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Michael, Michael, Michael -- if you think that the end of Season 6 made our government look bad, then the FBI, CIA, State Department, Justice Department and the like running interference for Ari even after he killed Kate makes them look downright stupid. Or treasonous.
Or maybe none of the above, as this show is a piece of fiction. And there are far greater things out there capable of making our government and its institutions look bad than one little old TV show.
Michael, at 51 I am a little old to be a kid. But as you get so many other things wrong, I can see how you could get confused over something like that.
As for files she gave Ari -- sorry son, but that's a far cry from helping load a gun or supply ammunition, etc., etc. Ultimate bottom line is that the show is never going to go along with you on this imaginary storyline you have going. Because that's exactly where it is located at -- in your imagination. But hey, sounds like it would make a great fanfic. Maybe you should devote some time to writing it.
@Mat Your opinion son. I think I have done pretty damn well compared to you and Michael.
@reality check Har har, hardee har har.
The reason why the fans and some of the actors have not gotten over it is because it make NCIS and our goverment look bad
@SAM and Michael: Get a room.
It's amazing how some people still can't let the end of Season 6/beginning of Season 7 go. We're going into Season 10, we've moved on, the Team has moved on & the show has moved on, so why can't some people do that? I'm a Tony & Ziva fan but guess what, I don't watch the show just for them, I watch for each & every character, just like a lot of other NCIS fans, because this show is all about the characters & how they interact w/ each other. I'm looking forward to seeing how things play out this season for each character as they'll be dealing with the ramifications of the bombing.
You know that goes both ways right sam you have yet to show fact to your bull shit as well
SAM SAM SAM You are one miss up little kid
if you watch the end of season 6 and the start of season 7 after they save Ziva then you would of Know that she admit to helping Ari kill kate by giving Ari files and with help from Jenny a way into NCIS but since your too busy with your Tiva blinds you most likely were to busy taken Ziva cloths off since that what most Tiva fans want.
@SAM love reading your comments. They are so refreshing after reading so much nonsense from Michael.
@sam love your comments they make sense
Sorry Michael, it takes more than you telling me I'm wrong to make me wrong. It takes proof and you don't have that. You may think you do, but just because you think you do doesn't make it so.
Michael, if Ziva is responsible for Kate's death, then so is Tobias Fornell and the rest of the FBI, most likely the CIA, the State Department, the Justice Department, the Bush Administration, Mossad and the entire Israeli government. Perhaps the Clinton Administration too. All of these people, all of these groups ran interference for Ari at one time or another, especially after Gibbs and his team's first encounter with him. Go back to "Reveille" and Gibbs' conversation with Tobias towards the end of it, where he is listing all of the people who want Gibbs to lay off Ari. And they continue to tell him that during "Twilight" and afterwards as well. You and others seem to be suggesting a conspiracy along the lines of Oliver Sotne's theories on JFK's assassination. Most likely Oswald acted alone, and Ari for damn sure acted on his own in killing Kate.
That where your wrong sam
Not sure if you can read the rest of my remarks or not -- was saying that they shared space and time together in "Jetlag", she encouraged him to do the right and kind thing in "Faith", and took great pride and joy in his doing so -- for every snarky thing they said to one another, they said nice things and words of encouragement as well. In short, it was a "mixed bag" of a season, just like all of the rest.
As for "Legends Part 1 & 2" and "Aliyah", so much time and effort has been spent on the events in those episodes that it seems pointless to go over it yet again, especially when the show has made clear that they have forgiven each other for the things that they said and did to one another. You may not like that and you may think that they should have handled it differently, but they didn't. And they are not going to go back and reverse what they did either. You don't have to like it, you don't even have to accept it. What you do have to acknowledge is that what's done
Michael, it looks as though others have pretty much countered the episodes you put forward as being the ones containing the lines you mentioned yesterday. "Agent Afloat" -- for whatever you thought was in it that showed Ziva saying something nasty to Tony, there are several instances where it is clear she misses him a lot and is anxious to see him again, to the point of fixing her hair in such a way that I suspect Tony really likes (with plenty of waves and curles in it). She shows great worry and concern for him the entire time, and it is pretty obvious he missed her, hence his having the bikini pictures of her hanging in his living space/area.
Not sure exactly what episode you are talking about in regards to the FBI agent Tony seemed to be showing an interest in -- I can see it in my mind's eye -- if you can come up with the title, I'll comment on it. As for Ziva insulting Tony during all of Season 7 -- hmmmm, let's see, apologizing and giving him a kiss in "Reunion", sharing
@Michael- I love how you keep saying that Ziva helped Ari kill Kate when she had nothing to do with it. It was all Ari's plan. Ziva really did believe Ari when he said that he didn't kill Kate. I don't understand how you can blame Ziva for Kate's death. Yes, she did lie about her actual orders, but when time starts to pass you will end up leaving things in the past. I'm sure she didn't wake up every morning asking herself if she has ever lied to someone. Now who is this person that you said Ziva killed on her way to see Gibbs and what episode was it?
Your so blind did you forget Ziva Help Kill Kate and lie about it to gibbs for five years and did you forget that guy Ziva murder on the way up to see gibbs
@Michael- In Agent Afloat Ziva clearly missed Tony and wanted to know how he was after Jenny's death. In Legend Tony was snooping around and Ziva was pissed off about it. Maybe if you understood human emotions you could understand how people can become angry over an invasion of privacy even if the person that is invading their privacy has a right to do so. I think Tony had a right. In Aliyah Tony had just killed someone she cared about. How could you blame someone for getting emotional and angry after their friend has killed their boyfriend? In season 7 I don't recall Ziva hating Tony and telling him that he is worthless. They actually fixed their broken friendship. You're only supporting my theory that you hear what you want to. I'm partially sorry if that came off as insulting.
I agree with you 100%.
As long as the cases stay interesting and the team work together to take down the bad guys does it really matter if tiva get together or not
This "TIVA" argument is getting to be more ridiculous than the bygone "Huddy" debate, but with less bloodshed. Some of you need to get out of the house and walk it off.
Ziva To Tony
"Orders are Orders you may not like them that why their call Orders"
From this episode its pretty obvious they missed each other. Ziva asks how he is doing after the whole Jenny thing shows she is concerned about him. Didnt hear her call him a loser, better off dead or question his abilities as an agent.
Just finished watching Agent Afloat. Here are all the horrible, abusive things she said either to Tony or about him.
McGee: It’s gonna be tough.
Ziva: You think it’s hard for us. Image what it feels like to be him.
McGee: Who him?
Ziva: Tony! We’re all here and he’s stuck on that ship.
McGee: Not Tony. I meant…
Ziva: Completely alone, away from all those who care about him. (pauses) Wait? You weren’t talking about Tony?
It is obvious Ziva misses Tony when Gibbs announces he is going to MTAC to talk to Tony Ziva literally runs into Gibbs while follwing him to MTAC.
Ziva: You seem, um…different.
Tony: Taller? Hotter?
Tony: Well, it’s been over four months.
Ziva: You still beating yourself up over Jenny?
Tony: Not as much as I used to.
Tony: Not as much as I used to.
Ziva: You could have called.
From this episode its pretty obvious they missed each other. Ziva asks how he is doing after the who
@Aycliffe - agree with your post. I'm tired of lone wolf vigilante Gibbs on yet another vendetta featuring - him. However, if Gibbs does don his super underwear and a cape, I fully expect Wonder Ziva to be dressed similarly by his side. She is the other unrealistically and utterly predictable dispenser of super skills and justice. The rest of them might as well just have bit L's written on their foreheads when its time for the danger scene and the can of whupass is brought out.
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