@kidkddd, The point with Quinn is that she matured at the end of last season. After everything that she went through (and all her personality changes) she learned her lessons and grew up. This Quinn regressed back to her season 1 bitchy-self as if everything she went through never happened. Her backstory didn't help her either. It seemed to me that the Quinn that graduated didn't need a man nor would she have slept with a married, older one.
kdkddd
December 2nd, 2012 1:31 AM
Why are people gaining up on marley and just because quinn left for college doesn't mean that she stopped being a bitch.
Amie Rank: Regular Character
December 1st, 2012 9:00 AM
- Finally, can we get more scenes where we see how the old glee club members interact with the new ones? Otherwise it is starting to feel like they are all leading separate lives and only get together when they need to sing. Glee was initially about unity and each member reflected on the other. Now I don't see or feel that.
One last thing, surprisingly I for once liked the shower dude because of how mature he acted towards the once again childish Rachel - he wasn't supposed to wait for her permission on be able to read her brain and see that she wanted him once she broke up with Finn. And I didn't like how it sounded out of Rachel's mouth either - as if she finally got out of that relationship and like it meant nothing to her.
Amie Rank: Regular Character
December 1st, 2012 9:00 AM
They have more than enough talent to win this so I did not get why Marley acted like OMG, I am going to let everyone down.
- Jake - ok, I am cool with the bromance he has going on with Ryder, but I don't like it that they are making it look like all this time Jake had so many hidden talents and now the writers are forcing me to like him more than Ryder. Sorry but Jake was an ass at the beginning and Ryder was awesome. You are telling me Ryder could not do the dance? After he killed the Hand Jive AND had Mike as his mentor? Please do not lessen down the awesomeness of Ryder just because he was like that originally and Jake needs to be painted better. It feels unnatural
- Finally, can we get more scenes where we see how the old glee club members interact with the new ones? Otherwise it is starting to feel like they are all leading separate lives and only get together when they need to sing. Glee was initially about unity and each member reflected on the other. Now I don't see or fe
Amie Rank: Regular Character
December 1st, 2012 8:59 AM
Good episode, I enjoyed seeing the OG mentor the newbies but while all that was great, I have to point out a few things:
- Marley, ok, so last week she was all confident about asking Jake out and then what this week before sectionals she reverted to being the insecure weird Marley again? I know Kitty is 90% the reason behind this but this feels like a plot hole because I would have felt more sorry for Marley if she continued with the bulimia while putting on a brave face for everyone else instead of walking around like a ghost feeling sorry for herself and making herself sick for no reason at all. From last week's duets I thought Marley had gotten at least enough confidence in herself to start questioning what she is doing to herself but this week it felt like she was being sad and overworked for nothing. I mean it is not like the Glee club members are pressuring her to win Sectionals. They have more than enough talent to win this so I did not get why Marley acted like OMG, I am goi
DG
December 1st, 2012 12:09 AM
Also, Gangnam Style was just plain awful! I finally get to hear Tina sing and Gangnam Style comes out of her mouth. What a waste of talent. As much as I hate the Warblers, they can't even compete with the stupidity of that song. And really two songs for the Warblers?! How about giving Tina or Artie some lines?
Let's have a Kiki was a lot of fun. I wish they'd stop with turning Finn into Shue. It's becoming annoying watching second rate versions of the originals. Either bring Mr Shue back or allow Finn to make his own mark with ND. Give him his own teaching styles for god's sake. And quit dressing him like Shue, it's creepy and bordering on obsession.
DG
November 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
As a Quinn fan I was extremely excited to finally see her back and when they sang Home/Homeward Bound, I thought, this will be worth the wait. Until the episode progressed and once again Quinn's personality changed for like the umpteenth time. The writers must like butchering her character. First with the crappy backstory and then making her bitchy, yet again. I felt like I was watching Season 1 Quinn.
Not only does she have multiple personality disorder but she also has amnesia. It was QUINN that bought the tickets to GIVE to RACHEL! These writers must have ADHD cause their writing is all over the place. And it's getting worse by the episode.
