serena did always "falls in love" with every guy she meets but at the end of it all she always comes back to loving dan which i think proves that it has always been dan. plus, she's always been a better person when she was with dan.
but honestly, i much rather see serena single, happy and successful instead of pining over dan.
Anonymous
February 14th, 2012 5:09 PM
@kris That's because she constantly 'falls in love' with pretty much every 'nice' guy she meets, while constantly leading Dan or sometimes Nate on.
@Regina Phalange and @Tartila She had her chance and it just didn't happen or work out that way.
@gemsiibear What Dan did doesn't even come close to the things the writers made Chuck's character do like selling Blair out to a hotel or almost punching/forcing himself on Blair when he was drunk last season after he humiliated her in front of the Royals.
kris
February 14th, 2012 5:03 PM
and for those saying that S dangles a lot of boys in front of dan when they are not dating its not like dan is innocent as well in season 2 after their 2nd break-up dan sorta dated this amanda girl on the first day after their break-up (classy move lonely boy..sarcasm), dated the teacher, dated olivia, vanessa, almost had sex with chivy and almost hook-up with a girl in nyu.
so let us not bash S as if all her deeds were wrong because dan also has his fair share of wrong doings.
kris
February 14th, 2012 4:57 PM
cont..
now put your self in Serena's shoes wouldn't you be mad if you saw your bff kiss the guy you love in front of you?
also, its not about dair can be together coz derena is not dating. blair is married albeit a loveless marriage but still married. at least when nate and serena slept together its only cheating whereas blair kissing dan its more grave cause its adultery.
kris
February 14th, 2012 4:53 PM
@ everyone who's always bringing up the serena and nate sleeping together card.
yes its true that they did sleep together when nate was with blair but again they were 16 and drunk and blair has every right to be mad w/ S in fact she did made S's life miserable she shun her from their friends, tell all the colleges that she has drug problem even if she don't have one. plus, she went away because she thought she killed a guy.
Now, i think S has every right to be mad even if dan and her isn't together. why? because blair is aware of that serena love dan. playing cupid and leading her to believe that dan still has feelings for S is plain wrong then kissing him.
Tartila
February 14th, 2012 4:00 PM
Let's arrange a meetting with the producers to deliver us all the spares of the scenes, it's all so tasty!!! xD
This show has a lot more to offer with all this messy storyline, focus only in the opportunities, put you viewpoints aside and just enjoy the show and live your lifes on the edge.
@Uncle Jackass
You're right. Only the problem isn't people not changing their viewpoints, the problem is people insulting viewpoints that they don't share... I have my own "teams" but that doesn't prevent me from enjoying storylines that are not the ones I wish to see! (Dair, for example)
In unrelated news, great nickname!
@Anonymous
Yeah, that is why even though I like Derena, I think their relationship is really forced now. This would be their fourth reunion... that number ought to say sth.
@Tartila
That's true. She did take her time to choose between him and Nate as if she was choosing between ice-cream flavours...
gemsiibear
February 14th, 2012 3:38 PM
@raven i'm talking about now yeah chucks done worse things but thats in the past and after a few episodes to come so is the shit dan has and it will just be another pointless storyline, yea chucks been a dick serenas been a slut and a bitch, but right now dan and blair are the ones been a little insensitive and blairs messin with chucks feelings she needs to fuckin choose what a whore new serena much. i like dan or i did but i will probably like him again in epiodes to come when he starts to be straight about his feelings and stops just thinking about himself an hurting the people around him same goes for blair
Tartila
February 14th, 2012 3:32 PM
I think now it's time to Serena taste something that she gave to eat to Dan, with all love affairs she had in previous sessions, and suddendly she brings the "always will love you". Don't expect Dan to put authentic feeelings apart at this moment.
Anonymous
February 14th, 2012 3:31 PM
@gemsiibear Blair already suspected Chuck when the blast came out.
@gigi93 Then why are you so worked up about it?
