George R.R. Martin Addresses Game of Thrones Rape Scene

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While HBO viewers were abuzz about Game of Thrones Season 4 Episode 2 due to the concluding scene of Joffrey being poisoned to death, a very different kind of scene grabbed their attention on Game of Thrones Season 4 Episode 3:

Jaime raped Cersei.

Yes, she eventually seemed to get into the dastardly act with her brother.

But there can be no denying that Jaime forced himself on Cersei alongside the corpse of their dead son, an event that was depicted as consensual in George R.R. Martin's novel.

Sort of Mourning Joffrey

On the comments section of his blog, Martin has now replied to the controversial change made by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss.

"I think the 'butterfly effect' that I have spoken of so often was at work here,” Martin writes. “In the novels, Jaime is not present at Joffrey's death, and indeed, Cersei has been fearful that he is dead himself, that she has lost both the son and the father/ lover/ brother.

"And then suddenly Jaime is there before her. Maimed and changed, but Jaime nonetheless. Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her."

So that's how the books set it up. But Jaime has been back for weeks on the TV series when Joffrey finally gets his.

"The setting is the same, but neither character is in the same place as in the books, which may be why Dan & David played the sept out differently," Martin added. "But that's just my surmise; we never discussed this scene, to the best of my recollection."

The beloved author concluded:

"Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.

"If the show had retained some of Cersei's dialogue from the books, it might have left a somewhat different impression - but that dialogue was very much shaped by the circumstances of the books, delivered by a woman who is seeing her lover again for the first time after a long while apart during which she feared he was dead. I am not sure it would have worked with the new timeline.

"That's really all I can say on this issue. The scene was always intended to be disturbing… but I do regret if it has disturbed people for the wrong reasons."

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Ok I rewatched the scene and it actually was 50-50... I am never one to condone rape, but Cersei kissed him back, embraced him etc. And that was between the stops and waits and not heres. Which makes it even more disturbing. Now, people are funny, coz the amount of bad things, horrible things, that happen in GOT, why the buzz ? Is it because it is the first time that a rape actually happens ? Sansa almost got gang raped....Oh well, buzz away then.


@Lee, The only "fans" he will antagonize are the book reader fans, and the only people for whom he can lose credibility are the same people, because we the non-book readers (and there are many of us), did not know that it had happened differently. So if you are saying they will antagonize the fans you are really just speaking about yourselves (which is very selfish, by the way). And to say that Martin is covering his own ass is presumptuous. It could also be that he doesn't want a conflict with the producers and maybe he did not see when they filmed that particular scene. Do you think he sits there every minute of every day looking at every scene? He is an old man you know, plus he is still writing. And on another note, WE do not all know who is responsible for Joffrey's death. IF it was CLEARLY said in the last ep, then maybe I missed it, because I have not read anywhere (although I am trying to avoid most of the GoT sites), where it was clearly stated who killed Joffrey. If it was not stated in the show, then I do not want to know until it is said, IN THE SHOW. Gosh YOU book readers are giving me headaches.


Im a reader, so i did read the sexual scene in the Sept
Its not a Violation, the sick bastard twins just love gore xD


ill be honest I have only a feeling of loathing for the character cersei, however I do not condone any person being a victim of rape or sexual assault. furthermore I think George r r martin is just trying to cover his own ass by saying he does not recall having a discussion over the scene. I mean how important is the fact that his books are portrayed accurately on tv to him then? besides shows like scandal and walking dead, GOT definitely has the biggest fan base and is one of the most talked about shows. makes me wonder if they did decide to change the scene it must have been done to garner sensation and people talking for what purpose I don't know because the show is already highly rated. I think the more they antagonize the fans of the show by changing the story, the more show will lose its credibility. case and point we all know who is responsible for joffrey's wonderful death, so why now all the speculation that it could be someone else...

@ lee

It wasnt violation, it was foreplay