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NCIS Round Table: "Shabbat Shalom"

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Our NCIS review broke down "Shabbat Shalom," this week's episode of TV's #1 show, in detail.

Now, TV Fanatic staff members Steve Marsi, Douglas Wolfe and Eric Hochberger have assembled for our weekly Round Table Q&A discussion of various events and topics from this powerful installment.

Join in as we analyze the return (and demise) of Eli, Vance's loss, and what comes next ...

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1. Describe this episode in one word (or two, or three, or four).

Steve: Powerful and unexpected.

Doug: Brilliant and heartbreaking.

Eric: Still in shock.

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2. Best episode of NCIS Season 10 so far?

Steve: With a show like this, "best" can mean so many things. The balance of episodes varies so much in terms of weightiness and symbolism, humor and continuity, although almost all of them are excellent. I will say I haven't been this shaken up by an installment since Season 8's memorable "Swan Song."

Doug: I've been wracking my brain trying to remember a better one. This one even surpasses the last episode of Season 9 and the first of Season 10, when NCIS was bombed.

Eric: I agree with Steve and Doug. Definitely the most powerful of this season and up there with Mike's death and a few other episodes in terms of making you lie awake thinking about it afterwards.

3. Favorite quotes or scenes from "Shabbat Shalom"?

Steve: Ziva screaming "Abba" and bawling was enough to give anyone the chills, as was Gibbs standing stone-faced and ignoring the SecNav's calls. These scenes are enhanced by the fact that we're so invested in these characters after 10 seasons. Overall, I could answer the entire episode. Superb TV entertainment, but also emblematic of the uncertain times we live in.

Doug: It's a three-way toss up: Ziva's agony over the death of her father was heartbreaking. The scene with Tony and Gibbs standing sentinel at the hospital waiting room was, I think, the best scene cinematically. So stark, and filled with such tension. I rewound it and watched it again. And finally, the dead look in Vance's eyes as he answer's Gibbs' question. "She's dead. My wife is dead, Gibbs."

Eric: This Round Table and the comments on Doug's review will be dominated, justifiably, with reactions to the shooting. So I'll give a humorous mention to the old photos and undercover guises. Not sure if the soul patch really works on Michael Weatherly, however Cote does make a cute pregnant person, am I wrong?

4. The twice-fatal conclusion: Did you see it coming?

Steve: You had to get the sense something would happen to Eli. One of the most targeted men in the world giving everyone the slip is a recipe for disaster. Shalom can mean "hello" and "goodbye," and next week's episode title "Shiva," refers to the Hebrew mourning period. Nevertheless, I wasn't sure if he'd actually die, and was stunned that Jackie Vance became collateral damage of his mission.

Doug: Some of our commenters took a cue from the tearful scene in the car when Eli asked Ziva to join him across from the table "one last time," and guessed that he would die. I didn't. I had no idea that either he or Jackie - or that anyone actually - would be killed.

Eric: Sadly, after the secret meeting with Vance, Gibbs, Eli and his Iranian counterpart, I did. I half expected it to take place then. Jackie's key role in the episode made me fear the worst for her as well, though I was still quite surprised to be proven correct in this hunch. Part of me can't believe the writers went there.

5. Does NCIS rely too heavily on character deaths?

Steve: I've thought a lot about this. At times it seems that way, then again, such episodes are the best in the show's history. The storylines are multi-layered, altering the fabric of the characters and the show, and not done solely for shock value. It's sad that Palmer is basically the only one with a family outside of NCIS now, however this is also somewhat realistic in this line of work.

Doug: I've read that criticism in a few places, but vehemently disagree with it. I was actually surprised that Ducky made it through his drama alive at the start of Season 10. No, the writers of NCIS are very careful in who they kill off, and there is always a compelling story and reason when they do. These deaths will have an effect, on both Ziva and Leon Vance. We already know, from the promo for next week, that Ziva will be after vengeance. I can't even imagine Vance as subdued or even acting in a professional by-the-book manner after his wife's death.

Eric: Sometimes, I wish they wouldn't do this. Jackie in particular felt unnecessary to kill off. However, as Steve said, there's no denying the collective brilliance of the cast and writers last night and in similar episodes. So, I guess we have to trust them and see where they take this next week and beyond.