Anonymous
February 14th, 2012 3:30 PM
@Regina Phalange It's also very self-destructive, her relationship with Nate wasn't this bad.
The problem is that these problems are self created.
There would be no reason for Dan to suddenly fall in love with Serena, or why Serena is even pursuing her own step brother at this point, it's not worth it at all.
gemsiibear
February 14th, 2012 3:30 PM
@anonymous maybe she did but dan did tell blair that chuck sent the gossip girl blast in order for blair to not be able to trust chuck, then lied to serena by saying he wasnt with blair when he was in 5x14. but i i dont even care anymore, just going to watch the show and see what more not shocking predictable storylines there going to pull out of the bag.
Let's be honest for a second guys, and Dair fans open your eyes.
In the end Blair and Chuck will be back together I'm guessing she will beg for him back, and her whole Dan crap, will be explained by the following:
that she was distracting herself with Dan as if she got close to Chuch their love would not be able to be dismissed, lalalalallalalalalalalla.
Yeah, S & B's friendship sucks! As you said, they've backstabbed each other more times than I can count... but friendships in the UES are always kind of special. There's a reason for the nickname "the non-judging breakfast club". If they had some kind of self-criticism, they would all have parted ways loooong ago!
@Tartila
I don't see how this can turn Dan to Serena... I'd like them together too, but the show doesn't seem to be taking that path! And totally. I want all the food on that table. It was probably not eaten. What a waste.
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2012 3:23 PM
I'm leaning towards Occam's razor (lex parsimoniae) in this case. I.e. if you wanted Dair in the first place, then you'd be cheering despite evidence to the contrary that it won't last long. If you were a Chair fan, you'd think everything in this series is bad writing and just give up watching. If you were a Derena fan, you'd think the last episode was a nail in the coffin. And if Blerena ever existed then there has been a betrayal.
What's the point in arguing with people that won't change their minds or viewpoint?
Raven
February 14th, 2012 3:23 PM
@gemsibear. 'All the things Dans done???'. Really??? As compared to Chuck? Dan may have sent the blast but arguably he wouldn't have been the one to benefit from that if Blair had gone running to Chuck after she just announced she would always love him! I think Dan has Blairs best interests at heart.
Also Blair being a bitch to Serena? I genuinely don't think Blair planned to be kissing Dan. I think the most telling scene is where Blair is reeling off the litany of Dan's friendship to her and then you can almost see the penny drop for her. I think this was the point things changed.
gemsiibear
February 14th, 2012 3:21 PM
@tre absolutely agree with everything you said. btw skankville B love it!!
Anonymous
February 14th, 2012 3:17 PM
@Tartila They don't really deserve to be together, Serena should go after someone without pining over them.
@gemsiibear Blair turned to him, while shutting out everyone else out for her own issues that she caused in the 1st place.
Leave it to the writers to ruin the characters.
gemsiibear
February 14th, 2012 3:16 PM
@anonymous exactly my point their friendship is TOTALLY ruined now, more than it was, saying that so are the characters and the show, but i maintain to watch in hope of a chair reunion:)
Pat
February 14th, 2012 3:16 PM
I think the biggest problem with the show isn't really about people's ships. Because when I was a kid and I watched Felicity I always wanted her with Noel but the way the wrote the characters and the respect they gave the characters its was okay with me that she ended with Ben.
I think fans will handle disappointment if it feels like there is a purpose. But for example I still don't understand the point of Scott, Lily's "cancer" storyline or her being under house arrest, Blair being pregnant; all these storylines were drop or handled ineffectually. Its frustrating!
You're right. After 5 seasons, the writers have to come up with new storylines, because otherwise it would be boring. However, as we can take from all the info out there (ie contracts ending), the show will go no further than a 6th season. It is possible that the writers are keeping that in mind, and so they will try to develop Dair as much as they can in what's left of season 5, to reunite Chair in season 6. The problem with this (if it happens to be true, which I obviously don't know for sure) is that many people are afraid that Chair will be reunited in a completely "forced" way, something similar to what happened with the Derena storyline, a couple that some people wanted to see get back together, but I think most of us agree that Serena's "I love you" to Dan came out of nowhere.
