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NCIS Round Table: "Damned If You Do"

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Our NCIS review broke down "Damned If You Do," this week's season finale, in detail.

Now, TV Fanatic staff members Steve Marsi, Douglas Wolfe and Christine Orlando have assembled for our weekly Round Table Q&A discussion of various events and topics from this installment.

Join in as we analyze this season-ending, entertaining hour of TV's #1 show!

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1. How would you describe this week in one word (or two, or three, or four)?

Doug: Together in separation.

Christine: Walk away.

Steve: Unconventional.

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2. What was your favorite quote or scene from "Damned If You Do?"

Doug: I actually laughed out loud when Franks started shooting the fish. The grin on Gibbs' face was pretty cool to see too. 

Christine: Admiral AJ Chegwidden! As a fan of JAG, the show NCIS spun off from, I was positively giddy when he walked in as Gibbs attorney. These two are kindred spirits. Heck, "AJ" even stands for Albert Jethro! I really hope we get to see more of him next season.

Steve: The JAG callback was great. I also enjoyed the log cabin scenes (was that what he was building throughout NCIS Season 10?) and Gibbs torching Mike's files - another callback to years past. Oh, and Delilah?!

3. What was the most frustrating unanswered question?

Doug: How the heck does an irradiated severed head, the NCIS troubles with Parsons, and the death of Kazmi all relate to each other? When Tom Morrow gave his explanation to Vance, and Vance nodded as if he understood, all I could think was "the operation was a success; the patient died."

Christine: There were so many, some of which Doug covered but for me it was what happens to Tony, Ziva, and Tim. They said they admitted to their own actions. Will Parsons file charges against them even though they've quit? And even if he didn't, what's next and how do we get them back?

Steve: How does the severed head tie into the case? And how can Ziva, Tim and Tony admit responsibility and resign, then still get their jobs back down the line?

4. What should Jimmy and Breena name their baby?

Doug: Jimmy has so much love and respect for his mentor that I can see him wanting to name his child Donald. If it's a girl he might want to name her after his mother Eunice.

Christine: Doug took my only thought. I know they're adopting but can't you just picture a little Jimmy running around with glasses? He'll make a sweet father.

Steve: Donald does seem like the obvious choice. But Timothy or Abigail would also be cute ...

5. Tony and Ziva: Forever in the friend zone?

Doug: Certainly seems that way doesn't it? That horrific kiss on the forehead from Tony to Ziva would certainly seems to seal the deal. Expect a lot of hints and innuendo in this coming year. World's worst foreplay.

Christine: Seriously, if I never hear the word Tiva again I would be very happy. What a waste. As a fan of these two characters I feel completely jerked around. Once again the show teased a payoff for this couple and then never followed through. I wish they'd just give them both steady outside love interest and be done with it.

Steve: Maybe naively, I thought they were going to kiss for real there at the end. Then Tony got friend zoned, and I think that window closed. I don't know what lies ahead in NCIS Season 11, but this felt like a turning point to me, and maybe it's for the best.

6. The plot to thwart Parsons: Satisfying or underwhelming?

Doug: Underwhelming. Convenient. Almost lazy. But for all of that - its redemption lies in the fact that it's incomplete: Gibbs is not off of the hook. The investigation into his behavior is postponed, not cancelled. I think that's a good thing too: I want to see the irritating sleaze artist come back to gnaw at the team's underparts in the next season.

Christine: Eh. Kind of underwhelming considering all of the build up. It felt like there should have been more to the fight.

Steve: It was a little of both. Underwhelming for the reasons Doug and Christine said, but satisfying in that it wasn't an easy out. Parsons wasn't undone by a hidden skeleton, and lived to fight another day. He caused the resignation of three NCIS agents, and it took a major hierarchical effort to get Gibbs out of this one - and he isn't even out of it yet. No one can say there weren't consequences or that this scandal was swept under the rug.

7. Where is Gibbs and what is he up to?

Doug: Many have suggested that he didn't shoot Tobias. I'm open to the possibility that he did. My guess is that there's a rabid mole within the alphabet soup hierarchy of the various services, and maybe Tobias is one of them. When Tom Morrow ruled out Iran and North Korea, all we were left with was home-grown terrorists or (worse) internal spies. My guess is that someone from high up has recognized his unique black op skills and wanted him to clean up the mess. As for where - I think he's on home soil.

Christine: I'm assuming he shot whoever Tobias was protecting, whomever stepped out of that car. To what end is anyone's guess.

Steve: If the implication was that the CIA took out Kazmi to cause international hysteria and allow the U.S to focus on the real threat, so to speak, then that could well be a mole hunt. Something that would definitely qualify as a black ops mission for Gibbs. He did not look surprised to see Fornell in the crosshairs, yet he did hestitate before taking what would have been a clear shot. If Tobias isn't the target, is he working with Gibbs or in the dark about the fate that awaits whomever is in the car with him? And who is the injured man with Gibbs?! So many questions.

8. There have now been 10 NCIS season finales! Which was your favorite and why?

Doug: So far, I think the NCIS Season 9 finale was the best. Having someone bomb the NCIS building while Ducky had a heart attack on the beach certainly seems to trump any of the other seasons for me. Fans scrambled to see if David McCallum's contract was renewed. And we got to see Ziva and Tony trapped in an elevator - making the fans wonder once again just what activity they would have to do to keep themselves occupied until help arrived. The writers of NCIS are the absolute masters of The Big Tease.  