6. Best acting performance of the night?

Steve: Rocky Carroll's face at the end said it all. Truly awesome work.

Doug: Cote de Pablo, hands down. She nailed it with full commitment.

Eric: Rocky and Cote were both amazing. The latter deserves Emmy consideration for this effort I'd say. But in the interest of offering a different answer, Michael Nouri delivered a great, convincing final performance as Eli, and Mark Harmon's stoic brilliance was also a sight to behold.

7. Who do you think was behind the shooting?

Steve: Eli's list of enemies is a mile long, and his supposed Iranian "friend" is certainly an option, being that he knew his whereabouts. That may be too obvious, however. An inside job by Mossad? A rogue Palestinian operative? What I'm almost more intrigued by can be summed up in one word: Revenge. Will it fall on Gibbs, a man who took matters into his own hands under similar circumstances, to rein in Ziva and Leon as they seek payback?

Doug: My guess is Mossad commissioned it. Logically, it's the only thing that would keep Iran and Israel from going to war. If Iran was behind it, then all bets would be off. Also, there's the fact that, before he died, the assassin said "I did not expect you to come after me, rather than checking on your father." So whoever made the decision probably knows them intimately.

Eric: That's the million-dollar question going forward, and almost an afterthought following the end of "Shabbat Shalom." I can't even venture a guess, but you know there will be dire ramifications.

What's your take on these issues of the week on NCIS? Discuss below!

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The actress who played Jackie Vance is now acting on 1600 Penn.

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First, definitely a shock. Secondly, I don't think Ziva believed her father could die; that's why she went after the shooter first. Third, the shooter must not have known them intimately enough to realize they were on the outs. Finally, I think Vance must be on the way out too. He's had severe phych issues since the assassination attempt on him and Eli David, and from the guilt of the bombing at the naval base. Now with Jackie dead because of him inviting Eli to dinner, I fully expect a total breakdown.

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Given the stills that were sent out, I was expecting somebody to be killed. They were pictures of Vance's house, Rocky Carroll has signed a 2 year contract up to and including Season 11 so it wouldn't have been him. I doubted that it would be the kids, leaving Mrs Vance and/or Eli David. As for who shot them, it could well have been the Iranians, they've tried to sabotage US-Israeli relationships before (think it was the beginning of Season 4, where they framed Ziva after Gibbs retired). Vance and Ziva are two strong characters, and Gibbs' pursuing of Pedro Hernandez will pale in significance to the revenge of those two.

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Mrs Vance was not wishing for a normal life she was does not like Ziva father because of the last time they meet

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@carol ignore michael he is put here to disrespect NCIS he is not a fan and yes they deserve an emmy and one day they will get one.

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I can not understand why Paula Newsome was murdered on the series. Unless, Rocky Carroll will also leave as Director Vance to now raise his children in a more secured desk job in Washington, DC. Out of the danger and to give his children a normal lifestyle that his wife was wishing for in her final scenes with her husband before the Davids arrived for the final dinner. Is it time for another Director? I understood Ziva's father death if it had to be in order to move the story forward. Considering all that he was responsible for through the storyline years (which included his friendship, and the first meeting with Vance as a young entering spy.). And yes, it is a wonder as to the cast no receiving to date an award for best show year in and year out. That too makes no sense. At least a People's Choice Award since it is oblvious

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I can not understand why Paula Newsome was murdered on the series. Unless, Rocky Carroll will also leave as Director Vance to now raise his children in a more sevure desk job in Washington, DC. Out of the danger and to give his children a normal lifestyle his wife was wishing for in her final scenes with her husband before the Davids arrived for the final dinner

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@Michael If you think that NCIS is not good enough for an Emmy, why do you bother watching it? To me they deserve that award, Peoples Choice and Golden Globes too.

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Why does NCIS need a Emmy anyways their not that good

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This episode was amazing. Cote was amazing and I am sorry to see the end of Eli David. It always amazes me the the best shows on TV never get awards, but thank goodness we have 10 years with them. I await SHIVA with baited breath....

NCIS Season 10 Episode 11 Quotes

Leon Vance: So. We'll still have the house to ourselves after dinner right?
Jackie Vance: You had your shot, baby.

Leroy Gibbs: Leon?
Leon Vance: She's dead. My wife is dead, Gibbs.

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