SoapJunk Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 6:07 PM
I love that lola went all sherlock on chivy, she didn't scheme het but confronted her about it, and yes im totally loving nola
Anonymous
February 23rd, 2012 4:13 PM
@guyfan I guess it's because of the terrible writing and horrible storylines like the Louis/Royalty crap.
guyfan
February 23rd, 2012 4:07 PM
@DB I cant express how much I agree with you. WTH is wrong with people coming here complaining so hard about a show they didnt have to watch? Other people coming here trying to rally people to get it canceled?? I understand you liking the recent storyline but why the hell are you taking it so personal? Just use that little gadget called the remote and change the freakin channel! As for me I think the season is awesome so far and I hope they keep up the good work. There are some serious haters out there. SMH.
Anonymous
February 23rd, 2012 1:56 PM
@HAHAHA What monkey?
HAHAHA
February 23rd, 2012 11:50 AM
even nate and monkey have more chemistry than dan and blair?!?!?!?!?!?!?! FTW!!!!
Anonymous
February 23rd, 2012 10:47 AM
@Ace I'm just saying, Gossip Girl's repeats haven't exactly gone so well, especially in term of demos they've gotten 0.2s. Other shows have had better luck with syndication and attracting an audience/newcomers.
Actually those shows are much more successful and there's much more stability compared to Gossip Girl, The Vampire Diaries is the only show on the CW that can get over a 1.0 in demos, which is significant especially since it's on the CW, Supernatural does really well in DVD sales.
Gossip Girl has had buzz/hype/special treatment from the CW and it's still floundering, it's even worse this year even with disappointing results from the overhyped 100th episode.
There's a reason why the big networks haven't followed the CW's business model and that's because it doesn't work, the whole network is a joke and it's been declining ever since it started. It's the CW's own fault if they choose to continue to follow in Dawn Ostroff's incompetence.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:13 AM
@pty
I have some industry experience as I interned in production accounting for a bit before I settled into treasury.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:12 AM
@Anonymous
Eh, getting new viewers is hit or miss, hence why syndication happens. But since they will be syndicating the entire series, they stand a better chance at attracting new viewers or a different network on a different timeslot. 5 years ago since the pilot has been a long time in television standards, and in those 5 years, newer audiences continue to emerge: the first couple of seasons were actually decent, so it stands to argue that they can attain new demos in syndication.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:08 AM
@Anonymous
Even if it is desperate, it needed to happen. They were behind in new media, and they finally caught up. So, that was a decision that I actually support, though it was more studio execs closing that deal than the GG execs. It actually does more for their successful shows like Supernatural, Vampire Diaries, and Secret Circle.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:01 AM
oopies, clicked submit my accident..
Anyway, despite the writing being on the fly, their finances aren't. The costs aren't a surprise: they know how much they're spending before production actually happens.
And with high-tier designer ware, it's not as if the studio pays full retail price that Vera Wang charges. The studio negotiates for discounted pricing in exchange for on-air advertising.
bassoholic
February 23rd, 2012 9:56 AM
Crazy Blair deserves to end with Dan. Makes such an unattractive pair that no one cares. How exactly does GG evolve from the best show ever to the worst ? Worst. Ever.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 9:53 AM
@Anonymous
On-location shoots and name-brand designer wear can get expensive, but it's not as if those expenses come as a surprise. Budgets have to be pre-approved and planned out. Despite the writing being on the fly,
Anonymous
February 23rd, 2012 9:47 AM
@Chaz It is bad writing, even before Dair started: the whole dowry crap, the pact with God, etc. It's really awful storylines and it deserves its' terrible ratings/demos, even by the CW standards this is pathetic.
Chaz
February 23rd, 2012 8:03 AM
I don't thing GG is suffering from bad writing at the moment. Well, they may have pushed Dair too far and it really ruins Blair character. She married Louis, confesses her true love to Chuck but now accepting her feeling for Dan? GIRL, Get it together!
I love this episode since it's a bit "Serena-centric" episode and I have missed her. I love the confrontation of Ivy and the Van der Woodsens. I love Lola. And I love Ivy. Although I don't understand what's the point of Ivy calling Georgina? (And you'd think that Ivy carries that tissue around? CREEPY!)