Christine: Nothing has ever beaten the Season 2 finale where Caitlin Todd was killed. It was so shocking and heartbreaking that it's always stood with me.

Steve: Hard to argue with Christine. That one still gives you the chills today if you catch it on USA! But after seeing Mike Franks again this week, I couldn't help but recall his funeral in the NCIS Season 8 finale, when Gibbs' woodworking was unveiled on his coffin. That was pretty awesome.

What's your take on these issues of the week on NCIS? Discuss below!

Steve Marsi is the Managing Editor of TV Fanatic. Follow him on Google+ or email him here.

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My daughter and I thought it would be cool for NCIS and Criminal Minds to hook up for an episode. Very big fans of both shows. Just imagine Abbey and Garcia working together...

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I for one will miss Ziva as I think she was a great part of N.C.I.S. for (8) years ** If she must go may success go with her ** May Dr. Jeanne return or let Catherine Bell step in to draw on Tony's interest ** Last that I hope is a great # 11 season **

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i always loved mike franks, im sorry he isnt on anymore, i dont see tobias being any kind of spy, and i dont believe gibbs would kill him for his job or anything, i think its all some kind of set up, not sure of who knows what yet, the guy thats hurt and gibbs trys to help towards the end is the guy called wayne i think, hes one of them that tells parsons gibbs was sent on assignment, i agree that gibbs special job is on american soil. im sort of hoping that gibbs and the others are planning to bring down all these big wigs, like cia, etc that think that they are all above the law and can get away with anything but yet they go killing others without a second thought. maybe gibbs doesnt always do things by the book, but like with the killing of that guy that bombed the ncis base, sec nav said they all had the presidents ok to do whatever it took to get him, so now they go after gibbs because someone is jealous, i would like to see all those others after gibbs try to do onepercent of what gibbs does, that would be laughable.
i love this show as do all of you, i think that this show portrays the way our political people are really like. margaret

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Per TV Guide, NCIS #1 show for the 2012-13 season, even outranking Sunday Night Football. I love this show!

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they need to bring some closer to jag they left the ending wide open they need to let us know who left the military and who did not it would be AWESOME if they brought back Catherine bell

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Amen @Kim Hampton! Thank you, thank you. I keep posting the actual numbers too only to be told that I am using a pro Tiva website to get my numbers. I did not realize that TV Guide magazine was pro Tiva. Thank you for supporting what I have been posting, too. But I am afraid that we will never convince some people of the truth.

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sorry...got cut off.... No matter how you look at it, 18 is still greater than 11; 20 is still greater than 13. And 'The Voice' is NOT giving NCIS a run for its money.

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To paraphrase Jon Stewart....
Since when is 11.8 anywhere near 18.3? Last time I looked 18.3 is 6.5 more than 11.8. If you're going to compare shows, could you at least compare shows that are in direct competition with NCIS? Dancing With The Stars has their big show on Monday, not Tuesday. And the Tuesday Dancing is in direct competition with NCIS:Los Angeles, not the original NCIS. So again, going straight by the numbers....
According to the Nielsen ratings, for the week of April 29-May 5.....
-18.3 million households watched NCIS live...if you add in the DVR 3-day that number goes up to 20.8 million
-11.8 million households watched The Voice live (in direct competition to NCIS)...if you add in the DVR 3-day the number goes up to 13.2 million For the week of May 13-19....
-18.8 million households watched NCIS live...if you add in the DVR 3-day that number goes up to 21.4 million
-The Voice didn't even crack the top 10 No matter how you look at it, 18 is still greater than 11. 20 is still greater than 13. And The Voice is NOT giving NCIS a run for its money.

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So, @Michael, are you just going to keep on making stuff up every time that you are proven wrong about something else?!? How many television shows are you going to bring up. And if you want to talk about DRAMAS, NCIS is still the number one drama-nothing else comes close. @Kim Hampton, thank you for your numbers. I always appreciate it when someone can prove their point in a calm and reasonable manner. Too bad that not every one can be this way.

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Not just the voice but dancing with the star is also giving NCIS a run for it money

NCIS Season 10 Episode 24 Quotes

Morrow: There's a connection between the death of that Navy Seal and what's happening with your team.
Vance: What kind of connection?
Morrow: The murder of Eli David opened a political can of worms that was much bigger than anyone expected.
Vance: Eli and Arash Kazmi wanted to forget a peace. But Bodnar killing them opened the door.
Morrow: Homeland and the CIA wait for chances like this, to stir the pot. Distract governments so that all sorts of recon can happen. The CIA needed Iran to believe Mossad was responsible.
Vance: Are you telling me that Bodnar didn't kill Kazmi?
Morrow: I'm telling you we did it, Leon. The CIA took out Kazmi that night so that Bodnar would end up being the fall guy. Iran and Israel could duke it out while we focused on the real threat. We're all so damned worried about Iran and North Korea when the real threat is here, on home soil.
Vance: It's a shell game isn't it? Keep people distracted.
Morrow: Leon you see why I wanted you to keep your distance?

Vance: Tom Morrow may have a solve. We pull it off this could all go away.
Gibbs: For all of us?
Vance: Clean slate.
Gibbs: What's the catch?
Vance: It might kill you.
Gibbs: So could a bag of clams.
Vance: [laughs] We sure picked one hell of a career didn't we Gibbs?
Gibbs: Got to make a living Leon.

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