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February 20th, 2013 12:25 PM
I was just thinking: It's kind of cool, that this show brings together people from all over the world and from all kinds of totally different lifestyles! I mean, Huisclothes lives in NY!! (how cool is THAT) and knows a lot about fashion, Mimi lives in Belgium and would like a makeover :-) and I'm out here in the bush with the wolves howling all night, wondering if I'll still have all my animals in the morning! Just to name a few of us. I really enjoy reading all your posts, gathering information and new words every day, getting a glipse into different worlds and into different views on life in general - awsome! I think I'll miss this tremendously when the show ends.
February 20th, 2013 12:17 PM
I was glad to hear about the show's "process" in deciding how to go with the RJ and Jisbon plot lines. Surely, @Bonaduz, they must read this very active board. I think there were almost 1200 comments on the last episode while we waited those interminable 3 weeks for the next episode. (I still haven't forgiven CBS for that) Of course there was a lot of off-topic discussion, but that was mostly desperation and trying to hang on. I hope Robin's comments mean we get a resolution to RJ and a clear Jisbon romantic attachment. I know not everybody feels that way. I wonder if I'm in the majority or not.
February 20th, 2013 11:44 AM
Hello there all! Entwife: thank's for the link. I just read the interview with Robin. She has a point there: If you throw up, then on somebody with kids!:-D She sais, that Bruno Heller and the writers read a lot of the stuff that the fans are writing. Hey - maybe there's hope and he reads these posts here and gets some ideas from it??!! Mimi: sounds like Huisclothes is helping you to become a new you? That is very nice of you HC! I also don't know anything about fashion, but I agree with HC. These people are rich and can afford to buy really nice clothes or even hire a stylist. Unfortunately I'm not rich and I don't think the cows and horses care much about my looks (LOL)! But also: you have to feel comfortable in what you wear! I know I would feel akward in a dress or fancy outfit and it would show!
February 20th, 2013 5:38 AM
ok email sent HC! :-)
February 20th, 2013 4:44 AM
ok thank you will send you an email, well it's more for fun than anything else really..
February 20th, 2013 4:33 AM
hihi I'm excited!!
erm well first thing first, because I put on weight I hate doing shopping as I feel huge in everything I try on. I would dress differently if I had Robin's figure obviously.
also I look young and would like to look older, or at least my age. I dont know how you can advice me?
February 20th, 2013 4:29 AM
that's so charming. my friends always say "can i be the dolly?" i dressed my creative partner for a big new york party she attended last week. she just showed up and left with shoes, bag and dress and hair direction. now she's an example of someone who wants to look good (has to for her job) but doesn't have the patience to shop and put it together. that's how she uses me. i often purchase stuff for her on line, she comes to my house, picks some pieces and we ship the rejects back. i am delighted to give you my thoughts.
a few years ago, i forbade a young writer who worked for me to get a spray tan before her wedding or to wear smoky eye make-up. no tan brides and no brides with dark, smoldering make-up. will look like crap in the pictures 20 years from now. go for audrey hepburn. anyway would love to help if i can. what do you want to look like?
February 20th, 2013 4:08 AM
hc I need a makeover! could you be my girl? lol seriously you seem to know a lot about what to weat according to our features..
February 20th, 2013 4:08 AM
oh. and i do mean it would have been great. think of how entertained we'd all be.
February 20th, 2013 4:07 AM
absolutely. the whole world is my barbie doll - or i'd like it to be. robin and rebecca should do whatever works for them.
February 20th, 2013 4:02 AM
ahah great of she did? oh no, terrible you mean! it's horrible to throw up and even more so in public lol
oh so that was when they were shooting, poor her..
February 20th, 2013 4:01 AM
well you've lost me.. I read somewhere she threw up on Simon for real, not in the show..
well I think as long as they felt good with what they were wearing that's all that matters right?
February 20th, 2013 4:00 AM
oh mimi! just realized you meant "did robin throw up on simon at the 100th episode event itself." that would have been great. no, it was while they were shooting.
once saw simon tell a story about shooting red planet (dreadful space movie) in spain and all the actors had the runs but were sealed into space suits. they had to let people pry open the backs of the suits and give them all shots in the butt.
February 20th, 2013 3:50 AM
hi mimi. think the throw up scene might have been crimson casanova. at least the scenes they showed while she was talking were the exterior shots when jane followed the drops of blood to the parking lot. will check again.
know i'm a pain but i don't really like rebecca's dress-up stuff. i think she was too matronly. she's beautiful -- i think the outfit is too old for her. seemed like something the grandmother of the bride wears. robin, on the other hand, looked like mutton dressed as lamb. too cutesy and insubstantial. the opposite of rebecca. naomi hit the perfect note in my opinion. sexy, interesting, understated. she's the same age as robin and only a little younger than rebecca. all are gorgeous. naomi and her friend, nicole have taste and an interest in fashion. robin and rebecca have neither. that's why they should get someone to make them look good on occasions when it's necessary. just saying.
