Conrad: If your father was still alive, and you had the chance to save him with this clinical trial, but he didn't fit the criteria by a small number, would you make the same call you did for Carol?
Devon: I spent all day trying to convince myself that it was okay to let her into this trial.But I know that if I do, she'll likely end up on dialysis, kidneys failed, fluid in her lungs will make her feel like she's drowning.
Conrad: But what if she makes it through?
Devon: I don't see that happening. Carol is brave. She wants to help the science, but if I bend the rules to let her in or sacrifice, it won't even do that. I am not going to torture an old, immunocompromised woman, she's already been through enough, I'm not going to do it.