bamboodo Rank: Guest Star
October 19th, 2011 5:00 AM
i love this ep!! Beckett finally express her jealousness of Castle's moment with another lady!! she's confused and angry with her shrink!! it's clearly that Castle was attracted to Kristin a little bit!! that's why he kissed her at the hotel!! we need more envious Beckett/Castle!!
Ole Mo
October 19th, 2011 3:42 AM
The boys in the elevator scene killed me...
Bonnie
October 19th, 2011 3:38 AM
I for one was happy when finally seeing the kissing scene. They had previewed the kiss as if Rick was losing patience with Kate and had started to fall for the lady in the red dress. Instead we learned that he was just trying to protect Kate and Esposito. The part I loved the best was that instead of taking advantage of her being distracted and leaving, Kate made no attempt to do so and showed obvious distress at what she had just witnessed! And her reference to the kiss throughout the rest of the episode was obvious jealously -- YES! It even drove her to vent to her psychiatrist who let her know that her attempt to hide the fact that this was about her feelings for Castle was futile. I think we may be making baby steps in the right direction although I would appreciate some concrete evidence that they both know and acknowlege feelings for each other. I love the show and all of the main characters -- I'm even beginning to believe that Gates will eventually loosen up and become one
I love Castle! The jealousy regarding the kiss was hilarious! Not only did Castle get it from Beckett but also from Ryan & Esposito. It's funny that Martha is trying to fix Castle up with a student from her class. He should have simply said no thanks, I'm waiting for Beckett. The writers have said a romantic relationship probably won't happen for another season. So in the meantime I will enjoy Nathan Fillion, who looks great no matter what others are complaining about, until that day comes. I can't wait for next weeks episode! I ain't afraid of no ghost!
Carolyn
October 18th, 2011 6:08 PM
Just love this show and don't analyze it to closely just enjoy it
David
October 18th, 2011 5:41 PM
I think I'm projecting what I would do here but in actual fact I'd have got Rick to confront the whole "I love you" issue. There was a Ep in S1 where Kate shoved Rick back against the wall, maybe S1-1? Which made me do a double take and think that there is a heck of a lot of potential for these two so I jumped online and strongly suggested to the producers of Castle that they find an expert in the subtle art of body language and flirting and really teach them how to maintain sexual tension in a subtle manner because to my eye all they are doing is sharing looks which in only about 30% of true flirting. I could go deeper into it but space is limited and I wanted to comment about other things on here.
RE farscape being a very romantic program have to disagree there was a point where Aeryn and John in s3-1 confessed their love and Areyn made the classic angst statement "I love you but we mustn't act on it", at that point I thought WTF!! and stopped watching farscape because I knew that t
Julia
October 18th, 2011 5:41 PM
I enjoyed the episode. i had to cover my mouth a few times from loud laughter. But i was NOT a fan of Kristin Lehman, she just didn't float mt boat. This episode was good but not my favorite. I'm very excited for the next episode! It has an x file feel to it... well at least i thought so from the preview, well maybe not really. but it will be great!
Blu Rank: Regular Character
October 18th, 2011 5:25 PM
Why is Nathan's weight such an issue? I can understand if it was so noticeable to the point of being worrisome (like McGee in NCIS) but it isn't. What difference does it make?
As a White Collar and Leverage fan, this episode was fun to watch. I loved the entire premise of the stolen art piece etc. It was fun seeing a jealous Kate and her coming to terms with her feelings, and subsequently Castle's awareness of her comingto terms with her feelings but not pressing matters either way. They both are in this inbetween stage that they understand but others (i.e Esposito and Martha) are curious about. The Elevator scene was fun and a classic. I too find myself completely accepting "Sir". It's nice having a boss who has the intimidation thing done and rocks the whole "being sent to the principal's office" when she calls anyone in. I'd love to see something involving Lainey more.
idw357
October 18th, 2011 12:22 PM
Did anyone notice the 3 second elevator scene homage to John Landis with the "Girl from Ipanema" playing in the background as the SWAT team rode up the hotel elevator?
Yes. In fact, I just posted your question and my comment a moment ago in which I said I was sure it was an homage, but couldn't remember what movie it was from. And just as I hit enter, I saw you'd mentioned John Landis. Fortunately, something screwed up, so it didn't actually post. So what movie is it? It's bugging me! Is it that one where they shoot the dog? (Damn, my mind is gone senile on me -- I can't think of the title).
And their relationship is something that is quite common in everyday life. all the baby steps, and the friendships, it is not a Hollywood pictured relationship that we are served nowadays.