February 20th, 2013 1:07 AM
know what's weird? brett stiles and brett partridge. a lot of bretts for one show, no? probably nothing.
excited to see the next chapter of lorelei. i hope they don't clarify patrick's feelings about her. keep him complicated. he's using her. he cares about her. he's attracted to her. he finds her repellent. he's upset by her violent actions. he identifies with her -- experiences the sweetness of revenge through her.
maybe there will be another blinking red light situation where patrick's actions help a killer commit a horrible crime. lorelei's the killer, patrick, in some fashion, drops a dime on someone she hates and enables her to kill that person.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 19th, 2013 11:30 PM
@rationalgal: I opened up a can of worms a bit with the RJ is white, it's possible in the show they have Ardiles as a white man. But a man who's name is Osvaldo Ardiles doesn't exactly strike white(although with RJ and his alias's that might not matter but that's a bit of a stretch). Still his lack of whiteness doesn't help his RJ case. As for Patridge couple reasons a) he's a quiet creepy type with an admiration for RJ. He just gives off a really odd vibe. b) He is one of those behind the scenes guys who fits the description of "Waldo" the writers had of RJ perfectly. c) He's scheduled to be on the next episode, his first one in 3 years. There's a reason they're bringing him back, obviously he most likely isn't RJ but he's there either to a) create suspicion b) be connected to Visualize. We know RJ is from Visualize, but as Hafner showed 3 wks ago, we don't know who really is involved in Visualize.
February 19th, 2013 10:18 PM
Hmmmm, I didn't know Ardilles is Hispanic. Thought he was just another white guy. Oh well. BTW how does Brett Partridge get on anyone's list of suspects? He's been on the show a couple of times, just a creepy crime scene cleanup jerk. Jane finds him disgusting (no one he'd shake hands with or want to be friends with). How is he connected to anything or anyone that would make him an RJ suspect? It really has to be someone with a Visualize connection, given that whatever info Jane gets about RJ comes from Brett Stiles who gets it from someone else and denies being RJ and says if he know who he was he'd tell Jane. Could be dissembling here, if it's true that RJ "is many" different people when doing killings on orders from the mastermind - whoever that is. And it could be Stiles hiding behind doubletalk.
February 19th, 2013 8:55 PM
@BW&R - true. The easiest path would be to pick one of the many non-hispanic white males that have been on the show. They surely have more than enough to choose from.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 19th, 2013 8:53 PM
@Watcher: You're right which is why I'm not completely ruling it out but it definitely doesn't make things more likely. Why would the show take that risk anyway, have a potential hispanic when you've called RJ white, that's just creating controversy either way even if you don't consider hispanic a race? That's one thing all TV shows try avoiding.
February 19th, 2013 8:49 PM
@BW&R- About Ardiles, I'm no expert on this, but I believe many people (I think this is a somewhat controversial topic) don't consider hispanic a race- they consider it an ethnicity. In that view, there are white hispanics, black hispanics, and other types. So I wouldn't eliminate Ardiles based on the belief that RJ is a white male. Plus, a little girl looking at him and not knowing his name could very easily just call him white.
February 19th, 2013 8:27 PM
@Entwife- yes, Baker makes it sound like he is using Lorelei but feels bad for her. That makes sense. I just can't believe he would have deep feelings for a RJ accomplice. I hope this will be the resolution of the Red John arc. But nothing would surprise me.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 19th, 2013 8:27 PM
@huisclothes: I do remember now though in the past that Jane has referred to RJ in the past as a white male. I really doubt the show would do that type of trick, it's one thing to dupe with us with something about romance, relationships or Jane even shooting someone, its different to just throw in blatantly untrue things for the hispanic Ardiles. Also the girl last yr who saw RJ said he was white with a baseball cap(of course her memory wasn't the best and that could be a minion or if it was him he knew Jane would know about it and know what he looked like so he clearly didn't care about his look or race which I doubt is the case if he were Ardiles). So that definitely puts a dent in that theory, although I won't write it off completely yet. Still would probably have him 2nd or 3rd with Patridge and MAYBE Bertram although we'll see.
February 19th, 2013 8:24 PM
@km thanks, finally read the article. sounds interesting. guess lorelei's fate will be a lesson for jane. can't wait to see it. not for a month, yes?
also, one can have beachy hair and look great. just don't think on little brunette robin with an asymmetrical dress and jagged hair and white skin. she just needed to be more organized. too many random shapes and edges. but that's just me.
@bw&r ardiles is nobody's favorite, is he? the only problem with him being red john is who cares about him? it's much cooler if the identity of red john throws us all for a loop and ties our emotions up in knots. ron is tabula rasa and ardiles is more sketched in but there's nothing to feel anything about. both would be too easy.
February 19th, 2013 8:23 PM
I was surprised that it says Jane comes to have regrets about breaking her out of prison. She must do some pretty horrific things (the article mentions a reign of terror)for that to be the case. Of course, that part is not a direct quote, so it could be the author's interpretation.
The other interesting part to me was Baker saying both were on the revenge path and calling this a "cautionary tale" and saying it will influence how Jane approaches things down the line. That is the most intriguing part. I wonder if he learns a lesson from this.
February 19th, 2013 8:19 PM
Great read, @Watcher. It's going to be an exciting remainder of the season! It feels really good to know some movement and even maybe some resolution to the whole RJ arc is coming up. It also feels great to have some things verified about the Jane-Lorelei relationship, especially that that is not going to be Jane's love. Thank goodness there's still hope for Jisbon!