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True Blood Round Table: "Save Yourself"

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True Blood Season 5 has come to an end.

But with four kids for Andy, a new relationship between Tara and Pam and some sort of Bill/Lilith-like creation formed, discussion over "Save Yourself" has only just begun.

In the latest edition of the TV Fanatic Round Table, staffers Matt Richenthal, Chris O'Hara, Leigh Raines and Jim Garner are joined by Liz Henderson of True-Blood.net to break it all down. Let's dig in!

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What was your favorite scene from the finale?
Matt: Every single one involving Jason. He managed to crack me up (If I want to be a fool then I will be a fool! That is my God given right as an American!) and also inspire me, going all business and taking down every vamper that came his way. All in the name of protecting his sister, too. Good guy, that Jason Stackhouse. Sucks for Jessica, though.

Chris: Oh man this is tough. The scene where Bill poisoned Salome was the most intense. If I had to name a favorite that exemplified what I love most about this show, though, I choose the scene where Eric made like Long Duk Dong in Sixteen Candles and popped his head into Jason’s truck window to ask him to pull over. I must have rewound that exchange three times before forcing myself to move on to the rest of the finale.

Liz: When Bill reveals his plan to remove Salome from the equation. Until he started talking, I was sure that he was taking her down just because she was nuts and high on the Lilith thing. That it was all part of his and Eric's plan to take down the Sanguinistas. I was floored when he revealed his actual intent. Well played, writers and Stephen Moyer.

Leigh: The final scene just blew my mind. I was always kinda on the Bill/Sookie team but after everything he said, and Eric showing how much he cared for her, I am off Bill. Or should I say Billith? Please tell me we're not spending all of next season looking at Bill soaked in blood like Carrie. Overall, an intense and amazing scene that elicited a very audible gasp from me.

Jim: Arlene, Lafayette and Jane watching those glowing and sparkling babies being born. All three were totally unphased by the bright light coming out of her... and by the fact that she had four good-sized gals in there.

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Was Rosalyn's death the coolest in show history?
Matt: Yes. I've heard of a fly in the ointment, but that was ridiculous... ly awesome!

Liz: I laughed so hard! It was by far the best death scene we've witnessed on this show. They continue to raise the bar!

Chris: I agree with Liz on this one. Sam has really learned to use his shifter powers to his advantage this season more so than ever. I loved the shots of Bill and Salome seen through the multi-lensed eyes of a fly.

Leigh: Sam is in it to win it. Definitely a great death scene. At first I thought he was trying to sacrifice himself for Luna and then, POW, Sam looked like Lilith too. However, my answer is no. Greatest death scene was season two Maryann, when Sam turned into the devil horse and ripped her heart out.

Jim: Rosalyn wins hands-down for funniest, but coolest of the night was Russell's death. First, leaking the light of the fairy he had just eaten... and then realizing what was going to happen right before he popped.

What should Andy name his children?
Matt: Easier question ever: The BelleFOUR.

Liz: Athos, Porthos, Aramis and D'Artagnan. Why not?

Chris: Terry Sue, Andy May, Sookie Joe and Arlene Lynn.

Leigh: Names? Andy needs to stamp them or something to keep track. Let's go Dr. Seuss on this: Thing One, Thing Two, Thing Three, Thing Four.

Jim: Tinkerbell, Iridessa, Vidia, Rosetta. What?!? I can't be the only one who watches True Blood and Disney Fairies.

Were you happy to see Tara lay one on Pam?
Matt: No. I find the Maker/Makee relationships - Eric/Pam, Bill/Jessica - fascinating on their own. I didn't need, or care for, the addition here of a lesbian Maker/Makee relationship. Never thought I'd write this, but not EVERYthing has to be about sex, True Blood.

Liz:

Chris: Pam and Tara’s relationship was possibly my favorite story line of the season. They both have lived such hard lives, largely on their own. They are both survivors who deserved someone good in their lives. Jessica’s “I knew it” was a great touch, as was Tara’s order to Pam to stay alive because she was owed a date.