BoreDUMB
October 18th, 2011 3:10 PM
The weight issue has been written all season. My theory; boredom of portraying such a swishy character has caught up with NF. Wasted talent, especially with all the action movies in need of a star. Hey if he was Captain America I've probably watched it by now. The Expendables 2 needs someone now that Mickey is out.
Concerning the show I had to stop after season 2,(use your yoda voice) painful it was.(Stop Voice) The dummying down of the reasoning was just insulting. Castle gets his House moment or someone utters just the right word.
scott
October 18th, 2011 2:03 PM
I wish Beckett would cut her hair.
Josie Leeds Rank: Guest Star
October 18th, 2011 1:39 PM
Since Castle always has his clothes on, frequently bolstered by a bulky kevlar vest, what's the difference if he puts on a few pounds? H'wood standards for BMI are ridiculous any way you look at it. YO! WRITERS! You have just about milked all of the sympathy/empathy/understanding you are going to get for the endless star-crossed lovers arc. You are going to have to put your money where your mouth is--just don't blow it like the fools on "Moonlighting" did. OH--I'm with David--Gates needs to GO--I don't care where as long as it's soon. Need a Captain with a personality and a connection to the officers.
Lynn
October 18th, 2011 1:35 PM
I really enjoyed this episode! It was light and funny and just entertaining. There is only so much you can put into a less than 45 min episode so not everybody will get screen time (I didn't see Lainey or Alexis). Either case, I come for pure entertainment and for me, this episode delivered!
I completely understand Martha trying to set up Castle, while she knows he has feelings for Beckett, she lives in the moment and he doesnt look like he's having much fun.
This episode also reminded me of White Collar and some of the music was Ocean's 11-esque.
Lots of one liners that were funny, the Jason Bateman comment, "that bag of botox", and the ride up in the elevator with the SWAT guys, MUZAK and all!!!!
I really liked the end when she told him the least the precinct could do was take him out to dinner. She was looking so uncomfortable and vulnerable, you know it was hard for her to take that first step and kind of "ask him out". As much as she used to do that before, now that she knows he loves her it adds a whole new layer she's just not comfortable with. So props to Beckett for doing it anyway! =)
Rick Scheuer Rank: Guest Star
October 18th, 2011 12:23 PM
Like others here have said, 'why is it complicated?' I don't really mind it - as this kind of thing happens on every show where there is sexual tension between the leading characters. It it were say, Fringe, they can go the entire distance, then stick the characters in separate universes. In Farscape (by FAR the most romantic show I've ever seen) split him into two identical (Castles)they can go the entire relationship distance with one guy, kill him, and then start all over again with the remaining guy.(which odd as it sounds, when well written and performed, can be enormously satisfying for a viewer).
Here, I like what I see because we get to watch Stana Katic show Kate's conflicted nature. Face it people, Kate Beckett is STUCK. Stuck in therapy, even. She's come to see Castle as a partner in every sense, sees the complete guy, knows he loves her, and still can't commit?
And Castle - who told Kate he loved her, suspects she heard that. When Beckett gives him permission to
idw357
October 18th, 2011 12:22 PM
Did anyone notice the 3 second elevator scene homage to John Landis with the "Girl from Ipanema" playing in the background as the SWAT team rode up the hotel elevator?
marsha
October 18th, 2011 11:40 AM
Castle, to me, is going in a circle they won't get out of. They really need to move the story forward, finally get C&B together while people still care, and go from there. I am losing interest and I was obsessed with this show for years.
Kayliej
October 18th, 2011 11:25 AM
Alright, I know we all want kate and rick together, but why trash him for kissing another woman? Kate has done nothing so far this season to make him think she wants to be with him at all. Have we forgot that she ignored him for 3 months after she was shot? Maybe it was good for her to feel that her spot was being threatnend and its not like he slept with the chick! He turned down marthas attempt at matchmaking, and kate told him to stall, its ricks style to use whatever hes got goung in his favor, and in this case it was his tongue! I personally loved her reactiom and im sure if espisito had seen it he would have tourtured her mercisilly for it. I thought it was a funny and damn decent episode. And Nathan is still cute as all get out so who cares if he expanded a little.
Novella
October 18th, 2011 11:01 AM
I loved this episode!
The only thing that is really bothering me, and I keep repeating in my head is "you know why it's complicated." WHY! I want to know why she thinks this is complicated. Frankly. I think we need more therapy sessions.
