House Finale Review: Enjoy Yourself Comments (Page 3)
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jeff
May 22nd, 2012 11:31 AM
@Alex is right.....given that House at least reads Portugese ( the exotic STD ep), how hard would it be for him to set up shop in Sao Paolo?
Joe
May 22nd, 2012 11:08 AM
The line that keeps coming back to me is, "I switched the dental records."
He switched the dental records.
HE SWITCHED THE DENTAL RECORDS!?
To do this he would have to a) know where the junkie's dental records were kept and b) switch them with his own before the coroner got to them. And he'd have to do it without anyone seeing him, because he's supposed to be dead, remember? He also couldn't have done it in advance because he couldn't have known he would want to switch places with the patient. Boy, dental records in this country must be a very low priority in terms of privacy. It seems just anybody can steal them.
What a lame, throwaway explanation for an all-important plot twist. How lazy this show became. Just awful.
Somewhere wedged in the storyline was a Good Samaritan message about being denied being bailed out by 1.) Foreman - to the right thing. 2.) Wilson - to do it for the selfish reason. But both denying him. The Samaritans, existed in his head kept popping up, until he came finally to Cameron's reverence, representing his Angel of Mercy.
Analogy #2: Stephen Moffat's Sherlock death - Sherlock realizes before he 'falls' is that all the assassin needs to see is 'A' body freefall, so he grabs Moriarty's corpse and places his coat and then morbidly drops him down; where a Distraught and concussed Watson witnesses what he thinks is Sherlock.
Analogy #3: Doctor Who's destined death - The Doctor, knowing future events in an instant, he sets out the variables to play out that criteria of his 'death' without anyone knowing it was the Telsalink.
nylaphx
May 22nd, 2012 9:50 AM
I thought it was an excellent wrap up to House, he finally grows up and the very last instant when faced with the reality of his only real "person" (borrowing from Grey's here) dying he decides to give up everything for Wilson.
I love that he let Foreman in on the truth with the id badge, and as far as him wanting to die, I don't think that was the case. The patient was a junkie, he intrigued House with the idea of "finding God" through heroin and with Wilson soon to "meet God" House wanted to figure out this puzzle to see if he could find God as his patient said, to know if it was eternal nothingness of not.
Once he figured out the puzzle, the drug didn't do what he expected, he never really wanted to die, he just wanted to know what it was like. House went on to the next puzzle, how to get the hell out of there and still be able to live his last few months with Wilson.
I love the riding off into the sunset, and given House is House, I don't see them every catching up to him
With all these rants, I'll take a pick and digress:
1.) House's 'death' was marked to compare to Sherlock Holme's death in the 6th novel, if I remember, when Sherlock and Moriarty both fell into a waterfall. He's survival was improvised from previous events that cumulated to his magical revival.
Analogy #1: Movie - Sherlock grabbed Mycroff's prototype air breather to survive the plunge into waters with Moriarty.
Brian
May 22nd, 2012 9:19 AM
neonglo: You are mistaken on this. The one thing you seemed to have completely missed is that the patient that you say "had agreed to take the fall" did this when he was told he was going to die. House then found out and told him that he was going to LIVE. Look at the scene again. So this patient, after being told he was going to live, certainly did not agree to "die" for House after that point - that would make no sense.
It actually happened as Jessica said - House came up with this "plan" at the last minute, and all the "clues" pointed towards House wanting to take heroin and die.
Marta
May 22nd, 2012 8:44 AM
I get it now :))
thanks Jessica!
And I must say I am not that interested in how the fire started, who started it and all that stuff. I love House, always felt bad for him couse under that mask he was just miserable. And I was so happy to see him make a huge step forward in his life. Yes, life. Becouse that is what he choose... No more puzzles, he is gonna go on and try to be happy!
Jamie
May 22nd, 2012 7:40 AM
Was this the greatest finale ever? No, but as a fan of the character and the show I found it completely satisfying. House was forced to face his worst enemy -- himself -- as he's done before, but this time it was in a life and death situation, and he decided to live, but the only way he could do that was by killing Gregory House and beginning a new life. Those of you who feel that he acted selfishly by not turning himself in -- his act of curing the patient after he had offered to take the fall for House is a pretty selfless act in my book, and it showed House that he had it in him to be a better person. He ultimately gave up his "life" for his friend -- there is no greater love than that, paraphrasing the New Testament verse, which I find very ironic coming from Shore the atheist!
