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Jane: This is Red John. Lisbon: How can you tell? Jane: Because when it's him I can feel it.
May 21st, 2010 7:04 PM
First of all I have to say The Mentalist is a great show. What dissapointments me about the writers is that they use RJ only as someone said previous "as bookends". RJ is Jane's whole existence and that is clear. Also, Jane NEVER or hardly EVER makes a mistake and if Kristina is RF (which I am hoping that is the case) he knew upfront or suspected. I have a feeling they are going to make Kristina another one of RJ's girlfriends/groupies why else would she NOT be afraid of him and why would she leave? The story line was great up until it turned out to be the roomates making a slasher film?? WTH was up with that?? That was NOT in line of the writing of that show and was really lame. The only saving grace was the very end. If the writers don't do something fabulous with this season finale, I'm afraid they will lose many viewers.
I personally think RJ might be that teacher at the college.
PS. Kristina is NO way Jane's type. He would be with someone far more intelligent and
May 21st, 2010 6:42 PM
While I agree it seems that Kristina is hiding something, I can't see how she could be Red John when there have been "girlfriends" of his that have identified him as a man. Furthermore, the cell mates that have linked some of the prior known Red John interactions/cases were men, so unless there is a co-ed prison that I don't know about... Red John is a man. "Roll Tide" was a confusing, but I think purposeful mislead on behalf of the writers to make you assume it was the waiter. Their body types/ voices don't seem similar enough though. Maybe he was shown somewhere in the background of the restaurant and when the show concludes some people with too much time on their hands can review the footage. Maybe a displaced fan of "Lost"?
May 21st, 2010 6:26 PM
The tyger is a poem from which he took the line "tyger tyger burning bright..." it is by william blake and it is about how could someone who made god make the devil
May 21st, 2010 4:52 PM
I went back and compared the voices of RJ and the waiter and the forensic guy.
The build of RJ doesn't match the build of the waiter and his voice is much deeper and more pronounced. He might be able to make his voice sound like that, but it would take a lot of work. It would also be a rather weird coincidence.
I like the forensic guy idea, especially for the Palpatine comparisons, but he seems a bit too jittery (though there is the Clark Kent approach there), and it doesn't really explain the "Roll Tide" at the end. It's definitely NOT the same voice but it would easily be within his range and doable for him without straining.
RJ could be Kristina, but I'd have to hear a woman's voice trying to sound like a guy again. Whenever I've ever heard a woman attempt that, it's distinctive in a different way, and they generally can't maintain it. I also have a hard time believing that Kristina could right the chair with Jane in it without really straining. That guy just bent ove
May 21st, 2010 4:01 PM
I think the fact that Patrick Jane was finally able to sleep at the end of the episode after being all caught up and jittery means that he finally knows who Red John is. Red John even said that to Jane too, "You know who I am, don't you?"
Of course Red John wouldn't kill Patrick. Patrick is the only one who understands/appreciates his brilliance and without Patrick, Red John's games aren't as meaningful. He enjoys toying with Patrick and has caused him the most pain possible and killing him would only take him out of his misery.
I think Kristina definitely has something to do with Red John, although I'm not sure if she IS Red John. Although it surprises me that Patrick wouldn't already know she had something to do with him right off the bat.
I think there is also some significance to the "Roll Tide" cheer being mentioned. It shows that Red John is probably following Jane... or Kristina told him. University of Alabama is the Crimson Tide... I think that's significant, just li
May 21st, 2010 2:57 PM
William Blake's poem is a clue. His wife thought she could talk to him after he died and "consulted" with his ghost on decisions. He had a painting called "A Brace of Partridge"...like the crime scene tech at the beginning of the show--Brett Partridge.
May 21st, 2010 2:24 PM
Red John is the forensic tech that was w/Jane at the first murder...same voice as in the end scenes w/RJ and Jane. He was also the forensic tech in the pilot episode and was "admiring" RJ's work and Jane called him a ghoul.
May 21st, 2010 2:05 PM
I think Red John is a woman.
May 21st, 2010 1:51 PM
Okay, everyone in my family is leaning toward Red John being an alter ego of Jane's. Sort of like in "Fight Club". And yes, we see Jane all bound with cellophane, but we don't see the rescue. And there is no mention back at the CBI office of RJ's new victims. Perhaps it was all in Jane's head? Just a thought. . .