Anyway, I'm enjoying GG. People need to calm down and just enjoy the show.
Anonymous
February 22nd, 2012 10:53 PM
@pty The 100th episode was pretty much a slap in the face with the terribly execute reveal of Georgina being the new Gossip Girl to the terribly, forced dialogue that Blair had with Louis and Chuck.
Louis: "I can't believe I'm getting married", Blair: "I love you, I can't possibly love you anymore than I do now", etc.
I'm only a bit familiar with the industry, the CW just has a terrible business model and the network has suffered due to poor decision making.
pty
February 22nd, 2012 8:44 PM
@ Anonymous: the 100th episode was so bad, that Jacob of TWOP who usually gives all the episodes an A+ grading for some ironic reason that I don't really know about, gave the 100th episode a D grade.
@ Ace and Anonymous: this is certainly an interesting and business-type oriented discussion you have going on, but where do you get all these facts? Do you guys work in the entertaiment industry?
Anonymous
February 22nd, 2012 7:39 PM
@Ace They're clearly not going to get any more potential viewers, especially with that disappointing 100th episode that was very overhyped and produced disappointing results considering the amount of PR effort that went into this series as opposed to other CW show, some of which has done better without any of the preferential treatment that Gossip Girl constantly receives and it has become the 2nd to last lowest rated show on the CW, which is sad and pathetic considering their network overall isn't doing well.
Anonymous
February 22nd, 2012 7:39 PM
@Ace It's a desperate act, the Hulu/Netflix is more of a temporary lifeline than a permanent solution. The CW needs all of the help it can get, it's in a very terrible state, the shows overall are doing worse each year. The production expenses are front loaded, however the show itself will become more expensive, where they filmed in Paris and in L.A. and they use designer clothes like Vera Wang, according to a preview, those are very expensive things, especially for a show that has greatly declined down to 0.5 in demos and 1 million viewers.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 22nd, 2012 6:49 PM
@Anonymous
The CW's streaming model was crap to begin with. The CW player took a week, if not more, to replay their episodes after airing, when most networks offer next-day availability, not to mention that the CW player's stability was next to nothing with constant buffering issues.
Getting on the Netflix/Hulu wagon was at least a decision that did make sense to increase bottom-line revenues while allowing their recently aired shows more exposure via Hulu. The Netflix deal allows for previous season watching by Netflix members which increases their demo beyond the Monday night CW consumer.
Ace Rank: Recurring Character
February 22nd, 2012 6:45 PM
@Anonymous
Most drama shows have all their costs front-loaded. They're in the red for most of their run until their 100th when they begin to break-even on costs. It's why most on-screen talent has contracts that last through 5-8 seasons to guarantee a return on the production studio and the network.
Salary increases over-time is built-in the show's overall running budget. Anything production accountant half their salt would know to account for expected increases, especially on-screet talent since it doesn't count as labor, so the costs are fixed into the contract on-screen talent signs.
Anonymous
February 22nd, 2012 2:39 PM
@Ace Shows become more expensive over time, especially salaries, expensive fashion/clothes, locations/sets, etc.
Other shows can sustain those expenses and have performed much better than Gossip Girl has.
Gossip Girl doesn't even do well in repeats with 0.2, being in the black doesn't mean a good thing for CW who had to rely on a temporary lifeline in Netflix/Hulu, but with the network as whole declining from a year to year basis, that can only take them so far.
Dair lover 2000
February 22nd, 2012 1:46 PM
So happy Dan is not silent anymore and that he expressed his love. Not since Eric's and Sookie's hook up on True blood have I been this excited.
Sara
February 22nd, 2012 1:42 PM
I agree with some of the posters, the way Dan and Blair look at each other looks so real. Not acted, not overly dramatic.
I also felt some joy thinking maybe Blair liked Dan already back last year when she hid from him in her bed for one week, to realise she loved Chuck, for 5 minutes, until he insulted Dan. Then she met the Prince again. And slept with Chuck (again, they were together for about 5 minutes). But maybe she already liked back Dan at that time, after their first kiss. It would be awesome if she told him something like that.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
February 24th, 2012 11:25 AM
@Ligaya Goodbye Gossip Girl for good.