ZJWurt
November 30th, 2012 11:46 PM
@Miranda Wicker
That makes much more sense. The switching back and worth does get a little annoying, although I liked Let's Have a Kiki and the Klaine conversation enough for me to not care as much about the constant setting switches THIS episode. But I definitely see what you meant now :)
Matt
November 30th, 2012 10:18 PM
@ DC
I completely disagree with you, the point was she thought the had gotten fat from the costume and so is now trying to lose weight.
So past tense, she THOUGHT she HAD GOTTEN fat, not that she is gaining weight. Also for someone who's dealt with this, you are being absurdly logical, the girls with these disorders are hardly thinking it through. That's kinda the entire point.
DC
November 30th, 2012 9:04 PM
OK, annoying plot point.
EVERY bulemic or anorexic I know - and since I used to work in psychiatry ON an eating disorders floor I have known a lot of them - have obsessively weighed themselves, after going to the bathroom, on arising, after eating, after throwing up, etc. Yet we are supposed to believe that Marley is so clueless that she actually buys that she is getting fat based on ONE costume - while the rest of her clothes are presumably the same? And clearly she must NEVER weigh because she would also realize that she was not gaining weight if she had done so!
THAT is lazy, plot-point writing. I'm all for real issues, but at least make them realistic!
That said, Brady is hot, hot, HOT.
DeAnn Rank: Recurring Character
November 30th, 2012 5:41 PM
I agree with the reviewer that Marley's bulemia needs to be addressed in a serious way, so that other girls watching will realize that this is a physically dangerous thing to do to your body, and that it can mess up your internal organs, screw up your teeth (the stomach acid errodes them and turns them gray)and give you gut problems that may lead to more serious problems like bowel cancer or IBS. I knew someone with bulemia when I was a magazine editor back in the 1980s, and she ended up with stomach cancer that metastisized to her intestines and she died young. I also think Kitty needs to be expelled or given a smack down at the very least for making Marley think she was getting fat...that kind of evil can kill another person. I loved the music and the musical number in Kurt and Rachel's apartment was my favorite! And hurrah for Kurt for forgiving Blaine...that was awesome! I loved that all the old characters were back!
MrWriteSF Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 2:49 PM
@one: Quinn decided to grow up? What show did you watch?
quiet
November 30th, 2012 1:19 PM
The Quinn/Santana feud is a must have there are no better b's at McKinley. Kurt and Blaine just don't work without one another. Rachel and Finn should move on they sucked as a couple. The new Rachel is hot and seems like the only one who grew past McKinley. Santana will rescue the new girl like she did brit. Brit will get jealous and all hell will break loose when Santana find out about trout mouth. The new gay guys part is going to be interesting to watch unfold there's a lot that can be done with his character. True he is no Kurt but is strong in his own way. They need to stop making Finn look like a complete idiot. Mercedes character never truly got developed please don't let another American of color get lost on the shadows. Last rant. Lead chick country western. Let's start some stuff and dismantle the glee club and force the newbies to go solo that way each character gets developed then bring them back together as a stronger group. Each one could pair off with a mentor to spice t
quiet
November 30th, 2012 12:59 PM
The Quinn Abrams
MrWriteSF Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 11:05 AM
See here I was HOPING Quinn would resurface, tell Kitty "Get over yourself; I was a bitch like you and nearly lost all my friends.", but alas no. Instead, Quinn gets all wet at the hero worship; it's like giving up a baby and being injured in a car accident had ZERO effect on her maturity. I think I'm done with this show--it's stuck in a loop.
dcb
November 30th, 2012 10:54 AM
What, no one mentions the best musical performance of the entire episode? The Rosedale Mennonites? Awesome! Quirky things like that are why I fell in love with this show. Like those 'Starlight Express' roller skaters at Nationals last season.... I want more. Seriously.
one
November 30th, 2012 10:36 AM
first off i would like to say i welcome quinn back on glee. the Unholy trinity was the highlight of the episode. i don't know why everyone is blaming quinn for marley's bulimia. She didn't have anything to do with it. Yes Santana brought it up but she was also a bitch about. first she dissed quinn by bring up her daugther and then she disses her for living her dream. second how is it that puck can date older women but quinn can't date a older guy. that's double standard b.s. in my opinion quinn has changed in to a person who left high school unlike most of her friend who graduated. i like the fact that she doesn't hang around Mckinley like a stalker and decided to grow up.