And I also agree that most people who are invested on this show tend to take sides as if it was a (virtual) war. TV shows' storylines cannot and will never make everybody happy.
Tre
February 14th, 2012 3:13 PM
If only it made sense! We can assume Blair didn't know about her "feelings" until she was sexing up Humphrey at the party (the tie thing), but by that point shouldn't she have stopped trying to get Dan with Serena? Skankville, B. Loved Serena comparing her to a multiple-personality schizo, because it's the only thing that makes sense. (Not just for last night's episode, but since she was screwing Chuck in S4 while Louis was waiting.)
Serena should be the star of the show again (look at the ratings, heh); she could pull off 3 guys in love with her, because she was always loyal to just one and classy about it. Guys wanted her because she was happy, not because she needed to be 'saved', and Serena could respect herself. Those Serena stories made sense.
Tartila
February 14th, 2012 3:11 PM
What a waste, i would give almost everything to eat a portion of the food spread around the table! Please I really hope the all situation turno to Dan and Serena.
gemsiibear
February 14th, 2012 3:11 PM
chuck and serena should just have a fake relationship, cos i could bet a million both dan and blair especially would freak out. blair doesnt deserve anything right now serenas friendship, chuck. i hope she does end up alone same as dan cos dan will go to all lengths to make sure blair ends up with him and only him he doesnt care who blair loses along the way, or who he hurts hes so selfish this is not the dan i liked. yes i do like dan even if i dont like dair even though i enjoy their friendship alot, but dan only seems like such an amazin an supportive friend/guy to blair through his manipulation and lies that got blair to believe she only had him to turn. i feel sorry for dair fasns cos you know the writers are just going to reveal everything dans done and more things to come and blair will turn on him an that will be yet another relationship+friendship wasted.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
February 14th, 2012 5:15 PM
serena did always "falls in love" with every guy she meets but at the end of it all she always comes back to loving dan which i think proves that it has always been dan. plus, she's always been a better person when she was with dan.
but honestly, i much rather see serena single, happy and successful instead of pining over dan.
February 14th, 2012 5:09 PM
@kris That's because she constantly 'falls in love' with pretty much every 'nice' guy she meets, while constantly leading Dan or sometimes Nate on.
@Regina Phalange and @Tartila She had her chance and it just didn't happen or work out that way.
@gemsiibear What Dan did doesn't even come close to the things the writers made Chuck's character do like selling Blair out to a hotel or almost punching/forcing himself on Blair when he was drunk last season after he humiliated her in front of the Royals.
February 14th, 2012 5:03 PM
and for those saying that S dangles a lot of boys in front of dan when they are not dating its not like dan is innocent as well in season 2 after their 2nd break-up dan sorta dated this amanda girl on the first day after their break-up (classy move lonely boy..sarcasm), dated the teacher, dated olivia, vanessa, almost had sex with chivy and almost hook-up with a girl in nyu.
so let us not bash S as if all her deeds were wrong because dan also has his fair share of wrong doings.
February 14th, 2012 4:57 PM
cont..
now put your self in Serena's shoes wouldn't you be mad if you saw your bff kiss the guy you love in front of you?
also, its not about dair can be together coz derena is not dating. blair is married albeit a loveless marriage but still married. at least when nate and serena slept together its only cheating whereas blair kissing dan its more grave cause its adultery.
February 14th, 2012 4:53 PM
@ everyone who's always bringing up the serena and nate sleeping together card.
yes its true that they did sleep together when nate was with blair but again they were 16 and drunk and blair has every right to be mad w/ S in fact she did made S's life miserable she shun her from their friends, tell all the colleges that she has drug problem even if she don't have one. plus, she went away because she thought she killed a guy.
Now, i think S has every right to be mad even if dan and her isn't together. why? because blair is aware of that serena love dan. playing cupid and leading her to believe that dan still has feelings for S is plain wrong then kissing him.
