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February 15th, 2013 11:14 AM
Rationalgal, I have never conversated with an atheists before. I know people who got mad at God because of a tragedy in their lives but never anyone who just didn't believe. Did you ever believe or did something happen to make you not believe? Do you believe in any type of spiritualism? How do you explain life, how we came to be? What do you think of all the people who do believe? Do you think that God is a manifestation of man needing something greater then himself. Since you don't believe in God do you believe man has God like abilities? In your belief system, how does man ascend to greater heights? Don't go easy on me, I love to learn and I don't offend easily.
February 15th, 2013 11:03 AM
@ huisclothes,
We were looking for something all of us could watch together. We needed to appeal to all genders, ages, and closed captioning for the hearing impaired. The Mentalist is the only thing we watch. We have the DVDs too, because the captioning is better (less likely to visually block any of the scenes). We gave it a chance because we were familiar with some of Baker's and Tunney's film work.
February 15th, 2013 8:20 AM
god I'm feeling so teary right now, have watched a video of yesterday's ceremony, it cuts when Naomi is talking but never mind, I feel so proud of him and for him, it shows that despite what he experienced as a child (no paternal figure or at least a difficult relationship with him and people telling him he was crazy to believe in his dreams), he strove to have a beautiful family and career and how did he succeed! his efforts paid off big time! he's a real inspiration to me to be honest. we should never give up hope in life! believe is the key, then action comes in.
Well done Simon!!!!!!!
February 15th, 2013 4:31 AM
yes Huiclothes you can sleep soundly! Simon is here to stay :-)
speak later (still the same day for me when you are back as it's only 10.30 am here) weird eh?
good night!
February 15th, 2013 4:28 AM
you're right, it's me feeling like he's whistling through the graveyard to be up beat. i want to get quick word that they're renewed and i will celebrate for simon and all the fans.
time for me to take my leave. it's been lovely charing with. hope we speak tomorrow.
February 15th, 2013 4:02 AM
well yeah that's what they probably did!
February 15th, 2013 4:02 AM
I know HC that it's what you were worried about but I don't think so. he's the kind to count his blessing, he doesn't take anything for granted and this star was quite a big achievement (well the consequence of) and I don't see anything more to it. Now that said he might know TM is ending this year but I don't think he's sick or anything and god he's damn too passionate about his job to stop acting! and still so young!
February 15th, 2013 3:52 AM
hello mimi. when i said i was worried about simon going around talking about how grateful he is, it feels like something you say when you're retiring or you have a disease.
think it's great in general to count your blessings.
i hope they all went out to a nice dinner and i hope simon and his wife went straight to bed afterward.
February 15th, 2013 3:38 AM
awwwwww bless him! he's so cute! their family is adorable, made me shed a tear. I4m so happy for them and besides he so deserves it!
I do believe that gratitude is also the key factor to get more of what you want, it's important to realise everything you've got in your life and be grateful for it, even if it's "just" tap water or food on your plate every day. We tend to forget how lucky we are and see the glass half empty some days (which is human) but it feels so good to stop and think wow I have this and that and mainly I can watch the mentalist AHAH!!! ok don't mind my goofiness.
February 15th, 2013 2:06 AM
@km i'm awed by our set-up and sort of flabbergasted. you ought to see the cable guys do a spit take when they see it. there's a room with so many blinking lights, you'd think you're on the bridge of the enterprise.
when my husband's not home. i don't turn on anything. and i hate to see news in the a.m. or daytime t.v. but in the evening it's fine since he edits our viewing down to the 1% of tv that's good.
the only show i care about or ever really cared about is the mentalist. that's why i can't stand the idea of it being gone because it's never gonna happen again. but i do love project runway. it shows incredible talent and craftsmanship under very short time frames solving inventive challenges. i think it's an inspiration for any creative person.
can i ask, how did you choose and settle on the mentalist?
February 15th, 2013 2:00 AM
@rationalgal yep.
February 15th, 2013 12:54 AM
Ani, here is the basic atheistic philosophy:
Atheism accepts the natural world as all there is. To live without god beliefs is intellectually stimulating. To find one's own purpose and be responsible for one's own life is exciting. To be free of the imagined surveillance of good and evil spirits is liberating. To seek a peaceful world through work and friendship and civic action is life-affirming.
February 15th, 2013 12:42 AM
@ huisclothes, I am awed by your set up. We have one TV and no DVR. The Mentalist is the only show we watch. We're odd that way.