Leo
November 30th, 2012 8:58 AM
Miranda, I agreed with you that it's sad that we get Quinn S1 back.
It's like all those teen pregnancy and wheelchair stuff didn't seem to affect her at all.
I was hoping for a mature Quinn, who will put a stop on Kitty's crazy loop but instead she protects her.
And Santana caring on Marley is really sweet.
Why not make Santana team up with Crazy Kitty and Mature Quinn protects Marley? Plua does this mean we're not getting any info of Marley-Blaine duet? Since usually they performed duets first.
Sharon
November 30th, 2012 8:56 AM
Now that's what I call Glee! I 'd been drifting in interest as the season wore on and it was all noob love quadrangle drama and eating disorders with the retread characters. Snoooze. But the grads came back and brought that spark that made Glee fun back with them! Loved Santana/Quinn hashing things out and giving us insight into their post-grad lives. Puck was great with Jake and Quinn. Mercedes and Mike were, well, there and it was good to see them. All this just makes me want more, more more!
Home/Homeward Bound was so good. I've missed those sorts of group numbers, and this is the first song I've bought since the Breakup episode. The original cast have such strong and distinct voices, that indefinable Glee sound that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. These new kids just don't have it. They're too soundalike studio singers. I hope this is the start of focusing more on the grads and where they're going in life. That's way more interesting than the same old same old h
Elijah's Katerina Rank: Recurring Character
November 30th, 2012 8:40 AM
the whole marley pity me story is actually annoying me! i thought she was rachel 2.0 and then you throw this unnecessary spanner in the works (english sayings sorry) i think they need to address it for only one episode and make her recover for sectionals (2 episodes will do it no more PLEASE)
its uncomfortable to watch and frustrating that no one has noticed that she is starving herself! someone would have realised by now please they are not that airheaed.
Elijah's Katerina Rank: Recurring Character
November 30th, 2012 8:37 AM
@ashlie i will check again to see if this occurred which i hope didn't wanted britanny and santana back together.
the whistle song will forever make me uncomfortable and don't know how glee of all shows got away with usin it tonight tbh.
glad blaine and kurt finally spoke it was become so childish. they shouldn't get back together on the basis they have grown apart and in different directions (no pun intended)
rachel and mr guy blah stop forcing it, platonic all they'll be.
quinn smh it was badly scripted and making her notice marley and then taking kitty's word, abysmal. only good was the bromance tbh. gangham style felt a bit non pc the whole arrangement or am i the only one...
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
November 30th, 2012 8:11 AM
Yes, @Tara! That was...absurd. Horrifying. And absurd. Gangnam Style itself was absurd. But that was ultra absurd.
Tara
November 30th, 2012 7:36 AM
Tina finally gets a solo . . . and it's Gangnam Style. Can we please address this???
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
November 30th, 2012 6:50 AM
@Tess--No! You most certainly weren't the only one who thought the Warblers were awesome. I got a little caught up in my Marley musings. But while Whistle makes me uncomfortable on regular radio, it felt like a completely different (albeit still dirty) song when performed A Capella.
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
November 30th, 2012 6:47 AM
You know, @lilAngel, no, there's no mention of Rachel. And it's not that I'm anti-Rachel. I think it's that I really just don't like Brody unless he's shirtless. Yes, the two of them had a conversation about him sleeping with Cassie, but beyond that, her existence in last night's episode felt tangential to the other, more important stories.