Clue 3. Wilson tells House he won't take the fall because it's time for House to stop expecting someone else to bail him out. Image Stacey tells House he has been depending on Wilson to be House's moral side all these years, but that's ending. House is forced to be moral, because he won't have Wilson for that. Wilson, seeing House on the steps at the end, protests House will lose his career, everything. House calmly asks Wilson what he wants to do, because he's accepted the sacrifice. FEEL BETTER?
Jessica, you feel robbed because you completely misunderstand what happened. Clues: 1.Patient told House he would take the fall because he has nothing left to lose. House is amazed and says that by dying the patient can give what he never did in life. It give him the idea to "die" and sacrifice his career and probably years in prison just so he can spend the next months with Wilson. 2.House woke up and sees syringes and has been missing for two days. The patient told him he felt God while on heroin. House tried it. It didn't work, so now he's scared to death because he is about to lose everything in this scheme. The dental records are already switched - it can't be done after the fake death. The fire has been set.
Emma
May 22nd, 2012 6:45 AM
Edmond, everybody can live in everybody's mind. I loved the episode, it redeemed a lot of the season for me (I'd stopped watching 10 mins into "Blowing the Whistle" and only caught up last night). It was realistic (at least, if, like me, you're not a doctor) and at the same time optimistic, which can be a rare mix, especially for this show. The end reminded me of the end to One Foot in the Grave, which also ended in association with death, but went out on an upbeat note in its final scene.
"Everybody knows that everybody dies...but not every day." - River Song, Doctor Who
Such is life. You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need. :) I'll be buying the S8 DVD like I bought the other 7 - the only other series I have all of is Buffy. House is in good company.
JessicaClackum
May 22nd, 2012 5:50 AM
NeonGlo, are you saying that House set the fire himself? Patient gets out of the hospital, House is suicidal, goes to him for heroin, the patient overdoses, House sets the warehouse on fire to stage his death but winds up wanting to actually kill himself anyway? Makes no sense. I don't believe House started the fire, I don't believe he intended to stage his own death, at that point he was already planning to kill himself. It was luck that he eventually got out of the warehouse and back to the hospital, then probably decided to switch dental info. It's the manipulative House taking advantage of the opportunity.
JessicaClackum
May 22nd, 2012 5:45 AM
Ooops here's part II of my post! I GOT CUT OFF! It bothers me that a ridiculous cancer plot was used to bring about this finale. It bothers me that last night they brought back characters who weren't necessary to the story. Dominika? Seriously? Nolan? I still don't get his role in this. I'm hurt, I don't feel closure, I feel like I was robbed. Hugh was great and episodes that explore his psyche are awesome and it was the ONLY thing I liked about this episode. Everything else seemed hokey and trivial. Once again just like in the end of Season 7 it seems like Shore boxed himself into a corner and took the easy way out. I can't believe this is the same creative mind that gave us Help Me, House's Head, All In and Autopsy.
JessicaClackum
May 22nd, 2012 5:41 AM
Lisa, you make some good points. I struggled last night with the House who wanted to leave that warehouse and change his life and the House we got at the end, the same old House. House never sacrifices self, he's said that before. But this time he did. He sacrificed his identity, everything he owns, and practicing medicine (the one thing he had that he always said he could count on was his intellect) just so Wilson wouldn't be alone those five months. I'm angry though it came to this. Why? Because of some idiotic writing about flushing tickets down a toilet and fingerprints on "wet" tickets that could send him back to prison. That was so stupid. So my anger goes back to that episode, not to mention that the treatment regarding Wilson was so unbelievable it had real-life cancer docs shaking their heads. For a show that prides itself in believable medicine, it was a sham.
It bothers me that a ridiculous cancer plotline was used to bring about this finale It bothers me that Season 8 su
cont.: I'm just not sure how he set the fire if he was stoned...
BTW; what an amazing insight that House has been depending on Wilson be his better self, his Jimminy Cricket. With Wilson dying, House has to become that better self, which is making him whole at last. wow.
Thank you, Lisa; great review. I was thinking the same things. Did you get the Reichenbach Falls parallel? Sherlock Holmes also faked his death. Also I loved that, this last time that House says, "I can change", which he said to Cuddy and others before, he finally could.
As for how he ended up with the patient in the burning house (metaphor?): I think House did try the heroin (he was gone 2 days). The patient had agreed to take the fall, so he was willing to be House's corpse stand-in. (The dental records were already switched; there was no way to do it afterwards.)
