I don't understand why everyone's so angry at Kate. Yes, she lied... But so did he. It's obvious to everyone that she's in love with him and he already knows she has issues. She said as much during the 1st episode of season 4, that she wasn't ready for a ready for a relationship until she got over the past.
He knows her, so how does he not understand that she's just scared. He should have confronted her about it so he knew for sure how she felt before he moved on. And flaunting that new girl in front of her was just harsh. He did it to intentionally hurt her. It's the way Castle's acting now that infuriates me. How is she meant to tell him she loves him when he's acting like that.
I think the writers have written it very well. It makes me want to watch and clearly gets people talking. I'm just frustrated that there's no new episodes for two weeks! lol. OMG! I just realised how obsessed I am. I'm sure this is bad lol.
Tom
April 3rd, 2012 7:52 AM
After last night, if I NEVER see another Castle, that will be fine with me.
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 7:32 AM
It's one thing to tiptoe around a man that you're in love with, if you're not sure he loves you. But when you KNOW it, it's obvious, and you're still playing around - you're an idiot. I love this show, but I hate that Kate has become such a caricature of what she used to be. She's not sympathetic anymore, now she's just a coward.
And if this ends with them in a closed room forced to talk, I'm going to have an aneurysm.
Writers, please, come back to me...I want to trust you, but give me something to work with, please...
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 7:29 AM
I found this episode absolutely infuriating. I mean - my heart was racing, I was so mad. While the dance that they're doing was realistic (I know plenty of grown adults who act just as nutty), it didn't make it any less annoying.
Seriously - I just wanted to slap Kate over and over again. How could Beckett POSSIBLY think that Castle hasn't changed, when it's even obvious to Lanie?!? Isn't she a bloody detective? Before tonight, Castle hadn't dated a bimbo since season 1, and his last relationship was with his ex-wife...the man was on the Most Eligible Bachelor's List! If he WANTED bimbos, he could have them.
And as for Rick Castle - while I'm STILL on his side and think Beckett's a moron, showing evidence to your date? What were you thinking? And how can you NOT see the problem with that?
It's one thing to tiptoe around a man that you're in love with, if you're not sure he loves you. But when you KNOW it, it's obvious, and you're still playing around - you're an idiot. I do
Brett Tucker (Colin Hunt) is Australian and he cannot do a British accent. If he had gone to a good school, as he said, he wouldn't have ended up speaking the way he does. Apart from that though, loved the episode and I cannot believe there isn't another one until the 16th of April. Agh! I'm in the UK watching this on iTunes so at least I get to see current episodes but we are months behind on British TV with this series so it's expensive and the waiting is terrible! (BTW - you don't have a Deputy General - or at least not in the days I worked for these people - possibly Deputy Consul General though.)
I don't mind the will they or wont they arc and I understand why Castle has been acting this way.
What really need to happen is for both of them to be locked in a room together but really Beckett brought it on herself. She hasn't been open to him at all and she is in danger of losing him.
I usually like everything that Castle serves but I just couldn't make myself like this episode. The case was meh and it lacked the usual chemistry of the three detectives and the writer. Hope they come back on track with next one.
i have never been so angry or frustrated after an episode of castle before.
it was an exciting episode, dont get me wrong. but boy did it push my buttons!
the situation with the two of them is bad enough with just one secret out, once both secrets are out i have a feeling it will get even worse. :(
Mike S.
April 3rd, 2012 3:17 AM
Well this is what I think needs to happen. Castle gets hurt badly somehow and Beckett comes to the hospital while he is unconscious and by his bedside tells him that she is sorry for not telling him that she loves him. This episode again let us down when the Brett Tucker character tried to move in on Beckett and in the end she calls him up and ask "do you still want to buy me that drink". She should of ran to the elevator and said wait, please wait and told him then. Mind games the characters are playing are like two 12 years olds. Physical maturity to extent but emotional roller coaster. I guess there is about 4 episodes left until the end of the season. But there might not be a 5th season because we cannot stand the pain anymore. The Love Crime needs to be solved. Maybe Alexis could show Beckett a letter Castle wrote but never sent her and tell her how he worries about her and here job. Oh well its only TV but time is running out for the viewers.