Brittany: Let me break it down. No one in this musty choir room compares to my megawatt star power. Blaine, you're shorter than a lawn gnome. Joe, you look l...
December 2nd, 2012 3:11 AM
@kidkddd, The point with Quinn is that she matured at the end of last season. After everything that she went through (and all her personality changes) she learned her lessons and grew up. This Quinn regressed back to her season 1 bitchy-self as if everything she went through never happened. Her backstory didn't help her either. It seemed to me that the Quinn that graduated didn't need a man nor would she have slept with a married, older one.
December 2nd, 2012 1:31 AM
Why are people gaining up on marley and just because quinn left for college doesn't mean that she stopped being a bitch.
Rank: Regular Character
December 1st, 2012 9:00 AM
- Finally, can we get more scenes where we see how the old glee club members interact with the new ones? Otherwise it is starting to feel like they are all leading separate lives and only get together when they need to sing. Glee was initially about unity and each member reflected on the other. Now I don't see or feel that.
One last thing, surprisingly I for once liked the shower dude because of how mature he acted towards the once again childish Rachel - he wasn't supposed to wait for her permission on be able to read her brain and see that she wanted him once she broke up with Finn. And I didn't like how it sounded out of Rachel's mouth either - as if she finally got out of that relationship and like it meant nothing to her.
Rank: Regular Character
December 1st, 2012 9:00 AM
They have more than enough talent to win this so I did not get why Marley acted like OMG, I am going to let everyone down.
- Jake - ok, I am cool with the bromance he has going on with Ryder, but I don't like it that they are making it look like all this time Jake had so many hidden talents and now the writers are forcing me to like him more than Ryder. Sorry but Jake was an ass at the beginning and Ryder was awesome. You are telling me Ryder could not do the dance? After he killed the Hand Jive AND had Mike as his mentor? Please do not lessen down the awesomeness of Ryder just because he was like that originally and Jake needs to be painted better. It feels unnatural
- Finally, can we get more scenes where we see how the old glee club members interact with the new ones? Otherwise it is starting to feel like they are all leading separate lives and only get together when they need to sing. Glee was initially about unity and each member reflected on the other. Now I don't see or fe
Rank: Regular Character
December 1st, 2012 8:59 AM
Good episode, I enjoyed seeing the OG mentor the newbies but while all that was great, I have to point out a few things:
- Marley, ok, so last week she was all confident about asking Jake out and then what this week before sectionals she reverted to being the insecure weird Marley again? I know Kitty is 90% the reason behind this but this feels like a plot hole because I would have felt more sorry for Marley if she continued with the bulimia while putting on a brave face for everyone else instead of walking around like a ghost feeling sorry for herself and making herself sick for no reason at all. From last week's duets I thought Marley had gotten at least enough confidence in herself to start questioning what she is doing to herself but this week it felt like she was being sad and overworked for nothing. I mean it is not like the Glee club members are pressuring her to win Sectionals. They have more than enough talent to win this so I did not get why Marley acted like OMG, I am goi
December 1st, 2012 12:09 AM
Also, Gangnam Style was just plain awful! I finally get to hear Tina sing and Gangnam Style comes out of her mouth. What a waste of talent. As much as I hate the Warblers, they can't even compete with the stupidity of that song. And really two songs for the Warblers?! How about giving Tina or Artie some lines?
Let's have a Kiki was a lot of fun. I wish they'd stop with turning Finn into Shue. It's becoming annoying watching second rate versions of the originals. Either bring Mr Shue back or allow Finn to make his own mark with ND. Give him his own teaching styles for god's sake. And quit dressing him like Shue, it's creepy and bordering on obsession.
November 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
As a Quinn fan I was extremely excited to finally see her back and when they sang Home/Homeward Bound, I thought, this will be worth the wait. Until the episode progressed and once again Quinn's personality changed for like the umpteenth time. The writers must like butchering her character. First with the crappy backstory and then making her bitchy, yet again. I felt like I was watching Season 1 Quinn.