February 14th, 2012 4:00 PM
Let's arrange a meetting with the producers to deliver us all the spares of the scenes, it's all so tasty!!! xD
This show has a lot more to offer with all this messy storyline, focus only in the opportunities, put you viewpoints aside and just enjoy the show and live your lifes on the edge.
Rank: Extra
February 14th, 2012 3:40 PM
@Uncle Jackass
You're right. Only the problem isn't people not changing their viewpoints, the problem is people insulting viewpoints that they don't share... I have my own "teams" but that doesn't prevent me from enjoying storylines that are not the ones I wish to see! (Dair, for example)
In unrelated news, great nickname!
@Anonymous
Yeah, that is why even though I like Derena, I think their relationship is really forced now. This would be their fourth reunion... that number ought to say sth.
@Tartila
That's true. She did take her time to choose between him and Nate as if she was choosing between ice-cream flavours...
February 14th, 2012 3:38 PM
@raven i'm talking about now yeah chucks done worse things but thats in the past and after a few episodes to come so is the shit dan has and it will just be another pointless storyline, yea chucks been a dick serenas been a slut and a bitch, but right now dan and blair are the ones been a little insensitive and blairs messin with chucks feelings she needs to fuckin choose what a whore new serena much. i like dan or i did but i will probably like him again in epiodes to come when he starts to be straight about his feelings and stops just thinking about himself an hurting the people around him same goes for blair
February 14th, 2012 3:32 PM
I think now it's time to Serena taste something that she gave to eat to Dan, with all love affairs she had in previous sessions, and suddendly she brings the "always will love you". Don't expect Dan to put authentic feeelings apart at this moment.
February 14th, 2012 3:31 PM
@gemsiibear Blair already suspected Chuck when the blast came out.
@gigi93 Then why are you so worked up about it?
February 14th, 2012 3:30 PM
@Regina Phalange It's also very self-destructive, her relationship with Nate wasn't this bad.
The problem is that these problems are self created.
There would be no reason for Dan to suddenly fall in love with Serena, or why Serena is even pursuing her own step brother at this point, it's not worth it at all.
February 14th, 2012 3:30 PM
@anonymous maybe she did but dan did tell blair that chuck sent the gossip girl blast in order for blair to not be able to trust chuck, then lied to serena by saying he wasnt with blair when he was in 5x14. but i i dont even care anymore, just going to watch the show and see what more not shocking predictable storylines there going to pull out of the bag.
Rank: New User
February 14th, 2012 3:29 PM
Let's be honest for a second guys, and Dair fans open your eyes.
In the end Blair and Chuck will be back together I'm guessing she will beg for him back, and her whole Dan crap, will be explained by the following:
that she was distracting herself with Dan as if she got close to Chuch their love would not be able to be dismissed, lalalalallalalalalalalla.
February 14th, 2012 3:27 PM
@Uncle Jackass Or maybe the writers just suck.
Rank: Extra
February 14th, 2012 3:27 PM
@Anonymous
Yeah, S & B's friendship sucks! As you said, they've backstabbed each other more times than I can count... but friendships in the UES are always kind of special. There's a reason for the nickname "the non-judging breakfast club". If they had some kind of self-criticism, they would all have parted ways loooong ago!
@Tartila
I don't see how this can turn Dan to Serena... I'd like them together too, but the show doesn't seem to be taking that path! And totally. I want all the food on that table. It was probably not eaten. What a waste.
Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2012 3:23 PM
I'm leaning towards Occam's razor (lex parsimoniae) in this case. I.e. if you wanted Dair in the first place, then you'd be cheering despite evidence to the contrary that it won't last long. If you were a Chair fan, you'd think everything in this series is bad writing and just give up watching. If you were a Derena fan, you'd think the last episode was a nail in the coffin. And if Blerena ever existed then there has been a betrayal.
What's the point in arguing with people that won't change their minds or viewpoint?