Tyler
April 3rd, 2012 3:00 AM
@Maka
100% agreed.
Take castle away and they'd never solve any cases.
Maka
April 3rd, 2012 2:45 AM
If it takes the guy leaving for the girl to stop stringing him along, then good friggin riddance.
These grown adults in their thirties/forties are acting like spiteful teenagers. God, where is the respect for these characters in the writer's room?
eridapo
April 3rd, 2012 2:33 AM
Why are people surprised. Castle believes she doesn't love him, and she is not doing anything to prove him wrong. Lanie told her straight out, but she refuses to see it.
The kicker is that she loves him, but she wont do anything about it until it becomes crystal clear that she is losing him. That is what next week is all about. Slaughter is Castle's new muse. He is cutting all ties with her, and she has been too blind to see it. She assumed that he would always be around and that she had the luxury of time to make up her mind. She doesn't.
Unlike the other commentators here, I love this arc. It is what both Castle and Beckett needed after the holding pattern they been on for the last year. The pattern had to end one way or another. It just happens that at this moment it is not ending in the way we want. However, I think those who think this will carry on to next season are wrong. It is clear that in the next episode Kate will realize why Rick is pulling away, and Ri
AG
April 3rd, 2012 2:21 AM
I've been a huge Castle fan since a friend turned me onto the show during its first season. That being said, I don't know how many more of these "will they/won't they" episodes I can take. I wish the writers would wither have them get together already or be rid of this never-ending tension. Either way, it's just getting to be annoying -mainly because it's been going on for four seasons now, but also because we know that whatever the result, there's bound to be another plot line that's drug out far too long with the case of Beckett's mother and the information Castle has been hiding.
I have never understood why writers beat storylines into the ground (the sexual tension, Beckett's mother's case, etc.) when they're clearly capable of fantastic writing and moving on. I love the show, but I'm not sure how much longer that will last.
Maka
April 3rd, 2012 1:52 AM
Most childish, immature relationship between two grown-arsed adults ever?
Yeah, definitely.
Marlowe and co., real people don't behave this way.
And for the love of god, Castle is a writer, not a cop. He was good when he added value to the squad because he was able to think outside of the box and match crazy cases with his crazy imagination. Now? Might as well swear him in and let go of the entire rest of the friggin NYPD, because he's apparently Sherlock freakin' Holmes.
Madz
April 3rd, 2012 1:32 AM
I am just hoping for the best .. as finale titles says, "Always" .. My hopes are raised for Caskett ..
David
April 3rd, 2012 12:56 AM
At first view.. Not particularly a great episode
it's fairly obvious that Kate is looking for any excuse NOT to get involved with Castle, so give her what she wants. I was kinda glad that Castle was actually moving on and you don't date crazy or damaged it's a well established rule.
They will stretch this out into next season with the cliffhanger being, "will they, won't they" stuff.
The less of gate the better, non existent would be preferred.
You can exchange all the sexy looks possible but unless it results to something like intimate touch or regular kissing then it just fades away.
Lanie nailed it, he's sick of waiting. I would have moved on 3 years ago.
I would have enjoyed the episode alot more if it wasn't for Brett Tucker. Yes he's hot but the accent was appalling, it had me muting all the scenes he was in which unfortuantly was most of the episode.
Seriously casting people can you make sure that the actors you get can actually sound British or Scotish, whatever he was susposed to be. It just ruined an episode I was totally looking forward to
Pablo Garcia Coutino
April 3rd, 2012 12:01 AM
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Pablo Garcia Coutino
April 2nd, 2012 11:58 PM
I don´t think it was solid. The dancing was so bad, no grace, no charm, completely forced..didn´t like it at all.
Beckett grabs the card case with her hands and finger prints all over the place...and she was supposed to get finger prints off of that?? :(
It´s bad enough when Castle is smarter than the whole precinct, FBI and Homeland Security put together
Sa'ad702 Rank: Regular Character
April 2nd, 2012 11:40 PM
Lanie has always been a Caskett fan... I do miss Martha and Alexis...
Castle: You guys get this a lot? Agent J…Agent K?