But even with the plan in place, House couldn't go against his lifelong selfish instincts, hence all the arguing images. He didn't feel God via heroin as the patient did, he didn't know how he could go on after losing everything. But the clue also came from the patient, who had nothing left to lose. House finally accepted that's a good time to make a difference. I'm just not sure how he set the fire if he wa
JessicaClackum
May 22nd, 2012 5:31 AM
Marta...in regards to Foreman knowing House faked his death, remember earlier in the episode Foreman is on the floor trying to fix a wobbly table leg. Later, after the "funeral" he goes back in his office and sees something on the floor under the table leg, it's House's hospital ID that clearly wasn't there before. He knew House had come back and placed it there himself. That's when Foreman realizes he's alive and laughs to himself.
Kayliej
May 22nd, 2012 5:02 AM
Loved the shout out to dads poets society, was telling my brother about it after that scene. I thought it was very nice to have them riding off together in the end. Nobody (actually) died, no tradegies, he "sacraficed" himself for wilson and wilson doesn't have to be without house in his hours of need. I didn't catch forman figuring it out though
Marta
May 22nd, 2012 4:55 AM
I don't get this part of the review: How do you know Forman realized House faked his own death?
Alex
May 22nd, 2012 3:48 AM
@jay
That's what a beautiful about this finale. Nothing matters... Because Gregory House is dead. It's a new person.
RajBauer
May 22nd, 2012 2:13 AM
Loved the finale and I am going to miss the show but I am glad they went out with a good ending. I too wasnt shaken up by the funeral, I didnt by that House was dead but when they were riding off and we saw the montages for all the characters I could feel the lump in my throat that it is really ending and they did get me in the end. Also as a final note I liked that they referenced dead's poets society as Wilson was the star of that movie.
jay
May 22nd, 2012 2:07 AM
wth!!
never finished houses father storyline, never even explained how he got to the burning building, why it was on fire, why the patient was dead ect. thirteen had literally one line, would have liked to see how her story ended. of course park and adams had no closure because they were barely even characters in the first place. i did like seeing chase promoted to the head of diagnostics, but overall i was hugely dissapointed with the ending
House : From what I hear, nothing black is tiny. Except your penis.
May 22nd, 2012 11:31 AM
@Alex is right.....given that House at least reads Portugese ( the exotic STD ep), how hard would it be for him to set up shop in Sao Paolo?
May 22nd, 2012 11:08 AM
The line that keeps coming back to me is, "I switched the dental records."
He switched the dental records.
HE SWITCHED THE DENTAL RECORDS!?
To do this he would have to a) know where the junkie's dental records were kept and b) switch them with his own before the coroner got to them. And he'd have to do it without anyone seeing him, because he's supposed to be dead, remember? He also couldn't have done it in advance because he couldn't have known he would want to switch places with the patient. Boy, dental records in this country must be a very low priority in terms of privacy. It seems just anybody can steal them.
What a lame, throwaway explanation for an all-important plot twist. How lazy this show became. Just awful.
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 10:20 AM
... And so I think, he decided that he needed to Change for the mercy of Wilson. He's life for Wilson's remaining happiness.
Everybody Lives and Everybody Dies, but the opposite of death is birth. i.e. A new Gregory House.
2 cents of preachiness.
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 10:13 AM
Somewhere wedged in the storyline was a Good Samaritan message about being denied being bailed out by 1.) Foreman - to the right thing. 2.) Wilson - to do it for the selfish reason. But both denying him. The Samaritans, existed in his head kept popping up, until he came finally to Cameron's reverence, representing his Angel of Mercy.
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 9:56 AM
Analogy #2: Stephen Moffat's Sherlock death - Sherlock realizes before he 'falls' is that all the assassin needs to see is 'A' body freefall, so he grabs Moriarty's corpse and places his coat and then morbidly drops him down; where a Distraught and concussed Watson witnesses what he thinks is Sherlock.
Analogy #3: Doctor Who's destined death - The Doctor, knowing future events in an instant, he sets out the variables to play out that criteria of his 'death' without anyone knowing it was the Telsalink.
May 22nd, 2012 9:50 AM
I thought it was an excellent wrap up to House, he finally grows up and the very last instant when faced with the reality of his only real "person" (borrowing from Grey's here) dying he decides to give up everything for Wilson.
I love that he let Foreman in on the truth with the id badge, and as far as him wanting to die, I don't think that was the case. The patient was a junkie, he intrigued House with the idea of "finding God" through heroin and with Wilson soon to "meet God" House wanted to figure out this puzzle to see if he could find God as his patient said, to know if it was eternal nothingness of not.