February 14th, 2012 3:23 PM
@gemsibear. 'All the things Dans done???'. Really??? As compared to Chuck? Dan may have sent the blast but arguably he wouldn't have been the one to benefit from that if Blair had gone running to Chuck after she just announced she would always love him! I think Dan has Blairs best interests at heart.
Also Blair being a bitch to Serena? I genuinely don't think Blair planned to be kissing Dan. I think the most telling scene is where Blair is reeling off the litany of Dan's friendship to her and then you can almost see the penny drop for her. I think this was the point things changed.
February 14th, 2012 3:21 PM
@tre absolutely agree with everything you said. btw skankville B love it!!
February 14th, 2012 3:17 PM
@Tartila They don't really deserve to be together, Serena should go after someone without pining over them.
@gemsiibear Blair turned to him, while shutting out everyone else out for her own issues that she caused in the 1st place.
Leave it to the writers to ruin the characters.
February 14th, 2012 3:16 PM
@anonymous exactly my point their friendship is TOTALLY ruined now, more than it was, saying that so are the characters and the show, but i maintain to watch in hope of a chair reunion:)
February 14th, 2012 3:16 PM
I think the biggest problem with the show isn't really about people's ships. Because when I was a kid and I watched Felicity I always wanted her with Noel but the way the wrote the characters and the respect they gave the characters its was okay with me that she ended with Ben.
I think fans will handle disappointment if it feels like there is a purpose. But for example I still don't understand the point of Scott, Lily's "cancer" storyline or her being under house arrest, Blair being pregnant; all these storylines were drop or handled ineffectually. Its frustrating!
Rank: Extra
February 14th, 2012 3:16 PM
@Candy
You're right. After 5 seasons, the writers have to come up with new storylines, because otherwise it would be boring. However, as we can take from all the info out there (ie contracts ending), the show will go no further than a 6th season. It is possible that the writers are keeping that in mind, and so they will try to develop Dair as much as they can in what's left of season 5, to reunite Chair in season 6. The problem with this (if it happens to be true, which I obviously don't know for sure) is that many people are afraid that Chair will be reunited in a completely "forced" way, something similar to what happened with the Derena storyline, a couple that some people wanted to see get back together, but I think most of us agree that Serena's "I love you" to Dan came out of nowhere.
And I also agree that most people who are invested on this show tend to take sides as if it was a (virtual) war. TV shows' storylines cannot and will never make everybody happy.
February 14th, 2012 3:13 PM
If only it made sense! We can assume Blair didn't know about her "feelings" until she was sexing up Humphrey at the party (the tie thing), but by that point shouldn't she have stopped trying to get Dan with Serena? Skankville, B. Loved Serena comparing her to a multiple-personality schizo, because it's the only thing that makes sense. (Not just for last night's episode, but since she was screwing Chuck in S4 while Louis was waiting.)
Serena should be the star of the show again (look at the ratings, heh); she could pull off 3 guys in love with her, because she was always loyal to just one and classy about it. Guys wanted her because she was happy, not because she needed to be 'saved', and Serena could respect herself. Those Serena stories made sense.
February 14th, 2012 3:11 PM
What a waste, i would give almost everything to eat a portion of the food spread around the table! Please I really hope the all situation turno to Dan and Serena.
February 14th, 2012 3:11 PM
chuck and serena should just have a fake relationship, cos i could bet a million both dan and blair especially would freak out. blair doesnt deserve anything right now serenas friendship, chuck. i hope she does end up alone same as dan cos dan will go to all lengths to make sure blair ends up with him and only him he doesnt care who blair loses along the way, or who he hurts hes so selfish this is not the dan i liked. yes i do like dan even if i dont like dair even though i enjoy their friendship alot, but dan only seems like such an amazin an supportive friend/guy to blair through his manipulation and lies that got blair to believe she only had him to turn. i feel sorry for dair fasns cos you know the writers are just going to reveal everything dans done and more things to come and blair will turn on him an that will be yet another relationship+friendship wasted.