Rank: New User
April 3rd, 2012 8:37 AM
I don't understand why everyone's so angry at Kate. Yes, she lied... But so did he. It's obvious to everyone that she's in love with him and he already knows she has issues. She said as much during the 1st episode of season 4, that she wasn't ready for a ready for a relationship until she got over the past.
He knows her, so how does he not understand that she's just scared. He should have confronted her about it so he knew for sure how she felt before he moved on. And flaunting that new girl in front of her was just harsh. He did it to intentionally hurt her. It's the way Castle's acting now that infuriates me. How is she meant to tell him she loves him when he's acting like that.
I think the writers have written it very well. It makes me want to watch and clearly gets people talking. I'm just frustrated that there's no new episodes for two weeks! lol. OMG! I just realised how obsessed I am. I'm sure this is bad lol.
April 3rd, 2012 7:52 AM
After last night, if I NEVER see another Castle, that will be fine with me.
Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 7:32 AM
It's one thing to tiptoe around a man that you're in love with, if you're not sure he loves you. But when you KNOW it, it's obvious, and you're still playing around - you're an idiot. I love this show, but I hate that Kate has become such a caricature of what she used to be. She's not sympathetic anymore, now she's just a coward.
And if this ends with them in a closed room forced to talk, I'm going to have an aneurysm.
Writers, please, come back to me...I want to trust you, but give me something to work with, please...
Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 7:29 AM
I found this episode absolutely infuriating. I mean - my heart was racing, I was so mad. While the dance that they're doing was realistic (I know plenty of grown adults who act just as nutty), it didn't make it any less annoying.
Seriously - I just wanted to slap Kate over and over again. How could Beckett POSSIBLY think that Castle hasn't changed, when it's even obvious to Lanie?!? Isn't she a bloody detective? Before tonight, Castle hadn't dated a bimbo since season 1, and his last relationship was with his ex-wife...the man was on the Most Eligible Bachelor's List! If he WANTED bimbos, he could have them.
And as for Rick Castle - while I'm STILL on his side and think Beckett's a moron, showing evidence to your date? What were you thinking? And how can you NOT see the problem with that?
It's one thing to tiptoe around a man that you're in love with, if you're not sure he loves you. But when you KNOW it, it's obvious, and you're still playing around - you're an idiot. I do
Rank: Extra
April 3rd, 2012 6:31 AM
Brett Tucker (Colin Hunt) is Australian and he cannot do a British accent. If he had gone to a good school, as he said, he wouldn't have ended up speaking the way he does. Apart from that though, loved the episode and I cannot believe there isn't another one until the 16th of April. Agh! I'm in the UK watching this on iTunes so at least I get to see current episodes but we are months behind on British TV with this series so it's expensive and the waiting is terrible! (BTW - you don't have a Deputy General - or at least not in the days I worked for these people - possibly Deputy Consul General though.)
Rank: Extra
April 3rd, 2012 4:57 AM
I don't mind the will they or wont they arc and I understand why Castle has been acting this way.
What really need to happen is for both of them to be locked in a room together but really Beckett brought it on herself. She hasn't been open to him at all and she is in danger of losing him.
Rank: Guest Star
April 3rd, 2012 4:38 AM
I usually like everything that Castle serves but I just couldn't make myself like this episode. The case was meh and it lacked the usual chemistry of the three detectives and the writer. Hope they come back on track with next one.
Rank: Extra
April 3rd, 2012 4:10 AM
i have never been so angry or frustrated after an episode of castle before.
it was an exciting episode, dont get me wrong. but boy did it push my buttons!
the situation with the two of them is bad enough with just one secret out, once both secrets are out i have a feeling it will get even worse. :(
April 3rd, 2012 3:17 AM
Well this is what I think needs to happen. Castle gets hurt badly somehow and Beckett comes to the hospital while he is unconscious and by his bedside tells him that she is sorry for not telling him that she loves him. This episode again let us down when the Brett Tucker character tried to move in on Beckett and in the end she calls him up and ask "do you still want to buy me that drink". She should of ran to the elevator and said wait, please wait and told him then. Mind games the characters are playing are like two 12 years olds. Physical maturity to extent but emotional roller coaster. I guess there is about 4 episodes left until the end of the season. But there might not be a 5th season because we cannot stand the pain anymore. The Love Crime needs to be solved. Maybe Alexis could show Beckett a letter Castle wrote but never sent her and tell her how he worries about her and here job. Oh well its only TV but time is running out for the viewers.