Leigh: At first I thought Pam and Tara was out of nowhere and then I realized it made a lot of sense. Everything Chris said is spot on. Loved Sookie and Jessica's reactions Oh, Okay... I knew it!!! The bonus scene had another great Pam and Tara exchange.

Were you surprised Bill drank the blood?
Matt: Gosh yes. I figured Sookie would (lamely) talk him out of it or we'd learn he was pulling one big con all along. Instead, we were left with a genuinely intriguing cliffhanger and a new direction for a character that had grown stale.

Liz: No, I was stunned! That whole scene shocked me speechless. At first I thought they actually killed Bill and I was in disbelief. Then, when he rose out of that puddle of blood as the new Billith, I was shocked and delighted. Just think of the possibilities for Season 6 with this transformation. No book fan would ever have seen this coming - and as one myself, I'm thrilled about it. After all, we've already read the books. This gives me something new and exciting to look forward to involving beloved characters.

Chris: Not after his speech about how he was tired of always feeling guilty about what he was. It didn’t shock me to see him betray Salome, either, and I rather liked his calculated bet that she wouldn’t detect the silver. His calm and cool admission about killing Kibwe did raise my eyebrows, however, as very ballsy. When he was reduced to a puddle of goo I knew he wasn’t done, but his resurrection was still a very intense scene made that much more so by the fear in Eric’s eyes.

Leigh: If Bill would have just gave in after one speech from Sookie, it would've been pretty lame. As much as I love her and believe in the powers of her "fairy vagina" (Copyright, Pam).

Jim: Bill has been on the bat-shit-crazy train ever since he stopped Eric from escaping a few episodes ago. When he hadn't tainted the blood but replaced it to kill Salome, I knew he would drink it. That said, I'm not sure what surprised me more him being reborn as Billith (great term, Leigh) or Eric screaming "RUN" to Sookie.

Give Season 5 a grade.
Matt: B. I might have gone C if not for the surprising conclusion, too. There are still too many characters and too many stories that feel wholly removed from everything else going on. In a word: Terry. In two words: smoke monster. In three: come on now!

Liz: I'm giving it an A. It has been my favorite so far. It hit on all points for me: character growth, action, drama, cheese, fun and shock.

Chris: I give it an A as well. I liked how each week we delved deeper into the emotional toll this world has wrought on the main cast of characters. Jason and Sookie’s heart to hearts were a nice addition, as were the various flashbacks to characters pasts and origins. This was all done without sacrificing the light-hearted and comedic moments that do well to keep the show from going too dark.

Leigh: Sorry guys, going with a B. There were a couple of storylines we could've dropped. I also got really sick of The Authority by the end.

Jim: A-. Overall, the episodes moved well, up until the finale. I felt like they rushed too many resolutions into the final episode. There were at least two conclusions that could have been worked into the previous one.

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I loved this season. I got to see scene stealer Pam and Tara. I am glad this season focused on Pam's life a lot more because we as viewers didn't know a lot about her. I got bored of Sookie tugging back between Bill and Eric, it just got old and reminded me of a daytime Soap. This season we got to see a lot of other characters shine and proved very fruitful for HBO, because their viewership actually went up to over 5 million. Which means that TB is not going anywhere at least for 2 seasons. Alan Ball is leaving TB next season to do something else. But I really don't think they need him, because he has placed, great people in the right places, for him to move on. However, don't expect him to totally give up this baby, as I am sure he will be a consultant on the set ( I can almost guarantee it). That's just they way HW works. Favorite lines this season: Pam:- "Make her, I don't even like her!" Sookie: "Shouldn't you hold her or somthin?" Pam: " I'm wearin a walmart sweatsuit for y'all if that doesn't show team spirit, I don't know what does!" Pam: " A Hundred years from now you won't even remember her, this... I promise."

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I predict that we'll have a lot of baby/parent action in Season 6.
Andy's new 4. Little Emma (if Luna is dead, Sam's gonna be a daddy!). I'm sure lil Mikey could easily revert to Devil Baby. Warlow's relationship to the fae-human baby he so wanted... LOTS o babies.