Alex Mathayes Rank: New User
October 18th, 2011 10:45 AM
this is what I got from the entire episode
Beckett is turning out to be a character who will not move ahead with her relationship with castle and will not even let him move on. Honestly its getting tired, frustrating and pathetic.
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
October 18th, 2011 7:38 AM
I'm not exactly sure why people care about Mr. Fillion's weight gain. It's not like he looks unhealthy - he looks like most normal 40-year-old men. Whether he puts on or loses weight doesn't make him any less of an actor, any less charming or funny, and certainly not less attractive (not to me, anyway). Oh Hollywood...honestly...
I'm torn on this episode. On the one hand, it's one of the funniest episodes they've had in a while in terms of Beckett/Castle's banter, Castle's reactions to things and the potshots the team would take at him. It was old school season 2ish Castle - I enjoyed that.
As for the plot - predictable. I knew there was no way the writers would make Castle throw away his chances with Beckett that easily, and we all know at this point that Kate would have been jealous. The whole episode seemed a bit contrived just to remind us of what's going on - they love each other, Beckett's not ready, Castle's waiting. WE KNOW, WE GET IT - can we PLEASE move on!!
I g
Rik
October 18th, 2011 6:29 AM
Was there a scene when the guest star wasn't in a dress that was just below her you-know-what and just above the tips of her breasts? Meanwhile Kate, who doesn't dress sultry, but laid back fashionable is in a turtle neck, and then a shirt with a tie on another day. Nice subtlety there writers. The whole episode came off as corny to me. It was a 45 minute buildup for her to tell Rick that "she doesn't steal something that belongs to someone else." I don't think that's the first time we've heard that line in some fashion in the show either, but I can't remember when it happened last.
@El - you are so right, I completely forgot about Nan getting killed!! Its only been a little while but True Blood seems like it was so long ago already.
I agree that it is a throwback to the way things were before, but don't you think Kate needs that to get herself back in the position she was when she was ready for Castle? When he went off with his ex to the Hamptons?
I dont think I was breathing for the entire end scene..... but when Serena said "you can't steal something that is already someone else's" my breathing returned. Very well written by the writers. They like to keep the tension at a high!
Castle: Katherine Houghton Beckett, will you marry me?
Rank: Guest Star
October 19th, 2011 5:00 AM
i love this ep!! Beckett finally express her jealousness of Castle's moment with another lady!! she's confused and angry with her shrink!! it's clearly that Castle was attracted to Kristin a little bit!! that's why he kissed her at the hotel!! we need more envious Beckett/Castle!!
October 19th, 2011 3:42 AM
The boys in the elevator scene killed me...
October 19th, 2011 3:38 AM
I for one was happy when finally seeing the kissing scene. They had previewed the kiss as if Rick was losing patience with Kate and had started to fall for the lady in the red dress. Instead we learned that he was just trying to protect Kate and Esposito. The part I loved the best was that instead of taking advantage of her being distracted and leaving, Kate made no attempt to do so and showed obvious distress at what she had just witnessed! And her reference to the kiss throughout the rest of the episode was obvious jealously -- YES! It even drove her to vent to her psychiatrist who let her know that her attempt to hide the fact that this was about her feelings for Castle was futile. I think we may be making baby steps in the right direction although I would appreciate some concrete evidence that they both know and acknowlege feelings for each other. I love the show and all of the main characters -- I'm even beginning to believe that Gates will eventually loosen up and become one
Rank: Guest Star
October 19th, 2011 1:07 AM
I love Castle! The jealousy regarding the kiss was hilarious! Not only did Castle get it from Beckett but also from Ryan & Esposito. It's funny that Martha is trying to fix Castle up with a student from her class. He should have simply said no thanks, I'm waiting for Beckett. The writers have said a romantic relationship probably won't happen for another season. So in the meantime I will enjoy Nathan Fillion, who looks great no matter what others are complaining about, until that day comes. I can't wait for next weeks episode! I ain't afraid of no ghost!
October 18th, 2011 6:08 PM
Just love this show and don't analyze it to closely just enjoy it
October 18th, 2011 5:41 PM
I think I'm projecting what I would do here but in actual fact I'd have got Rick to confront the whole "I love you" issue. There was a Ep in S1 where Kate shoved Rick back against the wall, maybe S1-1? Which made me do a double take and think that there is a heck of a lot of potential for these two so I jumped online and strongly suggested to the producers of Castle that they find an expert in the subtle art of body language and flirting and really teach them how to maintain sexual tension in a subtle manner because to my eye all they are doing is sharing looks which in only about 30% of true flirting. I could go deeper into it but space is limited and I wanted to comment about other things on here.