February 24th, 2012 7:18 AM
Goodbye Gossip Girl >:)
Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 6:07 PM
I love that lola went all sherlock on chivy, she didn't scheme het but confronted her about it, and yes im totally loving nola
February 23rd, 2012 4:13 PM
@guyfan I guess it's because of the terrible writing and horrible storylines like the Louis/Royalty crap.
February 23rd, 2012 4:07 PM
@DB I cant express how much I agree with you. WTH is wrong with people coming here complaining so hard about a show they didnt have to watch? Other people coming here trying to rally people to get it canceled?? I understand you liking the recent storyline but why the hell are you taking it so personal? Just use that little gadget called the remote and change the freakin channel! As for me I think the season is awesome so far and I hope they keep up the good work. There are some serious haters out there. SMH.
February 23rd, 2012 1:56 PM
@HAHAHA What monkey?
February 23rd, 2012 11:50 AM
even nate and monkey have more chemistry than dan and blair?!?!?!?!?!?!?! FTW!!!!
February 23rd, 2012 10:47 AM
@Ace I'm just saying, Gossip Girl's repeats haven't exactly gone so well, especially in term of demos they've gotten 0.2s. Other shows have had better luck with syndication and attracting an audience/newcomers.
Actually those shows are much more successful and there's much more stability compared to Gossip Girl, The Vampire Diaries is the only show on the CW that can get over a 1.0 in demos, which is significant especially since it's on the CW, Supernatural does really well in DVD sales.
Gossip Girl has had buzz/hype/special treatment from the CW and it's still floundering, it's even worse this year even with disappointing results from the overhyped 100th episode.
There's a reason why the big networks haven't followed the CW's business model and that's because it doesn't work, the whole network is a joke and it's been declining ever since it started. It's the CW's own fault if they choose to continue to follow in Dawn Ostroff's incompetence.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:13 AM
@pty
I have some industry experience as I interned in production accounting for a bit before I settled into treasury.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:12 AM
@Anonymous
Eh, getting new viewers is hit or miss, hence why syndication happens. But since they will be syndicating the entire series, they stand a better chance at attracting new viewers or a different network on a different timeslot. 5 years ago since the pilot has been a long time in television standards, and in those 5 years, newer audiences continue to emerge: the first couple of seasons were actually decent, so it stands to argue that they can attain new demos in syndication.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:08 AM
@Anonymous
Even if it is desperate, it needed to happen. They were behind in new media, and they finally caught up. So, that was a decision that I actually support, though it was more studio execs closing that deal than the GG execs. It actually does more for their successful shows like Supernatural, Vampire Diaries, and Secret Circle.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 10:01 AM
oopies, clicked submit my accident..
Anyway, despite the writing being on the fly, their finances aren't. The costs aren't a surprise: they know how much they're spending before production actually happens.
And with high-tier designer ware, it's not as if the studio pays full retail price that Vera Wang charges. The studio negotiates for discounted pricing in exchange for on-air advertising.
February 23rd, 2012 9:56 AM
Crazy Blair deserves to end with Dan. Makes such an unattractive pair that no one cares. How exactly does GG evolve from the best show ever to the worst ? Worst. Ever.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 23rd, 2012 9:53 AM
@Anonymous
On-location shoots and name-brand designer wear can get expensive, but it's not as if those expenses come as a surprise. Budgets have to be pre-approved and planned out. Despite the writing being on the fly,
February 23rd, 2012 9:47 AM
@Chaz It is bad writing, even before Dair started: the whole dowry crap, the pact with God, etc. It's really awful storylines and it deserves its' terrible ratings/demos, even by the CW standards this is pathetic.
February 23rd, 2012 8:03 AM
I don't thing GG is suffering from bad writing at the moment. Well, they may have pushed Dair too far and it really ruins Blair character. She married Louis, confesses her true love to Chuck but now accepting her feeling for Dan? GIRL, Get it together!
