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Castle Round Table: "After the Storm"

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What happened "After the Storm?" We all found out on the Castle Season 5 premiere.

In this return edition of the TV Fanatic Round Table, staff writers Christine Orlando and Jim Garner have partnered with our friends at the Castle fan forum The 12th, as readers Teresa and Bobbie join in this week to decide whether Rick and Kate's new relationship should be kept a secret and how long before our favorite bromance gets back together...

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What was your favorite scene from the premiere?
Teresa: My favorite scene was them falling out of the bed. When Rick heard Martha's voice. I loved the popup of them both with Kate holding the pillow which in a few minutes later threw at Rick's head while she was hiding in the closet!! Too Funny!!

Bobbie: My favorite scene was when Kate was overwhelmed by the realization that she would never be safe and she stepped right into Castle's arms for support. That move spoke to me of the total commitment she had made to him and how willing he was to protect her. It was beautiful!

Jim: I loved Kate smacking the senator in the face with the gun and telling him that when he looks at the scar it will leave to remember her. Talk about one gutsy woman - WOW.

Carla:  I agree with Jim. Kate was awesome in that scene with the Senator. Another favorite was the combination of Castle having Beckett hide from his family, her getting upset, and then her wanting Castle to hide from Ryan. That was classic Castle/Beckett humor and banter. Loved it.

Christine: There were so many! I'll go with the opening scene. Rick's hesitation as he makes sure she's really in this with him and Kate's shy smile were just perfect. My only complaint is that it just made me want more!

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Should Rick and Kate keep their relationship a secret?
Teresa: No, I personally think their family and friends will be relieved that they finally got there heads together. But outside of them, No they should not know since it will affect how well Rick and Kate can work together. Personal relationships are frowned upon.

Bobbie: I like the idea of them keeping their relationship a secret for a bit. It enhances the preciousness of it all and also gives them time to explore each other - in so many ways :)

Jim: It will be fun for an episode or two, but after that it's going to become like watching some teen high school show. Maybe they can rename it Castle 90210 if that happens.

Carla:  For now, yes. They should enjoy what they finally have together and figure out what it all means before letting others in. Plus, it will be fun to watch them keep it a secret. I expect it will be out within the first week though. Neither of them can keep a secret.

Christine: I agree with Bobbie. It makes it more intimate and opens up so many opportunities for comedic moments and misunderstandings. For a short while, this could be a lot of fun.

Take a guess: Who will be the first to figure out they are together?
Teresa: The person who might learn their secret first is Martha or Esposito. The reason is Martha pops up in the most unusual times therefore she might catch them. Esposito is a good detective and he heard them talking in the building. He will notice small differences. So it depends on luck with Martha or skill with Esposito. I betting on skill over luck!

Bobbie: I have to go with Martha being the first to figure out they're together. She's always been very in tune to Castle's emotions and she understands his devotion to Kate.

Jim: Lanie. She and Kate are too close of friends for her not to figure it out pretty damn quick when Kate doesn't give details on the latest guy. Then again, Espo may already suspect.

Carla:  Good question. They are friends with detectives and Castle has a very intuitive family. It could be anyone or actually it probably will be everyone!

Christine: I'm rooting for a Martha. I just love the relationship between her and Castle. She's the one person he confides in and I can't to have him talk about Kate with his mom.

How long will it take for Esposito to forgive Ryan?
Teresa: Esposito will work with Ryan only grudgingly. The bromance is gone for the moment. I suspect for a fairly long time too. At least one-quarter of the season

Bobbie:  Because I read every spoiler possible, I know that Ryan and Espo will be on the outs for a few episodes. I'm guessing episode 4 should see them back to being loyal partners. I'm glad that show creator Andrew Marlowe is taking his time on this because it validates what happened in the finale so well. That was a serious falling out and it shouldn't be overcome without some time and effort.

Jim: The bromance will be back on track once Espo is off suspension and they get into the thick of it again.

Carla:  A couple puppy dog looks from Ryan, that's all it will take.

Christine: Obviously it's going to take a while. I mean, Esposito just threatened to break Ryan's arm and I think he meant it. There are some serious trust issues that need to be rebuilt before we get our dynamic duo back.

Were you happy with the way they tied up Kate's mother's murder storyline?
Teresa: Yes, I was very satisfied. The Dragon is identified and neutralized and Kate did not go to jail for shooting him.

Bobbie: I was very pleased with the level of closure on Johana's murder case. It removes the target from Kate's back and allows her to flourish in her new relationship but it also left it open for further development if the writer's choose to pursue it. I loved an empowered Kate in that confrontation scene! Stana knocked it out of the park!

Jim: I don't think it fully wrapped up, I suspect we could see the Senator again, after all Kate didn't bring him to justice - this time. But overall I am happy that we now have all the answers to why her mom was killed and it got Kate and Rick together, so that's a big win - right?

