NCIS Round Table: "Devil's Triad"

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Our review of "Devil's Triad" broke down last week's NCIS Season 11 Episode 10 in detail.

Now, TV Fanatic staff members Steve Marsi, Douglas Wolfe and Christine Orlando have assembled for a Round Table Q&A discussion of various events and topics from the installment.

Join in as we analyze the return of Fornell and Diane, plus more from TV's #1 show ...


1. Describe the episode in two words (or three, or four).

Doug: The Dichotomy of Diane.

Christine: Welcome to the Family.

Steve: "Devil's Triad." For once, I can't top the actual title!

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2. Favorite quote or scene from "Devil's Triad"?

Doug: I literally laughed out loud when Fornell deadpanned "he's got a bigger chest than Diane."

Christine: I loved it when Bishop warned Tony that Gibbs was coming up behind him. It showed what a new era it is at NCIS like nothing else could.

Steve: Fornell's reaction staring at the guys while still in his bathrobe was pretty priceless. Also, any reference to being shot in the "caboose" is pure gold.

3. What, if anything, didn't work for you?

Doug: I really disliked Abby blurting out the details of Diane's sex tweets, and then suddenly realizing Diane, Fornell and Gibbs were all standing right there. It was too obvious, and it was consequently distracting. No way is she that stupid.

Christine: I have to agree with Doug on this one. Not only were Fornell and Diane about 15 feet away but so was their daughter. The scene made Abby look like an airhead which was annoying because she isn't.

Steve: The aforementioned Abby comment, and the ways in which Diane keeps being brought back seem a little far-fetched ... though they do result in some funny episodes so how much can you really complain?

4. Did give Gibbs give Tobias and Diane his blessing? Should he?

Doug: I picture him saying "FINE. You've got my blessing, but only if you'll leave my house right now."

Christine: Yes. I think he did. As weird as it may be, the three of them are all friends... sort of. And I think in the end Gibbs just wants to see his friends happy... and out of his house.

Steve: Probably. Diane and Fornell have a beautiful daughter, and while they are also divorced, one gets the impression she and Gibbs left things on terms nowhere near as positive. So as weird as it is, if they're happy, how can he not support it (begrudgingly)?

5. If CBS made a Gibbs-Fornell-Diane spinoff, what would you title it?

Doug: "Skivvies" Tobias and the Sex Life of Federal Agents. It also works as the name for a heavy metal rock group.

Christine: I'm not the biggest fan of Diane but I'd love a Gibbs-Fornell spinoff. But if we have to go with all three then maybe NCIS: Days of Our Wives.

Steve: NCIS: Three's Company?

6. Who was the team MVP for the week's case?

Doug: I think that honor should go to Gibbs. He not only repressed his repulsion (time after time) when Fornell and Diane sought his help for their relationship, but he managed to lead the team in solving the case of the week. Not only that but he showed what true leadership is, by considering an alternative method for getting to the root of the case, and allowing his teammate's proposal to go forward, instead of his own. Plus, he provided some much-needed stability for Emily at a time when she was losing her mind over her parents.

Christine: I first I wanted to say Bishop for finding Emily but really the MVP was Gibbs. The man was there for everyone, even when it got weird. Fornell, Diane, their daughter plus he allowed new teammate Bishop to find her footing in her own way. Plus, Gibbs is played by Mark Harmon whom I can't get enough of.

Steve: Gibbs with an assist to Bishop and Emily.

7. Do you like Bishop so far, and how she's fitting in?

Doug: I like her very much. I enjoy her personality: her quirkiness, and her tendency toward a quick laugh. Some have noted that her regurgitating stuff from an autopsy handbook - plus knowing the number of pages in it - seemed unrealistic. My thought is that she's either autistic or has eidetic memory - or both. We need an explanation about this, and I'm sure the writers will provide one eventually. I especially enjoyed this episode, and her non-confrontational manner of talking with Gibbs about the plan for tracking Eddie. Her abrupt reaction was completely innocent, and Gibbs saw that. This scene highlighted two things: one, that her analytical ability is something she takes for granted, and two that Gibbs intuitively seems to understand her method and way of thinking. He appreciates it, and will make good use of it - which to my mind is the mark of a true leader.

Christine: Yes, I really do. She's completely different. She wants to fit in but on her own terms and I like how easily she's bonding with the boys. I look forward to seeing more of her.

Steve: I understand some people are upset that she "replaced" Ziva, but it wasn't like the show went to fix what isn't broken. Cote de Pablo left and Emily Wickersham was cast as a character who has breathed fresh life into the team so far. She's nothing like them and at least so far, it's hard for me not to like her and consider the casting a success, especially under the circumstances.

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NCIS has hit season 11 and it still in the 19+ millions in viewer's so CBS will not be worried. NCIS LA hit 17+. I am looking to forward to NCIS New Orleans although all of this looks like the CSI model. Those viewer figures are down to Glasberge and I have no complaints about him because he gave me what I wanted for a very long time.


I think the issue about the cases not being good goes back to what was happen towards season 5 where the start started to focus way too much on the characters. I think one of the reason people like season 1 and 2 was because there was a balance between the case and character development, the case of the week were base on real events. Now their just in the background while we learn something pointless about a character.

@ Michael

I agree with you Michael. I think there was better balance between plot, humor, and character in the earlier years. While I still am a loyal fan and cannot imagine a time I won't be, this ep was an excellent example of veering into slapstick. It's a slippery slope that too easily turns character in caricature.

