Pretty Little Liars Round Table: "No One Here Can Love or Understand Me"

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We're days from the Pretty Little Liars Summer Finale.

To get you in the mood, we're taking Pretty Little Liars Season 5 Episode 11 to task in the following Round Table discussion.

What is all this business with Melissa burying someone? Did you believe Mona's sob story or care about Caleb's Ravenswood woes? Most importantly, who is going to die??

Join staff writers Leigh Raines, Nick McHatton, Teresa Lopez and Carissa Pavlica as they rip all of the best ideas to shreds and ponder the evidence for more brilliant theories. Join in and share your own thoughts in the comments!


Why was Bethany Young in the same clothes as Ali? Does anyone understand what happened the night she was killed?

Leigh: Bethany and Ali are related in some way, personally I think they are twins, maybe cousins perhaps. Bethany had mental issues and Mrs. D was hiding her so she referred to her as her aunt at the horse stables. Same clothes because she wanted to be like Ali. She probably hit Ali, Mrs. D buried Ali. Then hit Bethany in the head later, who Melissa buried. I mean this all makes ZERO SENSE. I think Ali getting hit that night had nothing to do with the rest of the Ali drama, but just family drama.

Nick: I like Leigh's line of thinking here. The show is quickly running out of other viable options.

Teresa: It looks like she was set up as an Ali decoy, but, no, I have no idea what happened that night. As the series goes on, more and more layers are added and I'm having trouble believing that so much could happen in one night. I mean the show can barely handle two things going on at the same time.

Carissa: Honestly, Leigh's answer is as close to sanity as I've heard. Who the hell has time to dig holes and cover them up in that short time frame? Plus, Ali was rescued by Grunwald. How odd was it to go out to your freshly dug hole, see it covered over with footprints tramped into it and all disturbed only to dig it up to prepare for the body again? I mean, what the HELL?

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Are both Hastings sisters guilty?

Leigh: Well Melissa is obviously. Ever heard of checking for a pulse? As for Spencer, it depends who hit Bethany Young.

Nick: Melissa dropped a presumed dead body into an open grave and dumped sand over it. Guilty as charged. Spencer is not as clear, all season she's been painted as hating what Ali has cornered them in to, but is she truly capable of murder?

Teresa: Spencer seems to think she's in the clear, but someone did bash Bethany over the head. It'd be a good twist for her to remember going back and taking a whack at someone she assumed was Ali. Especially after the show went through so much trouble to convince she was guilty of something.

Carissa: Did Bethany die of lack of oxygen? What was her cause of death? If it was dirt inhalation, then Melissa could have covered her up alive, too, but it's more likely that neither are guilty of murder. Spencer bashed Ali, Melissa buried her and Grunwald saved her. No idea who dug the hole AGAIN, bashed Bethany and put her in there.

Did you fall for Mona's sob story like Aria did?

Leigh: Mona is crazy, yes, but I really don't think she hates the rest of the liars so much as she hates Ali. I think she has a side that loved Hanna and missed her. She might even actually like MIke. At the heart of it all, she's just a teenage girl.

Nick: At this point, I believe Mona more than I do Alison, so I, like Aria, believe her.

Teresa: Yes and no. She was tortured enough to wish for Ali's disappearance, but we should never forget that Mona was institutionalized for a reason. She has serious personality issues that make her slightly dangerous.

Carissa: Huh? I don't even remember this sob story. Apparently unimpressed.

Where was Ali this week?

Leigh: In her lair, because she's totally working with A. I don't trust that girl for a second.

Nick: I'm over Ali so much that I didn't even notice she wasn't on screen. She was referenced enough to feel like she was there.

Teresa: Setting up her big finale. Honestly, the hour was probably improved without her constant whining, scheming, and manipulating.

Carissa: Who cares? Any week without her is a win.

Did you care about Caleb's Ravenswood tale?

Leigh: PERSONALLY- I only cared because I had to cover that awful show. So it was nice to have some closure even though it was ridiculous. Fireflies? For everyone else, no I doubt it. Same way they laced the Ouija board in. #promo

Nick: Not even a little bit. Fireflies? I've had enough of one cancelled show (Revolution) using Fireflies; I don't need another cancelled show to use them too. The shameless Ouija board promotion was just as terrible.

Teresa: Do you mean the postmortem on Ravenswood or the big plug for the Ouija movie? Neither one. Not even a little bit. I'll say it again, Haleb deserves better.

Carissa: It pisses me off that they took Caleb's entire season and squished it into a Ouija advertisement. That guy went through hell in Ravenswood. The least they could have done was show him some respect.

Prediction time: Who dies next week?

Leigh: Hanna seemed to be sobbing the most in promos. Maybe Mona? Some are speculating that she fakes her own death. Better not be Caleb!!!

Nick: Who I want: Ali. Who'll probably die: someone I don't care about.