Not only does she have multiple personality disorder but she also has amnesia. It was QUINN that bought the tickets to GIVE to RACHEL! These writers must have ADHD cause their writing is all over the place. And it's getting worse by the episode.
November 30th, 2012 11:46 PM
@Miranda Wicker
That makes much more sense. The switching back and worth does get a little annoying, although I liked Let's Have a Kiki and the Klaine conversation enough for me to not care as much about the constant setting switches THIS episode. But I definitely see what you meant now :)
November 30th, 2012 10:18 PM
@ DC
I completely disagree with you, the point was she thought the had gotten fat from the costume and so is now trying to lose weight.
So past tense, she THOUGHT she HAD GOTTEN fat, not that she is gaining weight. Also for someone who's dealt with this, you are being absurdly logical, the girls with these disorders are hardly thinking it through. That's kinda the entire point.
November 30th, 2012 9:04 PM
OK, annoying plot point.
EVERY bulemic or anorexic I know - and since I used to work in psychiatry ON an eating disorders floor I have known a lot of them - have obsessively weighed themselves, after going to the bathroom, on arising, after eating, after throwing up, etc. Yet we are supposed to believe that Marley is so clueless that she actually buys that she is getting fat based on ONE costume - while the rest of her clothes are presumably the same? And clearly she must NEVER weigh because she would also realize that she was not gaining weight if she had done so!
THAT is lazy, plot-point writing. I'm all for real issues, but at least make them realistic!
That said, Brady is hot, hot, HOT.
Rank: Recurring Character
November 30th, 2012 5:41 PM
I agree with the reviewer that Marley's bulemia needs to be addressed in a serious way, so that other girls watching will realize that this is a physically dangerous thing to do to your body, and that it can mess up your internal organs, screw up your teeth (the stomach acid errodes them and turns them gray)and give you gut problems that may lead to more serious problems like bowel cancer or IBS. I knew someone with bulemia when I was a magazine editor back in the 1980s, and she ended up with stomach cancer that metastisized to her intestines and she died young. I also think Kitty needs to be expelled or given a smack down at the very least for making Marley think she was getting fat...that kind of evil can kill another person. I loved the music and the musical number in Kurt and Rachel's apartment was my favorite! And hurrah for Kurt for forgiving Blaine...that was awesome! I loved that all the old characters were back!
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 2:49 PM
@one: Quinn decided to grow up? What show did you watch?
November 30th, 2012 1:19 PM
The Quinn/Santana feud is a must have there are no better b's at McKinley. Kurt and Blaine just don't work without one another. Rachel and Finn should move on they sucked as a couple. The new Rachel is hot and seems like the only one who grew past McKinley. Santana will rescue the new girl like she did brit. Brit will get jealous and all hell will break loose when Santana find out about trout mouth. The new gay guys part is going to be interesting to watch unfold there's a lot that can be done with his character. True he is no Kurt but is strong in his own way. They need to stop making Finn look like a complete idiot. Mercedes character never truly got developed please don't let another American of color get lost on the shadows. Last rant. Lead chick country western. Let's start some stuff and dismantle the glee club and force the newbies to go solo that way each character gets developed then bring them back together as a stronger group. Each one could pair off with a mentor to spice t
November 30th, 2012 12:59 PM
The Quinn Abrams
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 11:05 AM
See here I was HOPING Quinn would resurface, tell Kitty "Get over yourself; I was a bitch like you and nearly lost all my friends.", but alas no. Instead, Quinn gets all wet at the hero worship; it's like giving up a baby and being injured in a car accident had ZERO effect on her maturity. I think I'm done with this show--it's stuck in a loop.
November 30th, 2012 10:54 AM
What, no one mentions the best musical performance of the entire episode? The Rosedale Mennonites? Awesome! Quirky things like that are why I fell in love with this show. Like those 'Starlight Express' roller skaters at Nationals last season.... I want more. Seriously.