May 21st, 2010 1:46 PM
What a disapointment. The final show played out as if the writers quit half way through the show and it rambled until the hour ended. In fact, last weeks' show wasn't very good either. Maybe the writers did quit.
May 21st, 2010 1:40 PM
The RJ blood smiley in Jane's bedroom is from the killing of his wife and child. We saw that in the pilot. I guess just as he has RJ in his mind and heart (for what he did) all the time, so physically he also has his presence haunting him. About the 'Roll Tide' quote by RJ when facing Jane, some ppl think it might be Kristina, but what if this just means that RJ is constantly on Janes heels, that he knows what he's doing, who he's talking to, without Jane being aware of it (which would freak me out if I were him). This happened in Pysch with Mr. Yang.
May 21st, 2010 1:36 PM
I believe in his own twisted way, RJ respects and would never physically hurt Jane. He's already punished and caused him the ultimate harm by murdering his wife and child. Alls that left to do now is emotionally taunt him. In a way, Jane being alive is exciting for RJ, Jane tries to catch and punish him while RJ continues evading capture. In a way, they both validate each other.
Jane has always slept in that room ever since his Red John murdered his family, i guess it keeps reminding him the need to avenge their deaths
May 21st, 2010 12:56 PM
"Mrs. Northman", what's with writing in the plural? Are you royalty? ;)
"Tiger" is a poem by William Blake, not a song btw. And the poem doesn't ask "the kind of hand who could dare smother this fierce fire", as Sylvia suggests. It "wonders" at what kind of creator it took to make the tiger, given its fierceness and other qualities. RJ may be hinting that he thinks God has made him to be what he is. Typical twisted narcissism for a serial killer. Or he may just be alluding to the experiences that shaped him. Or, another alternative, is that he is simply ascribing to himself the qualities of the tiger.
I'm all but certain that Kristina _is_ Red John; if not, she's been working with him from the beginning.
I'm guessing that the bedroom in the final scene with the "happy face" drawn on the wall in blood, is the bedroom Jane's wife was murdered in. Apparently he still sleeps there, or visits at least, and even though everything else has been removed he keeps the "face" on the wall
May 21st, 2010 12:46 PM
I thought the roommate/boyfried slasher movie thing was pretty cool when you look at from this angle: Jane compared the movie that they were making to a bad horror movie & I thought that the final scenes with Red John were remniscent of a bad slasher film. I thought that the writers framed the murder mystery aspect of the episode in this manner purposefully.
May 21st, 2010 12:35 PM
About the Blake poem. It just describes a fearful adversary which Jane himself described as a burning bright evil in the first episode . The question also is asked as to the kind of hand who could dare smother this fierce fire. What a brilliant metaphor for R.J. and his taunt to Jane. The title "Thin red Line" also was challenging since it refers to poorly protected country borders.
May 21st, 2010 12:24 PM
I believe Tiger Tiger burning bright is a poem by William Blake. Its significance is hard to say. But what I thought was the most chilling piece of evidence about Red John's identity was when he said "Roll Tide". There were three people who would understand the meaning of that. The waiter, Kristina, and Patrick himself. I find it hard to believe that the waiter did it considering the difference in voices but that can be altered. With that being said, Kristina has been quite shady considering her predicament and her adamant stance on not being a target. (Her interviewer being dead also makes the case it could be her--her motives are oblivious to me). The copy-cat plot was okay but nothing memorable. I also thought that crime scene guy in the beginning could be good for it, but that just seems more like a red herring. But then again, thats what they could want me to think....
May 21st, 2010 12:22 PM
The clue which Patrick I think got, but didn't verbalize about her killer is you see her wake and NOT startle...since she recognized her roommate...as a [weapon] was drawn, then she screamed.
Great show!
May 21st, 2010 12:20 PM
Your review prettry much is how I feel about all of it. Pretty rare that I read a review that hits every point I would make. I agree there is something more to Kristina than it appears.
What's with the bed and the RJ symbol at the end?
May 21st, 2010 12:04 PM
The really irksome some from the first episode of the first season came back and was equally annoying. Is he a goul or is he R.J. the voice was telling but I doubt if we are to find out until the final episode of the show in a few more years. I do agree that R.J. should have assaulted Jane with more than a mask and a riddle, after all, he had just offed a few people. A bit more blood could have been spilled but since Jane is such a wuss it might have spooked him too much.