Blood suckers, eh, Anitraward 1?
February 15th, 2013 12:37 AM
She is lovely, huisclothes. I see her having higher cheekbones than her dad and a squarer jaw like her mum. I see Baker in his middle son: eye color, eyebrows, and jaw. The youngest seems to have dad's curls and hooded eyes, his face is still rounded to see how prominently his cheekbones will show. They are a lovely family.
February 15th, 2013 12:34 AM
@km my house a world of tv. my husbands a video maniac and we have 25 (yes 25) dvrs and every cable channel known to man. he has the tv on every waking minute in every room -- bathrooms too. the only benefit of this for me is he created a simon baker channel for me that records any first-run simon vehicle broadcast anywhere. so i have access to all the mentalists, all the guardians, the smiths, the movies, the talk shows. we both have our little obsessions.
but if i had to install some additional system to keep the mentalist going, they could implant it in my forehead and i'd be good with it.
February 15th, 2013 12:26 AM
You might want to rethink that KM, they are blood suckers! Trust me! You should see my monthly bill!
February 15th, 2013 12:22 AM
also, take a look at stella baker in the youtube footage of the hollywood walk of fame ceremony. what a peach! first time i've seen her grown up and fully aware of the power of her beauty, and not in a bad way. confident and gorgeous. with her father's features and thick curly hair. sexy girl. lucky girl. i wish her a lot of happiness.
February 15th, 2013 12:21 AM
I don't believe in religion and was raised RC. My mother who died of cancer, questioned on her death bed why the CC denounced her for marring a divorced man. When the CC, a few years later came out and appologized to women for their harsh treatment of women, I gave up my religious affliations.While I still believe in God, I don't believe in the hypocrisy of religious man made rituals.
February 15th, 2013 12:16 AM
Me too @Entwife and huisclothes. I love their gratitude, especially Baker's and Tunney's, and I hope that it will help when it comes to the shows future. Because they are both so genuine about it. (Not that other cast members aren't, I just don't see many interviews with them.) I hope that Warner Bros. Television will make it possible for the series to finish strong, be that reducing the fee CBS must pay or shop it to another broadcast network. I'd follow it, even if it means getting cable installed.
February 15th, 2013 12:10 AM
@entwife. re: redemption and red badge. they're both part of the bosco arc which has some of the best episodes in the whole series. there is so much to love in them.
Redemption. best scene, my opinion, jane and bosco on the roof of the cbi. great dialog. when jane put his hand on bosco's shoulder, it was the only time i've seen real physical provocation from him. like he was thinking of giving sam a glasgow handshake. something that nick fallon in the guardian did quite a few times. then the scene where he asks teresa to take him back. and the cocky little, cagney-esque walk he does when he follows her to the house.
Red badge. the mind-melding scene at the beginning. simon looks incredible when he throws his head back. the scene in minelli's office. the hypnosis scene. the scene were they catch the shrink. the "he's in love with you?" scene.
February 14th, 2013 11:52 PM
@entwife. i love the sentiment about cbs not canceling the show because of the star. who knows? can't believe it will cut any ice. the thing that depresses me the most is that simon keeps going around saying he's grateful.
February 14th, 2013 11:50 PM
I am amazed at where I am right now. This site will be another pivitol point in my life. Look at what we have here. I would not trade it for anything! There is more life here then I have seen anywhere! I am truely honored to be amoung you, no matter what our beliefs are. These are the mysteries in life I was talking about. We are here because of a TV show! But I have learned a great deal from all of you. Now that's a real F***king mystery by itself! We are from eveywhere! I feel good in this moment right now!
February 14th, 2013 11:34 PM
@rationalgal. ditto for me.
February 14th, 2013 11:17 PM
I'm not convinced either way. All the panentheist that I know don't believe in either heaven or hell so this life is all you have, nor do they think that prayers are heard and divinely acted upon by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipowerful being. The universe is everything and everything is in the universe. They are critical thinking and trust science. They know the Bible including all the extra canonical gospels well. And I see calling on the name of god or swearing to god as pretty common proclamation in times of stress. And, Jane he's a showman. I think Jane may want to believe that he is still connected to his wife and daughter deep inside. Atheists, agnostic, panentheist, or conventionally religious, I don't think the association matters in determining who is ethical and moral. The last of the four largely seems to depend on a source outside their conscience though. Their dependence on an outside source is what I see Jane truly rejecting.
February 14th, 2013 11:13 PM
Rationalgal, do you believe in anything higher then man?