Once he figured out the puzzle, the drug didn't do what he expected, he never really wanted to die, he just wanted to know what it was like. House went on to the next puzzle, how to get the hell out of there and still be able to live his last few months with Wilson.
I love the riding off into the sunset, and given House is House, I don't see them every catching up to him
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 9:49 AM
With all these rants, I'll take a pick and digress:
1.) House's 'death' was marked to compare to Sherlock Holme's death in the 6th novel, if I remember, when Sherlock and Moriarty both fell into a waterfall. He's survival was improvised from previous events that cumulated to his magical revival.
Analogy #1: Movie - Sherlock grabbed Mycroff's prototype air breather to survive the plunge into waters with Moriarty.
May 22nd, 2012 9:19 AM
neonglo: You are mistaken on this. The one thing you seemed to have completely missed is that the patient that you say "had agreed to take the fall" did this when he was told he was going to die. House then found out and told him that he was going to LIVE. Look at the scene again. So this patient, after being told he was going to live, certainly did not agree to "die" for House after that point - that would make no sense.
It actually happened as Jessica said - House came up with this "plan" at the last minute, and all the "clues" pointed towards House wanting to take heroin and die.
May 22nd, 2012 8:44 AM
I get it now :))
thanks Jessica!
And I must say I am not that interested in how the fire started, who started it and all that stuff. I love House, always felt bad for him couse under that mask he was just miserable. And I was so happy to see him make a huge step forward in his life. Yes, life. Becouse that is what he choose... No more puzzles, he is gonna go on and try to be happy!
May 22nd, 2012 7:40 AM
Was this the greatest finale ever? No, but as a fan of the character and the show I found it completely satisfying. House was forced to face his worst enemy -- himself -- as he's done before, but this time it was in a life and death situation, and he decided to live, but the only way he could do that was by killing Gregory House and beginning a new life. Those of you who feel that he acted selfishly by not turning himself in -- his act of curing the patient after he had offered to take the fall for House is a pretty selfless act in my book, and it showed House that he had it in him to be a better person. He ultimately gave up his "life" for his friend -- there is no greater love than that, paraphrasing the New Testament verse, which I find very ironic coming from Shore the atheist!
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 6:57 AM
Clue 3. Wilson tells House he won't take the fall because it's time for House to stop expecting someone else to bail him out. Image Stacey tells House he has been depending on Wilson to be House's moral side all these years, but that's ending. House is forced to be moral, because he won't have Wilson for that. Wilson, seeing House on the steps at the end, protests House will lose his career, everything. House calmly asks Wilson what he wants to do, because he's accepted the sacrifice. FEEL BETTER?
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 6:48 AM
Jessica, you feel robbed because you completely misunderstand what happened. Clues: 1.Patient told House he would take the fall because he has nothing left to lose. House is amazed and says that by dying the patient can give what he never did in life. It give him the idea to "die" and sacrifice his career and probably years in prison just so he can spend the next months with Wilson. 2.House woke up and sees syringes and has been missing for two days. The patient told him he felt God while on heroin. House tried it. It didn't work, so now he's scared to death because he is about to lose everything in this scheme. The dental records are already switched - it can't be done after the fake death. The fire has been set.
May 22nd, 2012 6:45 AM
Edmond, everybody can live in everybody's mind. I loved the episode, it redeemed a lot of the season for me (I'd stopped watching 10 mins into "Blowing the Whistle" and only caught up last night). It was realistic (at least, if, like me, you're not a doctor) and at the same time optimistic, which can be a rare mix, especially for this show. The end reminded me of the end to One Foot in the Grave, which also ended in association with death, but went out on an upbeat note in its final scene.
"Everybody knows that everybody dies...but not every day." - River Song, Doctor Who
Such is life. You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need. :) I'll be buying the S8 DVD like I bought the other 7 - the only other series I have all of is Buffy. House is in good company.
May 22nd, 2012 5:50 AM
NeonGlo, are you saying that House set the fire himself? Patient gets out of the hospital, House is suicidal, goes to him for heroin, the patient overdoses, House sets the warehouse on fire to stage his death but winds up wanting to actually kill himself anyway? Makes no sense. I don't believe House started the fire, I don't believe he intended to stage his own death, at that point he was already planning to kill himself. It was luck that he eventually got out of the warehouse and back to the hospital, then probably decided to switch dental info. It's the manipulative House taking advantage of the opportunity.