November 30th, 2012 10:36 AM
first off i would like to say i welcome quinn back on glee. the Unholy trinity was the highlight of the episode. i don't know why everyone is blaming quinn for marley's bulimia. She didn't have anything to do with it. Yes Santana brought it up but she was also a bitch about. first she dissed quinn by bring up her daugther and then she disses her for living her dream. second how is it that puck can date older women but quinn can't date a older guy. that's double standard b.s. in my opinion quinn has changed in to a person who left high school unlike most of her friend who graduated. i like the fact that she doesn't hang around Mckinley like a stalker and decided to grow up.
November 30th, 2012 8:58 AM
Miranda, I agreed with you that it's sad that we get Quinn S1 back.
It's like all those teen pregnancy and wheelchair stuff didn't seem to affect her at all.
I was hoping for a mature Quinn, who will put a stop on Kitty's crazy loop but instead she protects her.
And Santana caring on Marley is really sweet.
Why not make Santana team up with Crazy Kitty and Mature Quinn protects Marley? Plua does this mean we're not getting any info of Marley-Blaine duet? Since usually they performed duets first.
November 30th, 2012 8:56 AM
Now that's what I call Glee! I 'd been drifting in interest as the season wore on and it was all noob love quadrangle drama and eating disorders with the retread characters. Snoooze. But the grads came back and brought that spark that made Glee fun back with them! Loved Santana/Quinn hashing things out and giving us insight into their post-grad lives. Puck was great with Jake and Quinn. Mercedes and Mike were, well, there and it was good to see them. All this just makes me want more, more more!
Home/Homeward Bound was so good. I've missed those sorts of group numbers, and this is the first song I've bought since the Breakup episode. The original cast have such strong and distinct voices, that indefinable Glee sound that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. These new kids just don't have it. They're too soundalike studio singers. I hope this is the start of focusing more on the grads and where they're going in life. That's way more interesting than the same old same old h
Rank: Recurring Character
November 30th, 2012 8:40 AM
the whole marley pity me story is actually annoying me! i thought she was rachel 2.0 and then you throw this unnecessary spanner in the works (english sayings sorry) i think they need to address it for only one episode and make her recover for sectionals (2 episodes will do it no more PLEASE)
its uncomfortable to watch and frustrating that no one has noticed that she is starving herself! someone would have realised by now please they are not that airheaed.
Rank: Recurring Character
November 30th, 2012 8:37 AM
@ashlie i will check again to see if this occurred which i hope didn't wanted britanny and santana back together.
the whistle song will forever make me uncomfortable and don't know how glee of all shows got away with usin it tonight tbh.
glad blaine and kurt finally spoke it was become so childish. they shouldn't get back together on the basis they have grown apart and in different directions (no pun intended)
rachel and mr guy blah stop forcing it, platonic all they'll be.
quinn smh it was badly scripted and making her notice marley and then taking kitty's word, abysmal. only good was the bromance tbh. gangham style felt a bit non pc the whole arrangement or am i the only one...
Rank: Staff Member
November 30th, 2012 8:11 AM
Yes, @Tara! That was...absurd. Horrifying. And absurd. Gangnam Style itself was absurd. But that was ultra absurd.
November 30th, 2012 7:36 AM
Tina finally gets a solo . . . and it's Gangnam Style. Can we please address this???
Rank: Staff Member
November 30th, 2012 6:50 AM
@Tess--No! You most certainly weren't the only one who thought the Warblers were awesome. I got a little caught up in my Marley musings. But while Whistle makes me uncomfortable on regular radio, it felt like a completely different (albeit still dirty) song when performed A Capella.
Rank: Staff Member
November 30th, 2012 6:47 AM
You know, @lilAngel, no, there's no mention of Rachel. And it's not that I'm anti-Rachel. I think it's that I really just don't like Brody unless he's shirtless. Yes, the two of them had a conversation about him sleeping with Cassie, but beyond that, her existence in last night's episode felt tangential to the other, more important stories.