I love this episode since it's a bit "Serena-centric" episode and I have missed her. I love the confrontation of Ivy and the Van der Woodsens. I love Lola. And I love Ivy. Although I don't understand what's the point of Ivy calling Georgina? (And you'd think that Ivy carries that tissue around? CREEPY!)
Anyway, I'm enjoying GG. People need to calm down and just enjoy the show.
February 22nd, 2012 10:53 PM
@pty The 100th episode was pretty much a slap in the face with the terribly execute reveal of Georgina being the new Gossip Girl to the terribly, forced dialogue that Blair had with Louis and Chuck.
Louis: "I can't believe I'm getting married", Blair: "I love you, I can't possibly love you anymore than I do now", etc.
I'm only a bit familiar with the industry, the CW just has a terrible business model and the network has suffered due to poor decision making.
February 22nd, 2012 8:44 PM
@ Anonymous: the 100th episode was so bad, that Jacob of TWOP who usually gives all the episodes an A+ grading for some ironic reason that I don't really know about, gave the 100th episode a D grade.
@ Ace and Anonymous: this is certainly an interesting and business-type oriented discussion you have going on, but where do you get all these facts? Do you guys work in the entertaiment industry?
February 22nd, 2012 7:39 PM
@Ace They're clearly not going to get any more potential viewers, especially with that disappointing 100th episode that was very overhyped and produced disappointing results considering the amount of PR effort that went into this series as opposed to other CW show, some of which has done better without any of the preferential treatment that Gossip Girl constantly receives and it has become the 2nd to last lowest rated show on the CW, which is sad and pathetic considering their network overall isn't doing well.
February 22nd, 2012 7:39 PM
@Ace It's a desperate act, the Hulu/Netflix is more of a temporary lifeline than a permanent solution. The CW needs all of the help it can get, it's in a very terrible state, the shows overall are doing worse each year. The production expenses are front loaded, however the show itself will become more expensive, where they filmed in Paris and in L.A. and they use designer clothes like Vera Wang, according to a preview, those are very expensive things, especially for a show that has greatly declined down to 0.5 in demos and 1 million viewers.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 22nd, 2012 6:49 PM
@Anonymous
The CW's streaming model was crap to begin with. The CW player took a week, if not more, to replay their episodes after airing, when most networks offer next-day availability, not to mention that the CW player's stability was next to nothing with constant buffering issues.
Getting on the Netflix/Hulu wagon was at least a decision that did make sense to increase bottom-line revenues while allowing their recently aired shows more exposure via Hulu. The Netflix deal allows for previous season watching by Netflix members which increases their demo beyond the Monday night CW consumer.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 22nd, 2012 6:45 PM
@Anonymous
Most drama shows have all their costs front-loaded. They're in the red for most of their run until their 100th when they begin to break-even on costs. It's why most on-screen talent has contracts that last through 5-8 seasons to guarantee a return on the production studio and the network.
Salary increases over-time is built-in the show's overall running budget. Anything production accountant half their salt would know to account for expected increases, especially on-screet talent since it doesn't count as labor, so the costs are fixed into the contract on-screen talent signs.
February 22nd, 2012 2:39 PM
@Ace Shows become more expensive over time, especially salaries, expensive fashion/clothes, locations/sets, etc.
Other shows can sustain those expenses and have performed much better than Gossip Girl has.
Gossip Girl doesn't even do well in repeats with 0.2, being in the black doesn't mean a good thing for CW who had to rely on a temporary lifeline in Netflix/Hulu, but with the network as whole declining from a year to year basis, that can only take them so far.
February 22nd, 2012 1:46 PM
So happy Dan is not silent anymore and that he expressed his love. Not since Eric's and Sookie's hook up on True blood have I been this excited.
February 22nd, 2012 1:42 PM
I agree with some of the posters, the way Dan and Blair look at each other looks so real. Not acted, not overly dramatic.
I also felt some joy thinking maybe Blair liked Dan already back last year when she hid from him in her bed for one week, to realise she loved Chuck, for 5 minutes, until he insulted Dan. Then she met the Prince again. And slept with Chuck (again, they were together for about 5 minutes). But maybe she already liked back Dan at that time, after their first kiss. It would be awesome if she told him something like that.