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Jane: This is Red John. Lisbon: How can you tell? Jane: Because when it's him I can feel it.
October 30th, 2012 9:10 AM
I didn't read where anyone caught on to the Mentalist insider joke. Where Jane comes in the next day in his suit and Rigsby tells him to take the desk in the back of the unit. Jane points to the back of the unit, then circles his mouth in reference to Rigsby's facial hair and then Jane gives him a salute with his index finger and walks away. Check it out! I thought this episode was fun all the way throught. Jane was being slick all the way through this episode. Very fun episode for me!
October 30th, 2012 9:01 AM
I thought this was a great episode. While Jane appeared to be vulnerable, he also seemed to be sizing up the people at the CBI. It seemed clear to me that Jane was willing to do what ever he needed to do to be a part of the Red John investigation. That's why he made Hannagan hit him. He knew exactly what would happen next. When Lisbon helped him up he said "Teresa Lisbon, that's a nice name." Jane was buttering up the boss after a cold read! He knew that while Lisbon was being cold outwardly she had a soft spot and that's why she was putting up w/ Hannagan. Her soft spot showed up again when she left Jane sleeping on the couch. She was being protective of him. She looked at him in a very maternal way.
October 30th, 2012 7:07 AM
The scene in which Jane says thank you to Lisbon was almost real. He seemed to speak with emotion, as if he would leave the soul.
October 30th, 2012 4:42 AM
I loved Simon Baker's performance, I felt him so vulnerable, disoriented and lost than had wanted to adopt him. Baker is a wonderful actor. The rest of the cast also loved, especially Owain Yeoman, each day he is better actor. The writting and direction also great.
October 30th, 2012 3:16 AM
@Robleon: LOL. I agree and can’t believe that so little attention has been given to that huge reveal. The clincher was when he spoke!!!
October 30th, 2012 1:32 AM
That was Red John in the back of the limo. For the love of God, people.
Rank: Guest Star
October 30th, 2012 1:06 AM
I liked this episode and wasn't surprised that the CBI team members were stiff and boring. It's Jane's influence and seeing how he often gets results by playing games that can't be had by being hard-nosed that has softened all of them up. He's made them better police officers and people.
I did find Lisbon rather cold but, then again, she was a year into her investigation when all of a sudden the drugged up/hungover looking relative of 2 of the victims turned up.Knowing her own past with her father hitting the bottle instead of facing her mother's death, she may have thought 'So NOW he's interested in this.What a loser!' It's only quite recently that she's found out he was in an asylum after the murders.
Rank: Extra
October 29th, 2012 11:07 PM
Okay so I know people have talked on other sites about this but I've never seen it on here, but I could definitely be wrong.
Anyways, I really felt this episode was setting it up for Jane to be Red John, obviously this is just a theory that I've heard that sure, it has holes, but everyone does..
Any thoughts? I'm open to anything. I just feel this would probably be the biggest twist in tv history.
October 29th, 2012 10:48 PM
continued...I think the writers were trying to be too clever with the Van Pelt timeline. And I found it disrespectful to regular viewers who pay attention to such details.
October 29th, 2012 10:46 PM
First, I agree with Bill and Gata...PLEASE, make Red John go away. They have cried wolf so many times with the Red John story that I truly just don't care anymore. It is weakening what is otherwise a great show. I find the Red John episodes extremely tedious and annoying at this point and I get very tempted to change the channel. If they never tell us who he is, I won't lose any sleep over it.
Meh, as Jane would say. Overall, I thought this episode was just OK. Yes, Jane was more broken than usual, but did we really need this episode to know that? We already knew he was in a mental hospital, his personality when he got out was not surprising considering this. I also couldn't get past the problem with the timeline someone pointed out. I just can't believe they interview Van Pelt, don't hire her, then hire her 4 years later. Which means either she started 4 years earlier than we were told, or Jane started 4 years later. I think the writers were trying to be too clever. I fou
Rank: Regular Character
October 29th, 2012 7:57 PM
Good idea, bad execution. The actors weren't playing younger versions of themselves. Jane looked lost/out of step but not damaged/hurt/unstable. No insight gained. I liked that Jane's couch was from the evidence room.
October 29th, 2012 6:46 PM
Ok. Went back and watched ending again and he doesn't look like Wainwright. Sorry. But its clear something big is going to happen!!