RE farscape being a very romantic program have to disagree there was a point where Aeryn and John in s3-1 confessed their love and Areyn made the classic angst statement "I love you but we mustn't act on it", at that point I thought WTF!! and stopped watching farscape because I knew that t
October 18th, 2011 5:41 PM
I enjoyed the episode. i had to cover my mouth a few times from loud laughter. But i was NOT a fan of Kristin Lehman, she just didn't float mt boat. This episode was good but not my favorite. I'm very excited for the next episode! It has an x file feel to it... well at least i thought so from the preview, well maybe not really. but it will be great!
Rank: Regular Character
October 18th, 2011 5:25 PM
Why is Nathan's weight such an issue? I can understand if it was so noticeable to the point of being worrisome (like McGee in NCIS) but it isn't. What difference does it make?
As a White Collar and Leverage fan, this episode was fun to watch. I loved the entire premise of the stolen art piece etc. It was fun seeing a jealous Kate and her coming to terms with her feelings, and subsequently Castle's awareness of her comingto terms with her feelings but not pressing matters either way. They both are in this inbetween stage that they understand but others (i.e Esposito and Martha) are curious about. The Elevator scene was fun and a classic. I too find myself completely accepting "Sir". It's nice having a boss who has the intimidation thing done and rocks the whole "being sent to the principal's office" when she calls anyone in. I'd love to see something involving Lainey more.
Rank: Guest Star
October 18th, 2011 4:25 PM
idw357
October 18th, 2011 12:22 PM
Did anyone notice the 3 second elevator scene homage to John Landis with the "Girl from Ipanema" playing in the background as the SWAT team rode up the hotel elevator?
Yes. In fact, I just posted your question and my comment a moment ago in which I said I was sure it was an homage, but couldn't remember what movie it was from. And just as I hit enter, I saw you'd mentioned John Landis. Fortunately, something screwed up, so it didn't actually post. So what movie is it? It's bugging me! Is it that one where they shoot the dog? (Damn, my mind is gone senile on me -- I can't think of the title).
Rank: New User
October 18th, 2011 3:29 PM
The episode was a tad confusing.
Why.the.bloody.hell.does.it.matter.if.Nathan.Fillion.gained.weight???
And their relationship is something that is quite common in everyday life. all the baby steps, and the friendships, it is not a Hollywood pictured relationship that we are served nowadays.
October 18th, 2011 3:10 PM
The weight issue has been written all season. My theory; boredom of portraying such a swishy character has caught up with NF. Wasted talent, especially with all the action movies in need of a star. Hey if he was Captain America I've probably watched it by now. The Expendables 2 needs someone now that Mickey is out.
Concerning the show I had to stop after season 2,(use your yoda voice) painful it was.(Stop Voice) The dummying down of the reasoning was just insulting. Castle gets his House moment or someone utters just the right word.
October 18th, 2011 2:03 PM
I wish Beckett would cut her hair.
Rank: Guest Star
October 18th, 2011 1:39 PM
Since Castle always has his clothes on, frequently bolstered by a bulky kevlar vest, what's the difference if he puts on a few pounds? H'wood standards for BMI are ridiculous any way you look at it. YO! WRITERS! You have just about milked all of the sympathy/empathy/understanding you are going to get for the endless star-crossed lovers arc. You are going to have to put your money where your mouth is--just don't blow it like the fools on "Moonlighting" did. OH--I'm with David--Gates needs to GO--I don't care where as long as it's soon. Need a Captain with a personality and a connection to the officers.
October 18th, 2011 1:35 PM
I really enjoyed this episode! It was light and funny and just entertaining. There is only so much you can put into a less than 45 min episode so not everybody will get screen time (I didn't see Lainey or Alexis). Either case, I come for pure entertainment and for me, this episode delivered!
I completely understand Martha trying to set up Castle, while she knows he has feelings for Beckett, she lives in the moment and he doesnt look like he's having much fun.
This episode also reminded me of White Collar and some of the music was Ocean's 11-esque.
Lots of one liners that were funny, the Jason Bateman comment, "that bag of botox", and the ride up in the elevator with the SWAT guys, MUZAK and all!!!!
A fun episode that literally had me LOLing!