April 3rd, 2012 3:00 AM
@Maka
100% agreed.
Take castle away and they'd never solve any cases.
April 3rd, 2012 2:45 AM
If it takes the guy leaving for the girl to stop stringing him along, then good friggin riddance.
These grown adults in their thirties/forties are acting like spiteful teenagers. God, where is the respect for these characters in the writer's room?
April 3rd, 2012 2:33 AM
Why are people surprised. Castle believes she doesn't love him, and she is not doing anything to prove him wrong. Lanie told her straight out, but she refuses to see it.
The kicker is that she loves him, but she wont do anything about it until it becomes crystal clear that she is losing him. That is what next week is all about. Slaughter is Castle's new muse. He is cutting all ties with her, and she has been too blind to see it. She assumed that he would always be around and that she had the luxury of time to make up her mind. She doesn't.
Unlike the other commentators here, I love this arc. It is what both Castle and Beckett needed after the holding pattern they been on for the last year. The pattern had to end one way or another. It just happens that at this moment it is not ending in the way we want. However, I think those who think this will carry on to next season are wrong. It is clear that in the next episode Kate will realize why Rick is pulling away, and Ri
April 3rd, 2012 2:21 AM
I've been a huge Castle fan since a friend turned me onto the show during its first season. That being said, I don't know how many more of these "will they/won't they" episodes I can take. I wish the writers would wither have them get together already or be rid of this never-ending tension. Either way, it's just getting to be annoying -mainly because it's been going on for four seasons now, but also because we know that whatever the result, there's bound to be another plot line that's drug out far too long with the case of Beckett's mother and the information Castle has been hiding.
I have never understood why writers beat storylines into the ground (the sexual tension, Beckett's mother's case, etc.) when they're clearly capable of fantastic writing and moving on. I love the show, but I'm not sure how much longer that will last.
April 3rd, 2012 1:52 AM
Most childish, immature relationship between two grown-arsed adults ever?
Yeah, definitely.
Marlowe and co., real people don't behave this way.
And for the love of god, Castle is a writer, not a cop. He was good when he added value to the squad because he was able to think outside of the box and match crazy cases with his crazy imagination. Now? Might as well swear him in and let go of the entire rest of the friggin NYPD, because he's apparently Sherlock freakin' Holmes.
April 3rd, 2012 1:32 AM
I am just hoping for the best .. as finale titles says, "Always" .. My hopes are raised for Caskett ..
April 3rd, 2012 12:56 AM
At first view.. Not particularly a great episode
it's fairly obvious that Kate is looking for any excuse NOT to get involved with Castle, so give her what she wants. I was kinda glad that Castle was actually moving on and you don't date crazy or damaged it's a well established rule.
They will stretch this out into next season with the cliffhanger being, "will they, won't they" stuff.
The less of gate the better, non existent would be preferred.
You can exchange all the sexy looks possible but unless it results to something like intimate touch or regular kissing then it just fades away.
Lanie nailed it, he's sick of waiting. I would have moved on 3 years ago.
Rank: Extra
April 3rd, 2012 12:33 AM
I would have enjoyed the episode alot more if it wasn't for Brett Tucker. Yes he's hot but the accent was appalling, it had me muting all the scenes he was in which unfortuantly was most of the episode.
Seriously casting people can you make sure that the actors you get can actually sound British or Scotish, whatever he was susposed to be. It just ruined an episode I was totally looking forward to
April 3rd, 2012 12:01 AM
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April 2nd, 2012 11:58 PM
I don´t think it was solid. The dancing was so bad, no grace, no charm, completely forced..didn´t like it at all.
Beckett grabs the card case with her hands and finger prints all over the place...and she was supposed to get finger prints off of that?? :(
It´s bad enough when Castle is smarter than the whole precinct, FBI and Homeland Security put together
Rank: Regular Character
April 2nd, 2012 11:40 PM
Lanie has always been a Caskett fan... I do miss Martha and Alexis...