May 22nd, 2012 5:45 AM
Ooops here's part II of my post! I GOT CUT OFF! It bothers me that a ridiculous cancer plot was used to bring about this finale. It bothers me that last night they brought back characters who weren't necessary to the story. Dominika? Seriously? Nolan? I still don't get his role in this. I'm hurt, I don't feel closure, I feel like I was robbed. Hugh was great and episodes that explore his psyche are awesome and it was the ONLY thing I liked about this episode. Everything else seemed hokey and trivial. Once again just like in the end of Season 7 it seems like Shore boxed himself into a corner and took the easy way out. I can't believe this is the same creative mind that gave us Help Me, House's Head, All In and Autopsy.
May 22nd, 2012 5:41 AM
Lisa, you make some good points. I struggled last night with the House who wanted to leave that warehouse and change his life and the House we got at the end, the same old House. House never sacrifices self, he's said that before. But this time he did. He sacrificed his identity, everything he owns, and practicing medicine (the one thing he had that he always said he could count on was his intellect) just so Wilson wouldn't be alone those five months. I'm angry though it came to this. Why? Because of some idiotic writing about flushing tickets down a toilet and fingerprints on "wet" tickets that could send him back to prison. That was so stupid. So my anger goes back to that episode, not to mention that the treatment regarding Wilson was so unbelievable it had real-life cancer docs shaking their heads. For a show that prides itself in believable medicine, it was a sham.
It bothers me that a ridiculous cancer plotline was used to bring about this finale It bothers me that Season 8 su
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 5:39 AM
cont.: I'm just not sure how he set the fire if he was stoned...
BTW; what an amazing insight that House has been depending on Wilson be his better self, his Jimminy Cricket. With Wilson dying, House has to become that better self, which is making him whole at last. wow.
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 5:35 AM
Thank you, Lisa; great review. I was thinking the same things. Did you get the Reichenbach Falls parallel? Sherlock Holmes also faked his death. Also I loved that, this last time that House says, "I can change", which he said to Cuddy and others before, he finally could.
As for how he ended up with the patient in the burning house (metaphor?): I think House did try the heroin (he was gone 2 days). The patient had agreed to take the fall, so he was willing to be House's corpse stand-in. (The dental records were already switched; there was no way to do it afterwards.)
But even with the plan in place, House couldn't go against his lifelong selfish instincts, hence all the arguing images. He didn't feel God via heroin as the patient did, he didn't know how he could go on after losing everything. But the clue also came from the patient, who had nothing left to lose. House finally accepted that's a good time to make a difference. I'm just not sure how he set the fire if he wa
May 22nd, 2012 5:31 AM
Marta...in regards to Foreman knowing House faked his death, remember earlier in the episode Foreman is on the floor trying to fix a wobbly table leg. Later, after the "funeral" he goes back in his office and sees something on the floor under the table leg, it's House's hospital ID that clearly wasn't there before. He knew House had come back and placed it there himself. That's when Foreman realizes he's alive and laughs to himself.
May 22nd, 2012 5:02 AM
Loved the shout out to dads poets society, was telling my brother about it after that scene. I thought it was very nice to have them riding off together in the end. Nobody (actually) died, no tradegies, he "sacraficed" himself for wilson and wilson doesn't have to be without house in his hours of need. I didn't catch forman figuring it out though
May 22nd, 2012 4:55 AM
I don't get this part of the review: How do you know Forman realized House faked his own death?
May 22nd, 2012 3:48 AM
@jay
That's what a beautiful about this finale. Nothing matters... Because Gregory House is dead. It's a new person.
May 22nd, 2012 2:13 AM
Loved the finale and I am going to miss the show but I am glad they went out with a good ending. I too wasnt shaken up by the funeral, I didnt by that House was dead but when they were riding off and we saw the montages for all the characters I could feel the lump in my throat that it is really ending and they did get me in the end. Also as a final note I liked that they referenced dead's poets society as Wilson was the star of that movie.
May 22nd, 2012 2:07 AM
wth!!
never finished houses father storyline, never even explained how he got to the burning building, why it was on fire, why the patient was dead ect. thirteen had literally one line, would have liked to see how her story ended. of course park and adams had no closure because they were barely even characters in the first place. i did like seeing chase promoted to the head of diagnostics, but overall i was hugely dissapointed with the ending
Rank: Extra
May 22nd, 2012 2:02 AM
"Everybody Lies..." So I choose to believe that the series never ends.
"Everybody Lives... in my mind"