark Harmon was his usual wonderful self. Looking forward to the DiNozzo Sr. episode next week. I hope we get a bit of angst and some serious conf
November 16th, 2011 12:19 PM
gigi
Gibbs and Shannon are from the same town they meet right before he left for marines
November 16th, 2011 10:52 AM
AK...ITA. I really like Burke and her chemistry with the team. I'd like her to be a recurring character since she's stationed in the Navy Yard. She can hold her own with Gibbs, Tony, and the whole team. She could really help Tony (and even Gibbs someday) with some of their issues.
Gibbs taking Flores to dinner is just a nice gesture to someone who's been through a lot and made it home. The hand she grabbed was her father's, not Gibbs'. Good heavens...she's in her 20's and is around the same age as Kelly would be. He's being Daddy Gibbs with her just as he is with the team.
He met Shannon in 1976 and Mateson in '77. He and Shannon may not have been very deeply involved at that point, though, so no reason he couldn't show some interest in someone else. I just think certain situations make him remember past friends and losses. I mean at his age, he's lost a bunch of people...
Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2011 10:20 AM
Tony at the church as a great scene that reminds us there's more to him than the goofball persona he projects a good deal of the time. And, risking some flames being thrown my way by Tiva shippers, I liked the chemistry between him and Captain Burke - especially in the elevator when she let him know (in a gentle) she saw how broken he was. I wouldn't want her around during every episode, but I'd like to see her again.
November 16th, 2011 10:19 AM
THIS IS WHY IT IS THE #1 SHOW,OUTSTANDING WRITING AND ACTING
November 16th, 2011 9:49 AM
Tony talking to God was so cool and really show your never alone
also can't believe gibbs almost cheated on Shannon
Rank: Extra
November 16th, 2011 9:12 AM
The kids made for a funny twist, but isn't Tony more afraid of dying? Alone, more specifically? I though that was what this biggest fear was dying/being alone. He did seem ok with them.
And I love in the church. Him Just talking to noone wanting to get his feeling out.
And of course all of Gibbs scenes were very powerful and moving.
But didnt he met Shannon first. At the bus stop was he was leaving. I think it was the ep when he went to see his dad and the team came.
November 16th, 2011 8:58 AM
Where to start? That was the best episode ever - I was so moved by the scene with the body being taken off the plane - everyone was excellent last night - to the person who asked about Gibbs and Flores - she reached for and held his hand at the burial. I cannot stop watching this show and all of the reruns - on my TV constantly when I am home.
I too have expressed concern weekly about McGee - his voice was so frail last night - I wish someone would address our concerns about him.
November 16th, 2011 8:25 AM
I actually believe Gibbs meet Matteson before he meet Shannon. I think it goes to the point that Gibbs may be finally realizing that Shannon is not the only woman he could love. That he did love someone else, he just forgot about it until the situation with Flores.
November 16th, 2011 8:24 AM
ziva is one hot bad ass! I've never been so turned on by a woman in full battle gear as i have last night. Gawd this woman will be the end of me.
November 16th, 2011 3:32 AM
@Earth orbiter why would you think gibbs and flores would start seeing each other? i saw no evidence of that
November 16th, 2011 3:21 AM
Pretty good episode, actually. So now Gibbs is hooking up with Flores? Interesting... especially considering that she's about to be court-martialed for disobeying a direct order, which you'd think would be a huge no-no in Gibbs' book. That, and she's 30+ years younger than him.
I liked how that cute little girl went right in for the hug on Tony at the end. His type of woman.
And does anyone know what's up with Sean Murray? His voice seems higher and he almost looks "frail." I know he lost a lot of weight with diet and exercise over the past couple of years, but now he looks - and sounds - like he's ill. Anybody have any info about that?
November 15th, 2011 11:16 PM
AWESOME episode! One of my favorites. And, no, Gibbs is not headed for a breakdown. He's getting a little more reflective and may eventually open up a little more about his loss, but tonight actually confirmed for me that he's totally satisfied with the fact that his skills can make such a difference in peoples' lives. I think he sincerely meant it when he told Vance that what he does "IS fun". It's what he was meant to do with his life.
Tony is most definitely not the "goofy" Tony of a few years ago. He still has that off-the-wall wit, but is also shown as being very capable at his job. He has a lot of serious thoughts going on, but tends to mask them with zingers and one-liners. Michael Weatherly is really growing as an actor too. He conveys all these conflicting emotions and makes it look easy...it's not.
Despite a couple of duds in "Penelope's Papers" and "Thirst", I'm really loving how this season is going. I think next week's Sr. episode will be lighter, but that's
November 15th, 2011 10:17 PM
I know their bad guys but you have to admit what the brother and sister said about us was true also was Abby a little selfish and snorting today or what when will people learn nothing we complain is mundane things God listen to all our issue no matter how big or small.
Tony was Awesome in the Church can't believe he scare of spoil rotten brats, I would like to see what his REAL fear is, Also did Gibbs really almost cheat on Shannon is that why he feel so guilty.
November 15th, 2011 10:13 PM
I just have to say, that Gibbs just keeps getting better looking with age, nad has a smile to kill for. GO GET EM GIBBS.
November 15th, 2011 10:10 PM
I found this episode both intense and moving. Gibbs with those young girls was awesome. Ziva with her compassion and caring was wonderful. As the mother or a Marine, some of this episode was hard to watch, but I believe the scenes in Afganistan were about as real as it gets! Kudos to the Writers, Cast and Crew on this one.