October 29th, 2012 6:32 PM
Loved this episode. At the end scene in the limo, the guy favored a younger Wainwright. I don't know who the 2 people were though but can't wait to find out.
October 29th, 2012 6:08 PM
I think the opening title said several years ago not 5 years ago
Rank: Recurring Character
October 29th, 2012 5:48 PM
The fact that Van pelt applied for a job at the CBI doesn't mean she was hired right away. Maybe she only got the position four years later.
October 29th, 2012 3:09 PM
re: the timeline stuff that bugged me, (see my previous email). in the pilot, when they flashback to the day of the murders, it's titled 5 years ago. so if jane was out of the loop or in the bin for a year, in the pilot he is with the cbi for 4 years and it's van pelt's first day. so if we're keeping things honest, rigsby would not be panting over her photo on jane's first day. she was still four years in the future. just sayin'.
October 29th, 2012 3:04 PM
first, some pure simon adoration. simon played the poor lamb to perfection. he was tragic and manipulative at the same time. that shot of him sleeping on the sofa at the end was beautiful. (he always looks beautiful lying down). also, at that moment, lisbon appreciated for the first time what a fine specimen he is.
i loved having minelli back. gregory itzen just brims with personality. la roche was an interesting interim boss. wainwright a nothing. and if hightower mentioned her kee-yuds once more, i was going to scream. draping a woman in the mantle of motherhood does not a character make. let's see who they bring in next.
polly walker is a great villain. a real lethal beauty. check her out in the series, rome, if you want to see something really scary.
also, there's some time-line stuff that doesn't make sense. in the pilot, the flashbacks to jane and the murders are titled: five years ago, and van pelt is a newbie. so if jane was missing for a year after the mur
October 29th, 2012 2:44 PM
Loved this episode
I wish they'd finish out the rest of the season back in time like this until the next red john type episode comes up.
October 29th, 2012 12:44 PM
This episode was outstanding! Simon Baker did a superb job showing Patrick Jane as a desperate, rootless and tortured man. He is a lovable, almost childlike guy who needs and has always needed a mother or mother figure to look after him. His wife no doubt did that. He saw Lisbon as that figure and provoked an attack to bring that out. The last scene in the limo was perplexing. So Minelli has been involved all along? Did he resign when he saw how it led to his agents being killed? Where did those other 2 people come from? Why was Jane targeted for ongoing RJ surveillance? Other victims' loved ones weren't. Did something in Jane's psychic past trigger a RJ obsession with revenge. One character said if you want to hurt someone, don't kill them, kill their family. Something deep seems to be going on here.
Rank: Extra
October 29th, 2012 12:08 PM
So apparently the only image Ihave of simon baker is the clean cut one cause Iwas shocked last night. That vest has become addictive lol. I loved the ep and cho kills me with the deadpan, no expressions version of him. I love cho.
October 29th, 2012 11:23 AM
I agree with Bill - please let/make RJ go away!!!
October 29th, 2012 11:10 AM
OK.... i realize that this episode set up the whole Red John thing, but now years out, I really want him to go away!! The relationship between Jane and the rest of the team can certainly stand alone, and maybe a few references, but please do not turn the Mentalist into The OBSESSED.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 29th, 2012 10:03 AM
I liked this episode fine.
I too don't understand what was going on and with whom on what side in the limousine. I appreciate the speculations and thank those who have and encourage anyone else to help those of us who aren't quite getting it figure it out.
Didn't the producers/creators say that we "may" have already seen Red John and just not realized who he is?
October 29th, 2012 8:52 AM
Lisbon is relatively cold and distant with Jane. This makes sense, because if anyone has seen all season, episode after episode, you'll notice that for the first 2 seasons Lisbon was quite rigid and authoritarian. Her attitude toward Jane begins to change in season 2. And I think actually, Lisbon has won most of his fans from season 3. In yesterday's episode she was more like the beginning of the series. I loved the look of the actors and the writing.
October 29th, 2012 8:22 AM
I think the man in the limo was Red John, after 5 seasons and numerous red herrings I think the writers have given it to us straight but we still don't know who he is, how is he so powerful/influential and why does he do what he does? I'm guessing those are the questions that will be answered as the series progresses. The writers probably thought, hey you want to see red john for real? Here he is, but just seeing his face isn't going to solve the mystery. I could be way off though, all in all it was a good episode.