Teresa: I'm guessing Alison, but she won't really be dead. Or, it could be Mona. Elicit some sympathy for poor Mona and then kill her off. It would look strange if more of A's minions were killed off.

Carissa: The only way to save this sinking ship is to have Ali die for real. Let her terrorize people for the entire hour and die, leaving her dead like she was supposed be when the series started.

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Sarah silva

Why was Bethany Young in the same clothes as Ali? Does anyone understand what happened the night she was killed?
I still think Ali is Bethany's twin, I have for a long time. They were/are not identical twins but I still say twins. Glad we are on the same page Leigh! :) Are both Hastings sisters guilty?
Just Melissa, while she did not realize Bethany was still alive she did bury her alive, so while she did not intend to kill anyone she did so unknowingly! They have been trying to make us believe that Spencer hurt Ali (well now Bethany) but personally, I am not buying it. Spencer did not do anything, yes she had the shovel but I think she found the shovel. Did you fall for Mona's sob story like Aria did?
Not one bit! More important question: What did Aria say to Mona to make her cry and run out of the theater! Where was Ali this week?
Ali is A, I am convinced of that! I may be wrong and on the day that Big A is revealed e and for all, no more minions or psych outs BUT the true A, if it turns out not to be Ali I will admit I was wrong. Did you care about Caleb's Ravenswood tale?
Yes I did because now we finally get closure in regards to Ravenswood, was not a fan of the fireflies story either but they did the best the could to wrap up Caleb's time in Ravenswood. Prediction time: Who dies next week?
I am not sure.......Mona?
I think Ali will die for real but not until the series finale.

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@ Mrs alex o'loughlin

Bethany can't be Ali's twin. Bethany was 17 when she died and Ali was 15 at that time


Who cares? seriously ali is the best part of the show


this recap is stupid

@ why

Well, "why", it's not a recap. Nor is it a review of the episode, which is what we do at TV Fanatic. It's a round table discussion about the episode.


Here's my theory and it's better than the others that are absolutely illogical. Mrs. G saved ali. Mona picked her up, cleaned her up n very eerily put her to sleep. She obviously did something with those god awful clothes that I (and Sasha) hate by now. Bethany escaped from Radley (because waltzing in and out of.that place is child's play), found and wore those clothes and went to settle something with Aunt Jessica (ahem.. Mommy Jessica maybe). A who was watching... And making a video earlier... thought it was Ali who she just buried rising a la Jesus Christ and whacked her again, escaping as Mel Hastings came along and the rest is history.

@ Jovita

The only problem with that though is that the clothes Bethany was wearing were clean where as Ali's were a complete mess at that point covered in dirt. Yes I realize that could just be a costume department error but if they really were planning on it being Ali's clothes you would think that they would have dirtied it up. Also the lost woods resort isn't just around the corner so Bethany couldn't have just found Ali's clothes out of nowhere. It would be more likely that if it was Ali's clothes, and not a separate outfit that was intentionally supposed to look like Ali's, that someone actually gave them to her.

@ kandi1212

Also they show Mrs d giving Ali those clothes saying it would look great on her! Maybe she bought a matching set for Bethany... We know mothers like to dress up twins alike!


I think this whole hitting bethany on the head and burying alive is a way to cover the facts released by the autopsy on earlier seasons which is just adding more confusion. But how did Melissa walk up to a body not see who it was before pushing it in a hole... Sure they showed us the blond hair on the face... But wudnt it be the practical thing to do?


Totally random tangent I am about to go on but I must rant a little. The night Ali disappeared/Bethany got killed is a complete mess in my eyes at this point.
1. Where the hell was Jessica dilaurentis when Ian, jenna, Garrett, and Melissa are all storming around her house hanging out in Ali's room waiting to ambush her?!?!? I am almost certain that took place before Ali was hit so wouldn't she have been in the house?
2. We know that Ian, melissa, garrett, jenna, Cece, aria, Emily, Spencer, Hanna, Jason, Mrs grundewald, byron, Ezra, Toby, and wilden were all on the dilaurentis or hastings property or in the very close vacinity of them that night yet NO ONE saw wtf happened to Bethany or Ali?!?!
3. What are the odds that two separate people had the bright idea to kill someone that night and bury the body in the EXACT SAME PLACE?!?!?!
4. Are the writers just going to conveniently forget that we also know that Cece was wearing the same outfit as Ali AND Bethany that night? And that Melissa saw her in said outfit that night? If the story is true that Melissa had called Cece to talk to Ali that would mean it was before she buried the body. So if she knew they were both wearing the same outfit that night wouldn't she have wanted to check the body to make sure she wasn't about to bury her friend?

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Pretty Little Liars Season 5 Episode 11 Quotes

Aria: If I try to tell Mike that Mona isn't what he's looking for-
Emily: You won't be able to separate them with a crowbar.
Spencer: Colorful, Em. Graphic, but colorful.

Caleb will listen to him. Never underestimate the power of a good bromance.