Carla:  Yes. In the big picture, it makes sense what happened, why people were killed, but I don't think it is quite over yet. The Senator won't back down forever.

Christine: Yes. It's a stalemate for now but Kate has some answers and will bide her time until she can get her own justice. Now she and Castle can have some fun…until the Dragon wakes up again.

C. Orlando is a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. Follow her on Twitter.

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I think Martha immediately knew that Kate was in the closet. She's been around the block a few times and this was not rocket science. Castle looked guilty and KB's presence had to be felt. Marlowe and Crew continue to amaze me with each new episode. The premiere was everything I could possibly want. Love the roundtables!!!

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Favorite scene? The elevator. My wife does that to me...and I know what that means!
Keep relationship secret? HELL no! Well, for a couple episodes, but that's it. Someone mentioned "90210" -- Amen.
Who figures it out first? Given the huge hint he just got, Esposito.
Espo forgiving Ryan? In real life, guys would hug it out. Once he figures out Beckett doesn't care, Javi will begrudgingly let it go.
Happy with Kate's mother's murder storyline? Once again, HELL no! Tired of it already. Let's move on to Castle's father...

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1. Favorite scenes: The opening scene; love that they are finally opening up to each other. And yeah, when Castle hugs Kate when she says the line about never being safe. That was such a powerful scene for what it says about where these two are at now.
2. Keeping the relationship a secret; for now. As others have mentioned there is a lot of comedic gold to be mined here. Any one of their friends/family could be the first to figure out, as other posters have stated, there are valid reasons for any of them to be the first.
3. Rysposito---yeah, that one is going to take some time to heal. Espo feels very betrayed by what Ryan did. Don't know what it's going to take to get them back on track, but as mentioned, good to see this being played out and not glossed over and fixed up in one episode.
4. The JB case: Good forward progress while still leaving room for further story. So glad to have Castle back! And very happy with Caskett relationship. I think its going to add a great new dynamic to the show.

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"After the Storm" was nothing short of magic! In SO many ways! The intimacy Rick & Kate share, and are now able to show, is swoon-worthy! And, I think I might cry when Espo and Ryan make up. The way that all the characters care for and love one another is heart-warming!
I love that the round tables for our epic show will continue throughout the season!! They are always so much fun to read, and Christine is always such a lovely hostess!
THANK YOU TV FANATIC for showing such devotion to our BELOVED CASTLE! :)

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Joyful - you are right 100% Lanie's nose is a great tool in forensics - insightful on your part plus, being a great friend & a woman she can get close enough to tell. Where was Lanie? I am sure everybody missed her...I know I did. Tremendous asset to the show and wonderful person.

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I for one am disappointed to see the relationship between the two main characters be expanded and radically changed to a full-blown romance. I always enjoyed the sexual tension-type relationship and now it is all sexual relief. Now that the anticipation is all over, what else is there. Many a good show has gone down the drain by giving in to temptation to have a full romance relationship between the costars. Too bad..

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I LOVED it when they fell out of bed!! LMAO...the entire episode was fabulous. I think they should keep it a secret for one or two episodes but not too long. I think Ryan will get critically injured and it will bring Esposito running to his side.... I actually think it would be hilarious if Alexis found out about their relationship first...oh so many comedic scenes could be done for that one!

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Best Scene-Kate and Rick hug...when she said she'd never be safe. 1st to find out- I am hoping for Lanie. I hope the only keep it a secret for 3 or 4 episodes. As for Ryan and Espo...I think in Episode 6, when Rick is the lead suspect in a murder investigation. Will they become partners/friends again. All in All the episode was Perfect. Romance,Comedy and Drama....all the reason we love Castle!!

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I have to ask, in the most respectful way I can think of, if my perception of the morning after is correct. In a previous episode Kate stated to Richard "she was not a virgin" (during a scene when she was upset at him).. We know she is not prudish & has had man friends. I also know for a fact some women choose not to "go all the way" even though other "activities" of a very intimate nature take place. Could she have not "gone all the way" because she was saving that step for her "one man" as her unique gift to him? Rick's comment: "I HAD NO IDEA..." shocked/pleased expression & Kate's "EVEN DURING THE PART...?" then facing shyly away & having her hair cover her "blushing" cheeks...Kate"DID YOU LIKE THE PART WHEN...?" Richard"YES, I SPECIALLY LIKED THAT PART..." Castle fans, I think the writers have again surprised & amazed us...Did anybody else get somewhat of the same impression?

Joyeful

P.S. Sorry about the bold...

Castle Season 5 Episode 1 Quotes

The fact is that I admire your loyalty and hope you can feel that way for me someday.

Gates

That's going to leave a nasty scar. Every time you see it, think of me.

Beckett

Castle Season 5 Episode 1 Music

  Song Artist
Song All I Could Think About Was You Robert Duncan
Song I Just Want You (remixed) Robert Duncan
Song Countdown Robert Duncan