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I continue to love True Blood as much as I did from the first season. At the end of each show I always find myself saying WOW!
Yes, it has continued to evolve but isn't that why it never fails to shock and delight us? This show never gets stale. It exercises our imaginations. The special affects are amazing! At the end of the hours episode I am always wanting MORE! I am a bit disappointed that Pam and Tara's relationship didn't turn out to be that of a mother/daughter, but turned out to be a sexual one. We have plenty of sexual pairings on TB and I thought a mother/daughter relationship between Pam and Tara would be refreshing and something that would have benefited both Pam and Tara. I believe Lilith was a demon type of creature who exists to create pure and utter chaos and conflict. Bill with his taste for power played right into her plan to seduce, destroy and create pure chaos. Can't wait for season six! Wonderful team of cast and writers and all who make True Blood the incredible series it is.

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Holy bat crap. That is the true blood show I love. Thank you Alan Ball for not letting me down. After last season I thought TB was a done deal. To be quite honest.
the most shocking thing to me was actually that Eric survived. Giving how busy Alexander Skarsgard is at the moment and how close my favorite Vikingfanger danced to the edge of the true death I thought he´d join his maker in a glamourous death scene. Guess I was wrong (thank god/lilith).
great comeback TB from the path into a mediocre horrorsoftporn. Loved the whole storyline with the authority and the paralells to religious fanatism. That was a really smart move.

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Umm what are people on???? Season 5 was the worst! I mean after what happened to bill, i could barely watch. If he dosent go back to normal or sookie i will stop watching. Seriously season 1 and 2 were the best.

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Season Five was pretty good (my opinion) but I am still wondering who Warlow could be! I guess the is part of the cliffhanger as well as Bill turning into Billith and shocking Sookie and Eric so much that they had to run from him! Anyway, I am also hoping that Luna survives and Luna, Sam and Emma get out safely but who knows with this story!

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Seeing as I just watch the show, I'm a Bill man. I think he embodies the "southern gothic" vibe the show has when it's at it's best. Eric's "viking prince" thing feels a bit out of tune sometimes. I'm happy they made Bill go all the way with losing his humanity instead of wimping out at the end. Now Billith can go about wreaking havoc before Bill tries to turn back. I predict at the conclusion of Billith, the Lillith-part will be destroyed and Bill will be reborn...a moral again...thus setting up the "now that Sookie as a human Bill, does she need a vampire Eric?" for season 7.

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I find all of the Bill-bashers / Eric-apologizers interesting... I imagine it all stems from book-readers who want the show to follow the Eric/Sookie-ship, but it's funny how Bill gets thrown under the bus for doing vampire things (like killing) and Eric gets a free pass as the anti-hero. I find the Bill/Eric and Bill/Eric/Sookie thing a bit more annoying every season since it plays out like: 1. Bill = Louie / Eric = Lestat: Bill is introduced as the first hero and is a self-hating vampire who longs for his humanity. Eric is introduced first as an enemy / antihero and then evolved into a hero. 2. Bill = Angel, Sookie = Buffy, Eric = Spike: Bill is the "vampire with a soul" and Eric is a bad guy who goes good because of the love of a good woman. Heck Angel even loses his soul to become "Angelus" who is evil and relishes in all those vampire things (Billith anyone?).

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Ugh, to finish my thought: viewers have paid far too much attention to Bill's self-serving speeches rather than objectively observing his awful deeds. He has become the thing he always was, only moreso.

True Blood Season 5 Episode 12 Quotes

Jason: Something funny fanger?
Eric: Yes blood bag.
Jason: Leach.
Eric: Breather.
Jason: Dead fu-k.
Eric: Meat sack.
Sookie: Stop acting like children.
Nora: You smell like something I once dreamed of.
Sookie: Eric please ask your sister to stop looking at me like that.

Nora: What is she?
Eric: She is a waitress.

True Blood Season 5 Episode 12 Music

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Stabbing-westward-save-yourself Save Yourself Stabbing Westward iTunes
Brick-dazz Dazz Brick iTunes
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