Rank: Extra
October 18th, 2011 12:51 PM
I really liked the end when she told him the least the precinct could do was take him out to dinner. She was looking so uncomfortable and vulnerable, you know it was hard for her to take that first step and kind of "ask him out". As much as she used to do that before, now that she knows he loves her it adds a whole new layer she's just not comfortable with. So props to Beckett for doing it anyway! =)
Rank: Guest Star
October 18th, 2011 12:23 PM
Like others here have said, 'why is it complicated?' I don't really mind it - as this kind of thing happens on every show where there is sexual tension between the leading characters. It it were say, Fringe, they can go the entire distance, then stick the characters in separate universes. In Farscape (by FAR the most romantic show I've ever seen) split him into two identical (Castles)they can go the entire relationship distance with one guy, kill him, and then start all over again with the remaining guy.(which odd as it sounds, when well written and performed, can be enormously satisfying for a viewer).
Here, I like what I see because we get to watch Stana Katic show Kate's conflicted nature. Face it people, Kate Beckett is STUCK. Stuck in therapy, even. She's come to see Castle as a partner in every sense, sees the complete guy, knows he loves her, and still can't commit?
And Castle - who told Kate he loved her, suspects she heard that. When Beckett gives him permission to
October 18th, 2011 12:22 PM
Did anyone notice the 3 second elevator scene homage to John Landis with the "Girl from Ipanema" playing in the background as the SWAT team rode up the hotel elevator?
October 18th, 2011 11:40 AM
Castle, to me, is going in a circle they won't get out of. They really need to move the story forward, finally get C&B together while people still care, and go from there. I am losing interest and I was obsessed with this show for years.
October 18th, 2011 11:25 AM
Alright, I know we all want kate and rick together, but why trash him for kissing another woman? Kate has done nothing so far this season to make him think she wants to be with him at all. Have we forgot that she ignored him for 3 months after she was shot? Maybe it was good for her to feel that her spot was being threatnend and its not like he slept with the chick! He turned down marthas attempt at matchmaking, and kate told him to stall, its ricks style to use whatever hes got goung in his favor, and in this case it was his tongue! I personally loved her reactiom and im sure if espisito had seen it he would have tourtured her mercisilly for it. I thought it was a funny and damn decent episode. And Nathan is still cute as all get out so who cares if he expanded a little.
October 18th, 2011 11:01 AM
I loved this episode!
The only thing that is really bothering me, and I keep repeating in my head is "you know why it's complicated." WHY! I want to know why she thinks this is complicated. Frankly. I think we need more therapy sessions.
Rank: New User
October 18th, 2011 10:45 AM
this is what I got from the entire episode
Beckett is turning out to be a character who will not move ahead with her relationship with castle and will not even let him move on. Honestly its getting tired, frustrating and pathetic.
Rank: Regular Character
October 18th, 2011 7:38 AM
I'm not exactly sure why people care about Mr. Fillion's weight gain. It's not like he looks unhealthy - he looks like most normal 40-year-old men. Whether he puts on or loses weight doesn't make him any less of an actor, any less charming or funny, and certainly not less attractive (not to me, anyway). Oh Hollywood...honestly...
I'm torn on this episode. On the one hand, it's one of the funniest episodes they've had in a while in terms of Beckett/Castle's banter, Castle's reactions to things and the potshots the team would take at him. It was old school season 2ish Castle - I enjoyed that.
As for the plot - predictable. I knew there was no way the writers would make Castle throw away his chances with Beckett that easily, and we all know at this point that Kate would have been jealous. The whole episode seemed a bit contrived just to remind us of what's going on - they love each other, Beckett's not ready, Castle's waiting. WE KNOW, WE GET IT - can we PLEASE move on!!
I g
October 18th, 2011 6:29 AM
Was there a scene when the guest star wasn't in a dress that was just below her you-know-what and just above the tips of her breasts? Meanwhile Kate, who doesn't dress sultry, but laid back fashionable is in a turtle neck, and then a shirt with a tie on another day. Nice subtlety there writers. The whole episode came off as corny to me. It was a 45 minute buildup for her to tell Rick that "she doesn't steal something that belongs to someone else." I don't think that's the first time we've heard that line in some fashion in the show either, but I can't remember when it happened last.
Rank: Staff Member
October 18th, 2011 6:13 AM
@El - you are so right, I completely forgot about Nan getting killed!! Its only been a little while but True Blood seems like it was so long ago already.
I agree that it is a throwback to the way things were before, but don't you think Kate needs that to get herself back in the position she was when she was ready for Castle? When he went off with his ex to the Hamptons?
Rank: Extra
October 18th, 2011 4:23 AM
I dont think I was breathing for the entire end scene..... but when Serena said "you can't steal something that is already someone else's" my breathing returned. Very well written by the writers. They like to keep the tension at a high!