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Jane: This is Red John. Lisbon: How can you tell? Jane: Because when it's him I can feel it.
March 9th, 2012 8:24 PM
I'd believe that darcy was the one working with Red john before i would think jane is.
Rank: Recurring Character
March 9th, 2012 7:00 PM
Jane can't turn out to be an evil bad guy (being a con man et al makes him interesting, like "bad boy", not bad). The simple reason is that it would ruin the millions of dollars they would all get a piece of in syndication. That doesn't mean they won't try to play games with the fans for the fun of the twists -- Simon Baker has pretty much said as much about the twists in interviews. Still, I would think they would have to do something new each time (meaning wouldn't Wainright being RJ's guy be a repeat of Bosco's secretary and wouldn't Darcy being killed or driven insane be a repeat of the psychic who went crazy?).
March 9th, 2012 6:19 PM
the most interesting moment to me was when darcy told jane that he was a cruel man. jane holds up a mirror to people's faces and they don't often like what they see. he asked to do the reading to put her in a one-down position. telling someone they're an inept seducer cuts very deep. and the narcissistic blow had her reeling. she pretty much hates him. of course, that's what makes jane so powerful and beguiling. when he uses his powers for you, it's thrilling. when he uses them against you, it's pretty devastating. bruno heller is a great writer. he makes some of the other writers on the show seem like they're playing checkers to his three-dimensional chess.
March 9th, 2012 6:17 PM
Jane is definitely not Red John, nor is he a disciple. Red John is attracted to Jane as an extraordinarily able opponent. RJ loves the competition. Jane remains obsessed with getting revenge, so he continues the competition. When Jane did that reading of Darcy, most of what he said also applied to his own life, as shown by the expression on Jane's face when he finished. (What a GREAT face actor Simon Baker is!!) Now that it is known that Jane did not kill the real Red John, I expect RJ will murder someone fairly close to the CBI team to keep the chase going - and MAYBE make the murder look like Jane was protecting RJ, as Darcy claims. I LOVE this series! Great story, great acting, the works!
Rank: Regular Character
March 9th, 2012 5:31 PM
I thought before that Wainwright might be one of RJ's disciples, RJ always has to have a connection close. After last night, I think that Darcy could be a RJ disciple, but she may also think its someone in CBI, thinking it is Jane, but its really Wainwright. I love how the writers like to lead people to different conclusions, makes it interesting. I don't think that Jane is RJ or one of his disciples. Unless this is the end of the show, which I have not heard anything about that. For those who believe this, then why would they have someone suspect Jane as being RJ at this point? Nope, not buying it.
March 9th, 2012 4:47 PM
the most interesting moment for me was when darcy told jane he was a very cruel man. he always holds a mirror up to people's faces and not everyone likes what they see. telling her that she's an inept seducer definitely made her an enemy. quite a narcissistic blow. bruno heller is a great writer. he makes some of the other writers look like they're playing checkers to his three-dimensional chess. bruno also knows what a fine piece of horse flesh he has in simon baker so he made the most of his beauty in every shot. half of jane's power is that his looks burn your corneas while his wit cuts you to the quick. you can see why the french love patrick jane. he really has a jean paul belmondo quality.
March 9th, 2012 4:17 PM
Jane is not Red John. It's imposible Jane to be RJ but Darcy wants them to believe it. Is she RJ friend?
March 9th, 2012 3:42 PM
jane is red john
March 9th, 2012 1:27 PM
If the CBI boss trend stands, Wainwright should be played out by the season finale.
Minelli - 208
Hightower - 316
Wainwright - 424?
March 9th, 2012 11:48 AM
I dont believe jane is red john nor jane has a brother or any family relation. Darcy i believe has connection to red john. last nights episode it seemed jane hit a topic to her that almost broke in tears. I think she has something to do with Red john. not just a fbi agent. think about it red john has used woman before in the past. remember red john had a woman working in the CBI and literally spied on Jane's team. Going bak to season 2. What if darcy is related to red john maybe father or lover and shes here to mess around with Jane. So thts my theory.
March 9th, 2012 11:18 AM
It aired where I live too, it was good. I really don't like Agent Darcy, I think she is very obsessive about Jane. I kind of wondered if Wainright was somehow involved with RJ?? But maybe the others are right and he will be the next to be killed off, especially if he has another show already somewhere. I don't wish ill of anyone, but after the end of the show last night and Agent Darcy's talk with Wainright, I wished RJ would take out Darcy...
March 9th, 2012 11:06 AM
@studentoftrivia - That is very true. Even if Agent Darcy told the police that Jane didn't kill RJ, he's already been acquitted and cannot be tried again. Once that file on RJ is reopened, it would be under CBI's jurisdiction, and any local police forces where the murders were committed. I was even puzzled as to why the FBI was involved in the murder of the week. There was no reason Agent Darcy should have been investigating that case.
March 9th, 2012 10:54 AM
First of all, when does the FBI come in on a murder case that is not terrorism related? Darcy is the thorn in Jane's side. She will poke at him until he unravels or R.J. kills her. Lisbon is really fearful for his sanity and Darcy telling Wainright that Jane is a psychopath, whihc he had already ascertained for himself, brought a quick smile to his lips until he realized how earnest Darcy was. His promise of helping her in any way assures viewers that he will possibly be R.J. next victim, especially since the actor (Rady) playing him is on to another project soon.
March 9th, 2012 10:35 AM
There is no connection between Red John and Jane. Darcy is a terrible FBI agent,I think she was jealous because Jane got the murderer. I hope she doesnt cause trouble for Jane.Wainwright was much too fast agreeing with Darcy. I loved Lisbon's happiness at talking to Jane and going to help him.
March 9th, 2012 10:11 AM
If Agent Darcy was a disciple of RJ, she wouldn't have spent so much time investigating Patrick's movements or the blind girl. *sigh* If this ends up like that female mindreader who is now in a mental institution, it's going to feel quite repetitive. I thought Wainwright's discussion w/Darcy at the end of the episode was interesting. He may end up firing Patrick to protect the CBI in general. If Darcy is going after Patrick, he won't want Patrick to bring down his department.
March 9th, 2012 9:03 AM
My roommate and I think that Agent Darcy is a disciple of Red John and she is trying to throw suspicion on Patrick.....
March 9th, 2012 8:23 AM
What if Red John is Jane brother that would be cool
March 9th, 2012 8:13 AM
No. I absolutely don't believe that Jane is collaborating with Red John, and I certainly don't believe that he IS Red John. I can imagine that Red John simply enjoys playing with him, and the questions Darcy asked are clearly those Jane can't answer, either. I think RJ savors this power. He decides if and when he goes after Jane or the team, or if he spares them.
But I can imagine that RJ somehow thinks there is a connection between him and Jane through the past and the ensuing chase. Jane is his favorite plaything, and he almost wants him on his heels.
So I'm a little worried for Darcy now: she just became a lot less likeable to the audience, and what will Red John do with her? Will he simply enjoy Darcy's hunt for Jane? Or will he dispose of her when she annoys him too much? Thrilled to see what will happen now...
March 9th, 2012 7:05 AM
the next episode already aired where i live....it actually was on the hour before this ....
March 9th, 2012 4:49 AM
i really hope there is no connection between jayne and red john think it would ruin a good show.