@ Michael

Totally agree w/Michael. In seasons 1 and 2, the cases were well thought out and the guest stars, although generally not big name stars, were well drawn and interesting. Small, subtle little reveals were made about team members that left a lot to the imagination, which was clever and fun. Once Shane Brennan took over we got weak cases and team members issues were spelled out with the subtlety of a sledge hammer over and over and over - especially depressing Gibbs and wonder/tragic Ziva. Their stories became repetitive and boring because we had way too many of them. Every other team member became caricatures of their former selves and supporting cast to Gibbs and Ziva's big melodramas. So far I've been pretty happy with this season. I just hope that the writers don't back track and turn Ellie into the only regularly featured player along with Gibbs, and that Ellie's character will be subtly revealed to us without all the overt drama..

@ Patircia

Ellie's character will be subtly revealed to us? I think she has already been bashed over our heads as it is.


Douglas, forgiveness. I did not offend anyone. But I read a lot about NCIS and I said this is not an opinion but a fact. Most reviews I read complain of cases, but repeat what Glasberg speaks about the characters. But the cases are not good, NCIS is not well. Actually I seek the revisions, the debates on the internet, I'm trying to feel differently about the show. I want to believe that my feeling about the show is inappropriate, but honestly that's not what has happened. That's all I meant. Did not mean to call you parrot. What I can not be realizing and accepting is that the program is suffering wear, wear and tear that has been happening for a long time. Audience does not always mean quality. And that quality that caught my attention on NCIS point I want to watch all week I no longer understand more. Excuse me again.

@ Fay

Actually audience does at least imply some quality, don't start insulting us next. What wins awards, I generally find to be crap. I'm not a hick, I'm highly educated and I like what I like. In trying to please all GG seems to please no one most of the time, but it is the business. HE has to go out and promote the show. The media asks the questions. He delivers what he can without giving away the whole bag of tricks. NCIS provides something a lot of shows can't, a loyal audience thats not waiting for the next bedroom scene, gruesome murder or sexual violence to occur. Oh and they can at least paint a part of our government in a good light

@ Fay

No apologies required, Fay. (But thank you for your comment). I respect your opinion. I just wanted to make it clear to that our reviews and opinions are completely independent of industry influence. We do not function as representatives of Gary Glasberg or any writer/producer. Thanks for understanding.


el show no es el mismo sin Ziva,su personaje engancho el rating de la serie ...aunque todos digan lo contrario....hace falta ziva todavia y ya vamos llegando al episodio creen?


I thought it was a fun, funny episode. And the Ellie Bishop character is a breath of fresh air. She is so completely different from both Kate and Ziva and that's a very good thing. She still kicks butt, she simply uses her brain not her brawn. I also love how she doesn't cower before the almighty Gibbs, very refreshing. And I love that she's happy.
After spending how many years watching one over blown, over the top, dark and depressing drama fest centered around the eternal victim that was ziva, after another, happy is a good thing.
I am a very happy NCIS fan. And I am also sorry you had to get sucked into the conspiracy theory laden, propaganda mess that is the bring back cote campaign.


I kind of agree that these reviews tend to regurgitate a lot of GG's talking points. It seems like the reviewers are veerrry careful not to criticize certain things and consistently praise (or ignore) the same characters and actors. I'm not a viewer who is looking to dislike Ellie Bishop and hope that she turns out to be a good fit, but her wonder skills unfortunately reminded me of her predecessor's outrageously exaggerated skill sets. Why can't they write another Kate? You know a realistic female character, instead of an overdone wonder Barbie whose is obviously written to appeal to a very young and naïve viewer? I really hope that they tone Ellie down and if they don't, I hope that reviewers will have the courage to point it out.


I notice that people who praise the show just repeat what Gary Glasberg says in his interviews. But none of that is what I feel when I see the show and it has for a long time. The stirred that were giving us characters have not been for the better and this has nothing to do with the output of Ziva. It is the same wear time. I dunno, just know that NCIS is not the same and is not changing for the better, it otherwise.

@ Fay

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Just so we're clear: your claim is that anyone who praises the show is merely repeating Gary Glasberg's thoughts, and those who don't are unique individuals who think for themselves? That's unfair and untrue to at least a count of one. Certainly, my opinions are based upon my own thoughts. I don't parrot anyone else's opinion.


Beat last year around this time when we found out Ziva sleep with Tony father

@ Michael

This is the second time you have written this inane comment. Ziva never slept with Tony's father. We all get you hate Cote and Ziva. But your lies are really annoying. I don't even think you watch this show, you just put out stupid remarks.


I almost gave up on NCIS because of Cote fan making death threats trying to kill Michael Weathlery babys and then we found out Cote wanted Michael and Mark off the show and almost got it I was done then she Quit and it was like christmas came early. Now we have Bishop a real smart and good looking female WE WON got NCIS back

@ Michael

No one made death threats to MW or his family. You got that from a stupid picture MW posted himself on Twitter of two smiling girls in bikini's holding fake machine guns- all tongue in cheek. Stop making such horrible statements and passing them off as truth.

@ Michael

Quit spreading lies. Cote did not want Mark and Michael off the show. You are delusional. Cote is not responsible for whatever made up threats her supposed
fans make. That would be like
saying Jodie Foster was
responsible for the attack on
President Reagan. And for your
411, Michael is still very good
friends with Cote so deal with it
and move on please.

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NCIS Season 11 Episode 10 Quotes

Bishop: I mean, I might have a better idea. Look, Eddie is coming back. If he was ditching his car, there are easier places to abandon it than at an airport. We should put it back and watch it. And when he comes to pick it up----
Gibbs: We grab him.
Bishop: Absolutely not. We follow him, see what he does, where he goes, then we grab him.
Gibbs: Works for me.

Diane: You guys are buddies now?
Gibbs: Yeah. We were thinking of starting a club.
Diane: Yeah? Well watch it, boys. I know something about each and every one of you, that you don't want anybody else to know. And I got a Twitter account.