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Elementary Round Table: "Child Predator"

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Another Thursday, another strong episode of Elementary.

In the latest edition of the TV Fanatic Round Table, staff members Carissa Pavlica and Jim Garner are joined by Amanda from Grizzlybomb.com and Brian from Geek Magazine, to analyze "Child Predator." Won't you join them?

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What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Carissa: My first thought was the shirtless scene, because it's so refreshing to see a nice manly chest on television. But that's not what readers want to hear. So I'll go for the intelligent answer. Because I have a personal stake in the issue, it was when Sherlock used the word "myriad" properly in a sentence. I squealed. Hey, it's the little things, right?

Amanda: I have no shame, I'm going with the shirtless scene. Not only was he shirtless, but also entertaining as well. I am wondering when Sherlock Holmes ran a marathon, can't say I ever thought he was the type. Or did he get a tattoo to express his love for Rule 26.2 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure concerning producing a witness statement? 'Tis a mystery.

Jim: Dang it Amanda, Carissa, I have to agree with you, about the shirtless scene BUT for a different reason. Seeing the tattoos they chose for Sherlock gives us a glimpse into the character, did you notice the Scorpio tattoo. Did you know Miller is a Scorpio?

Brian: Can I say none? Extremely lazy episode. Just one more in a long line of examples where CBS is more concerned with sticking to formula than exploring character. Adam's transformation is too easily accepted and Sherlock really isn't highlighted here.

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Did you figure out Adam Kempler had become the "Balloon Man?"
Carissa: As soon as he was found in the van. I think running from the police gave it away, especially because he was alone. I'm also an incredible cynic and usually think the worst first until convinced otherwise, so that's to be expected of a nut job like me.

Amanda: Yeah, right away. I've watched enough Criminal Minds and NCIS to spot that trick from a mile out.

Jim: Yep, much like watching Ed Norton in Primal Fear, seeing Adam slip out of "frightened victim" to "cool mastermind" was expected. Don't get me wrong, he did it well.

Brian: As soon as they showed the birthmark on his neck early on I suspected. The broken window is what sealed it.

Who do you think makes a better sounding board for Holmes, Angus the bust or Watson the doctor?
Carissa: Watson is proving herself more useful all the time, and even Sherlock begrudgingly admits it. I think he even brought the bust out just to make her laugh. 

Amanda: Watson. Sherlock needs someone to push back. He may put up the front that he doesn't but I think that wall is starting to crumble just a wee bit.

Jim: Well, as Holmes pointed out, he favors Watson, so I will say her. Of course there are days she has about as many reactions as Angus.

Brian: Let's call it a tie. Liu's Watson has been six kinds of useless so far. Her constant nagging about his health and sobriety are eating at me, if she doesn't become an asset soon this show won't last long enough to develop into anything.

Will we see Adam again?
Carissa: Since he's going to prison for a while, I doubt it. Not any time soon.

Amanda: If there is another child abduction case I suppose maybe, but no I think he's a one and done.

Jim: If he is being setup as a Jr. Nemesis, then we might. Otherwise, he's off to jail for good!

Brian: This will all depend on ratings. They are clearly setting him up to appear again, it's all gonna rest on how long the show lasts. I would expect him to return either at the end of Season 2, or somewhere in the middle of Season 3. It also will depend on when they decide to bring in Moriarty.

What is your trick for staying awake when you need to?
Carissa: Wine. Coffee tends to put me asleep, and wine wakes me up. Like I said, nut job. 

Amanda: Well I could say coffee or exercise (ha! it's so not exercise) but it's actually the nasty habit of smoking. Tobacco keeps me awake like nothing else. A late night drive? Roll down the window, grab a cigarette and you can drive until the cows come home.

Jim: Wow, smoking and drinking so far, eh? Well I don't do either. For me it's crunchy snacks. If I need to stay awake, chomping on some Cheetos or potato chips will keep my mind alert. It's a trick I learned for long car drives I used to make every week.

Brian: Staying awake is never the issue. My dilemma is getting up in the morning...

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    They didn't 'choose' the tattoos. They're all Johnny Lee Miller's OWN tattoos. He usually has to have them covered up with make-up, but the writers of Elementary decided to write them into the story-line.

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    I don't know what it means but Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, covered the first Olympics in which the marathon was 26.2 miles for The Daily Mail of London and wrote, “I caught a glimpse of the haggard, yellow face, the glazed, expressionless eyes, the long, black hair streaked across the brow.” When talking of the pastry chef who won the race. The race was supposed to be 26 miles but they had the runners enter on the opposite side of the stadium so that the royal family would have a better view.

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    Hello I also noticed the 26.2 and it eventually brought me here I think if you look at the history of the marathon the battle of marathon this saved Greeks from destruction and set the playing field for the later famous battle of the 300 Spartans and it seems all the super elite love them some spartians and love to put hidden symbolizim in all the tv shows they controll .

    Strawberry-fields

    Favourite scene - Holmes throwing a knife at Adam's immunity deal.

    Adam = Balloon Man. Yeah, I was sure after they found the recording. But I have to say Johnny Simmons pulled off a pretty good Aaron Stampler-like character.

    Better sounding board for Holmes - Watson obviously, but Angus was a nice touch.

    Will we see Adam again? Not any time soon, but if the show lasts long enough... who knows?

    My trick for staying awake - splashing cold water all over my face. It never fails me.

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    I'm just not connecting with Holmes, he seems rather bland. I love the BBC version and even though Holmes in that one is so rude and abrasive and odd I get a sense of his inner life. JLM is a fine actor but so far I've gotten nothing from him except a contempt for his father. He just seems too unconnected for me. And I'm not liking Watson as a female. I think the dynamics of two men is more interesting. It adds another layer of difference because they are two males. With Watson portrayed by a female you already have a difference and, to me, that undermines the fundamental difference in their temperament, thought process and character.

    Dr-kronner

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    What troubles me most is how eager everyone is to look past the show's flaws because of their desire to like it. You're not upset that I'm being unfair, it's that I'm being harshly blunt.

    When CBS took it upon themselves to modify the character (direct result of the BBC's success) they had 2 choices - A cash grab, resembling every other show on the network & sticking to their 'Paint By Number' formula, or to truly embrace the character the way that the BBC has and give us something new. As NBC proved when they had to cancel PRIME SUSPECT though, people don't really want great cop shows on Network.

    I recognize the need for a slow burn as it's a long season, & while the 2nd episode wasn't great, I thought they took a step in the right direction with character development. This week they took 2 steps back. I don't hate the show, I just want it to be better.

    My 3 fellow writers here all enjoy the show, isn't that enough? If we all agreed on everything it wouldn't make for a very interesting round table...

    Dr-kronner

    Cheerio: thank you & I take no offense

    I make no attempt to hide my contempt for CBS, & I freely admit that I don't like how predictable & formulaic all their shows are. But after the pilot I've tried to stop drawing comparisons to the BBC show. This is about a show cashing in on the name of a classic character & being absent the soul the makes said character unique. I'm trying to like the show cause I like the cast & I'm a huge fan of the books, but right now it feels more like THE MENTALIST than Sherlock Holmes.

    Look at your own comment, the nicest thing you can muster about the show is: "I don't think it's really as bad as you make it out to be" Not the most ringing endorsement. Why are we so will to settle for mediocre television when there are so many great shows on? Not even talking about HBO, look at MAD MEN, JUSTIFIED, BREAKING BAD, AMERICAN HORROR STORY - they all show us that it can be done better, but we settle for the easy instead.

    What troubles me most is how eager everyone is to look past the show's flaws because of their desire to like it. You're not upset that I'm being unfair, it's that I'm being harshly blunt.

    When CBS took it upon themselves to modify the character (direct result of the BBC's success) they had 2 choices - A cash grab, resembling every other show on the network & sticking to their 'Paint By Number' formula, or to truly embrace the character the way that the BBC has and give us something new. As NBC proved when they had to cancel PRIME SUSPECT though, people don't really want great cop shows on Network.

    I recognize the need for a slow burn as it's a long season, & while the 2nd episode wasn't great, I thought they took a step in the right direction with character development. This week they took 2 steps back. I don't hate the show, I just want it to be better.

    My 3 fellow writers here all enjoy the show, isn't that enough? If we all agreed on everything it wouldn't make for a very interesting round table...

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    Interesting thing about the tattoos -- the one on the right side of JLM's back says Sister Mother Father Brother. Leaves me hoping that, at some point, they can play off of that to bring us a female version of Mycroft!

    Keith-vlasak

    The tattoos fit right in with how Miller is portraying Holmes (and as Mr. Garner points out, I believe the producers, creative forces, are on board -- like, if they didn't want Miller, they could have gotten someone else). Miller's fine -- but I'm waiting to see what the whole concept does (not sure the writing does Holmes credit -- like knowing that a particular store puts the prices on the cap isn't deduction), since they have great ratings to be around long enough to fix any problems they perceive (or don't fix them if they fail to perceive any). I, personally, would like to see more fun!

    Jimg

    Keep in mind that the producers could cover or alter any of Miller's ink if they want.. so anything we see on camera, they want us to see (regardless of if it's real or fake). :)




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